Steve Confirms It: No Mac App Store

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The desire to have a dedicated app store for the sale of Mac OS X software has been around for some time now. In fact, ever since the iPhone’s application store opened its doors back in 2008, Apple (s aapl) fans have been calling out for something similar for the desktop. However, if a recent email from Steve Jobs himself is anything to go by, OS X users won’t be seeing anything of the sort anytime soon.

According to MacStories Fernando Valente, a Mac software developer, emailed the Apple CEO questioning him on whether or not such a service would become a reality. After the email was sent, Valente, like many others, was not expecting a response. But much to his surprise only a few hours after sending it, he received one. The email from Steve Jobs was brief and to the point, simply stating that “nope,” no such service is on the way.

Fernando’s email was sent following last week’s widespread rumor that such a service was on the way. The rumor hinted that the speculated Mac App store would follow the same principles as the current iTunes store, with a strict approval process also in place.

However, Steve’s typically candid response has finally set the record straight, no doubt to the dismay of some, but to the delight of others. There will be no Mac App Store. At least not in the foreseeable future.

Would you like to see a Mac specific app store selling approved OS X software? Let us know in the comments.

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Karl Salisbury

Fuck no. A dedicated mac app store is a horrible idea. It would allow apple to veto third party software they don’t deem appropriate.

It’s stupid and unnecessary.

Tyler

I, like Gerogut, use an application called Bodega. It acts like an app store and has a surprising amount of applications available through it. It even offers updates for applications.

http://appbodega.com/

Louis Wheeler

“I can’t think of any reason that I would want or use a Mac app store. I can think of several reasons why I would Not want such an arrangement.”

That is your choice, Ed Wood. Other people may disagree. This would be both buyers and developers.

“The app store has thousands of Apps and no index or classification system, which makes finding an app by function almost impossible.”

The Apps store has 200 thousand apps and you can search it. People wouldn’t have downloaded 2 billion apps if they couldn’t find anything that they want.

“I want to select my apps myself without Apple’s censorship based on a set of rules made to be broken.”

Rules broken by whom, Ed? Developers? Who needs developers who will break the rules. The App store has no shortage of developers.

Is it censorship when a merchant decides what products he will sell? No, it is called discriminating in the customer’s interest. It is forcing the suppliers to deliver quality goods.

“If I buy an app from the developer, he gets the whole price without Apple taking a 30% bite”

Yes, he gets the whole price minus the marketing costs which are often much higher than 30%. Plenty of developers like the App store because they can concentrate on writing code rather than trying to sell it. If you think that Best Buy doesn’t demand a 35% markup, then you are foolish.

Ed Wood

I can’t think of any reason that I would want or use a Mac app store. I can think of several reasons why I would Not want such an arrangement.

The app store has thousands of Apps and no index or classification system, which makes finding an app by function almost impossible.

I want to select my apps myself without Apple’s censorship
based on a set of rules made to be broken.

If I buy an app from the developer, he gets the whole price without Apple taking a 30% bite

piminnowcheez

This whole rumor was so very, very stupid. Its origin was a notorious anti-Apple crank who was basically making shit up. It never had any credibility to begin with.

Louis Wheeler

You are setting yourself up for failure. You are probably reading too much into Steve Jobs reply. The problem is that the question was flawed; it asked for more than one item. Steve Jobs could say “Nope” if any of its contentions were untrue. Steve Jobs has often mislead people with his statements, because what he says is in some sense true, but not the whole truth. His comments are said in a way which does not betray Apple’s plans or marketing.

When Steve was asked about Apple making an e-reader, he said, “People don’t read any more.” This mislead people into believing that Apple was uninterested in e-readers. When he was asked about the possibility of Apple making a mobile phone, Steve talked disparagingly about how bad the Smart Phone market was. People concluded that Apple was uninterested in phones. I have been burnt several times by Steve’s comments, so I tend to discount them in a literal sense.

Steve Jobs reply could also mean that an Application store could be in the offing, but it is not exclusive and, hence, no certificates restrict the use of applications on the Mac. Therefor, you will be able to buy applications from many sources, including a Mac Application store.

Apple, in North Carolina, is building the largest data center in the world. It’s going to used for something. Even downloads for the iPhone and iPad could not use all 500 thousand square feet.

Apple has shown that it has had big plans since 1997. Don’t assume that you know what they are.

cptwinder

I would LOVE a simple, single place to find software. However, like many others, I would hate for Apple to control what I can and can not run on my desktops/servers. I’m willing to give them that control on my iPhone and iPad and neither of those devices are intended to be full general computing platforms.

Vasilis

The need of the mac app store is only to boost the market of the mac apps…. so it would be nice a third party store… maybe 2 or three stores for better competiotion

Trevor Newsome

This is a big shame, this would in my opinion be a bit money earner for Apple. There are millions of good hobby programmers that have a lot of good ideas and skills that would contribute and get some reward for their efforts.

guest

Horrendous reporting. Post the full email. It’s definitely not as clear on this point as you lead your readers to believe.

David

This Apple developer has NOT been calling out for something similar for the desktop. Are you crazy? Why would we give up complete freedom on a great platform for arbitrary, mysterious acceptance rules? iPad and iPhone development is hostile enough, thanks.

There is no consensus (among developers, anyway) for a Mac OS X app store.

“I actually wouldn’t mind a Mac app store ALONG with being able to download off the web. I’d love to pay for OS X software with my iTunes account and help the developers at the same time.”

Caution. SLIPPERY. SLOPE.

Jessica

I wouldn’t mind one as long as it in no way tries to keep anyone from downloading applications in the traditional way, from each maker’s site. As long as they aren’t trying to block that process, I think an OS X app store might be nice for those users who aren’t that web-savvy, like my grandmother. Personally, I don’t need it, but I can see how it would be a good move in general. I’d only worry a little that the temptation would be strong to start restricting downloads of software from other sources…

hmurchison

Astute point. “Nope” may be a denial of the “only run signed apps” approach. It does not necessarily mean that an Apple ran store is not a feasible idea. The iTunes store has millions of credit card backed accounts. Apple already has the facility set up to provide updates, special promotions and more. The only thing they’d need to do is perhaps allow for demos software to be download or at least defer that to the developers site.

I see few limitation in having a “relatively” open Mac application store. Really it’s just the next logical extension to the now moribund Apple Downloads section on apple.com

John

The question asks if the Mac App Store will prevent users from installing software without authorization. Steve answered “Nope.” He made no comment about the App Store itself. Not confirmed either way.

Geoffrey Foster

Okay looking at the actual question asked in the email: “There’s a rumor saying there will be a Mac App Store and no software without authorization from Apple will run on Mac OS X. Is this true?”

The response of “Nope” seems (at least to me) to answer the question of software on Mac OS X requiring authorization from Apple to run, not that there won’t be a Mac App Store

Teslanaut

I actually wouldn’t mind a Mac app store ALONG with being able to download off the web. I’d love to pay for OS X software with my iTunes account and help the developers at the same time.

That is something I’m really looking for.

Hanna

I would like a Mac app store, if it wasn’t controlled by Apple. It’d be really convenient to find all apps in one place. However, some of my favorite apps are used to mod the operating system. I feel like Apple would try to keep those off the market.

Mr. Future

Hi there. This is Mr. Future coming to you from October 20th where SJ just announced the Mac App Store.

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