Google’s legal counsel swears on a stack of bibles: “We are not in cahoots with the NSA”

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Ever since allegations first emerged that Google and a host of other tech giants were providing data on their users to the National Security Agency, there has been a race to see who can be the most transparent about this story. Google appears to be in the lead — even going so far as to file a lawsuit claiming that forcing the company not to disclose FISA court orders is a breach of the First Amendement. On Wednesday, it stepped up the campaign by offering chief legal officer David Drummond up for a live Q&A hosted by the Guardian.

One of the first questions got straight to the point: a user named KhakiSuit asked whether Google’s show of transparency wasn’t just “a face-saving exercise,” given that the company was only protesting the FISA court orders (which it wasn’t even allowed to mention until recently) after it had been shown to be “in cahoots with the NSA.” Drummond’s response:

Drummond Q&A NSA

In case you haven’t been following the case (there’s an overview post here if you need to catch up), one of the most contentious issues has been what kind of access Google and other companies have provided to the NSA in order to comply with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The original stories from the Guardian and the Washington Post quoted NSA documents leaked by former CIA staffer Edward Snowden saying the PRISM program provided “direct access” to company servers.

Subsequent reports from the Post and elsewhere have modified this description somewhat (although the way these updates have been handled by the Guardian and the Post has not been to everyone’s liking), and a piece in the New York Times that quoted sources at several of the tech companies mentioned said that they provided a kind of “dropbox” or “mailbox” to which the government had the key. But Drummond denied any such system was in place.

Google: “We’re not in the business of lying”

Charles Arthur, the Guardian‘s technology editor, asked whether Google had ever pushed to be able to disclose FISA orders before the NSA leaks were published, and if not why not. Drummond didn’t specifically answer the question, except to say that Google has “long pushed for transparency” and was the first company to file a public “transparency report” on the requests for data that it gets from governments.

After promising another commenter that Google is “not in the business of lying” and is “absolutely telling the truth about all of this,” Drummond also responded to a question about how users can have trust in cloud-based services when governments have the ability to collect data as it passes through switches and other internet infrastructure. The Google lawyer said the U.S. and other countries need to agree on rules related to data collection and need to “give close scrutiny to any laws that give governments increased power to sift through user data.”

Finally, another commenter asked Google’s chief counsel how the company was going to “renew user faith in the security of your services” in light of the revelations about the NSA and PRISM, and said that rhetoric about transparency wasn’t really helping. But Drummond wasn’t having any of it:

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Whether the Google lawyer’s protests will change anyone’s mind remains to be seen, but at least Drummond was willing to take on some questions in a public forum (although the Guardian noted that Google chose which questions to answer). And it’s fairly obvious why they would do so — because doubts about privacy of information in the cloud could hit the web giant right where it lives, as the company acknowledged in its First Amendment lawsuit.

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