YouTube Responds to Court Order News

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Appropriately enough, YouTube chose Independence Day to release a response to the court order it received yesterday to hand over user information to Viacom as part the media giant’s ongoing $1 billion lawsuit against the video sharing service. Here’s an excerpt from the YouTube blog:

As you may have seen in the news, YouTube received a court order to produce viewing data from our database, including usernames and IP addresses. In order to protect our community’s privacy, we strongly opposed this motion when Viacom and others filed it.

The court felt differently and ordered us to produce the data. Viacom said that they need general viewing information to determine the proportion of views on YouTube of copyright infringing content vs. non-infringing content.

Of course, we have to follow legal process. But since IP addresses and usernames aren’t necessary to determine general viewing practices, our lawyers have asked their lawyers to let us remove that information before we hand over the data they’re seeking.

Well, I’m sure if they ask nicely

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Poison

Sure, they can pull all the copyrighted material off Youtube… But, it’ll just come back next week.

YOU CANNOT WIN THIS BATTLE. STFU AND STOP WASTING YOUR TIME VIACOM.

As if you don’t make millions of dollars of revenue already. Some 13 year old uploads 2 and a half minutes of a TV show…. OH NO! THE SKY IS FALLING.

FCK OFF.

juggarnaut

Kumar, the “lay of the land” is changing. You can’t put the technology genie back in the bottle. Whether I’m for or against this matter is irrelevant. Free speech will flow. It will be in many ways at the expense of the professional media workers and their corporations, at least those who fail to more effectively serve the audience. As for viacom vs google. Google provides many valuable services that I enjoy and actually need. I cannot say the same for Viacom. Regardless, my personal preference is irrelevant.

I know its annoying, but things are changing and the best thing that the producers can do is adapt to the new landscape.

The stakes are high.

We’ve got people who want to restrict free publishing of anything and everything.
members:
Disney, Viacom, etc. – copyright holders
communist and totalitarian regimes
Nations and organizations that restrict free religious speech
the political correctness crowd

We’ve also got others that want publishing to be wide open and unrestricted.
members:
google and other net service companies
evangelical christians throughout the world
the government of Denmark
child pornography trafficers
software pirates
people that just want to access “out of print” otherwise unavailable media

I’m sure that most people will find things they like and don’t like on both “teams” above. Weather you tend to prefer one side or the other depends on your priories. If you are a media producer you will most likely be on the first “team”. If bringing the world to know Jesus is your thing you will likely lean towards the second. (maybe). Your advocacy is a personal thing.

No matter what “team” you are on, I strongly recommend that you recognize that it is becoming harder and harder to restrict the free flow of information and adjust your career to make the best of it. Like surfing, you can really go a long way if you ride the wave rather than try to fight it. On a personal note, I hope you find a good wave and ride it well.

The point that I am trying to make is that the google vs viacom conflict is actually a subordinate fight to the free speech vs controlled speech conflict. Although Viacom may be right legally and ethically, they are wrong when it comes to their causing resistance to free speech. Having corporations or governments reviewing what media viewers access would have a silencing effect on what is expressed & viewed.

Hope you find a good wave and can go far with it.

Kumar

Juggernaut – no one is trying to stop you from uploading your boring personal videos on the web, so go on and upload all the videos for which you hold copyright. No one may watch them ever, but at least your free speech is protected. But you can not argue that someone else, in this case Viacom, should not object when pirates put Viacom’s properties up on the web without their permission. Will you sit and watch if someone takes valuables from your home and puts them up on eBay? I also know lot of artists from India whose works are put up on YouTube with impunity leading to loss of revenue and liveihood. These artists feel helpless since they are being asked to police the entire web and ask for takedowns. Imagine what if they have to do that for every radio station which may broadcast their work without permission and royalty. YouTube/Google is not a champion of free speech. They are as much of a big business as any and are making use of morons such as yourself to protect them. Remember Google’s market cap and cash are many times that of Viacom. Who are you kidding?
Mediaworker is 100% right. As for “Thomas” and “anna” – you both sound like master pirates.

juggarnaut

Who’s the Moron here, mediaworker? Free speech is unstoppable. You can say what you want and so can I and so should everyone else who is alive. Now that’s a right worth fighting for, even dying for. It is much more significant than copyright.

It is unfortunate that it is more difficult for people who make media to get big $$$$ for it but they might want to make stuff that is good enough that the consumer actually appreciates it and wants to make a gift. I buy media from people who carefully produce it and I don’t share it because I care about the producers. I know them personally. I don’t know big media personally nor do I care about them. They don’t care about me, in fact quite the opposite. They are just filling up the cable/satellite bandwidth with lots of crap I don’t want and would rather not pay for anyway. Besides, people should create media because they have something important to express that they want others to understand, not just to get paid for it. The best media is free because it comes from the heart of the producer. It may be more “cheesy” than commercial stuff but it is more genuine.

On the technical side, if the lawyers get too thick and the lawsuits get to extreme, expression can be done on a DARKNET which preserves privacy and thus protects the publisher. Encryption and other kinds of anonymising technology can create free speech in China and preserve it in the “free” world as well.

It is not a matter of for or against media producers, its about who get to be the producers. I say it should be everyone. Ideas must flow, and flow they shall.

mediaworker

This is just the beginning of the end for YouTube and every socialnet of copyright infringing content (which includes all you morons commenting on the side of youtube) – long overdue. So all you freaks commenting here – have your fill – before they find you chicken shits for uploading (stealing) creative works of those who toil to produce them.

juggarnaut

Wanna hit Viacom hard where it hurts?

Call up your cable/satellite TV provider and DISCONNECT all Viacom networks or the whole service if that is what it takes. It will put more $ in your pocket too.

If you must watch TV, Get it from free over the air sources with an antenna. You’ve still got ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, & PBS. They are going Digital too. If you feel you absolutely MUST have more, you may want to consider getting therapy. TV is fiction. The real world is what matters.

Get your Information from other sources like reputable web sites, good books, and friends and family. If you have something to express these three sources can also be channels.

Television is a 20th century dinosaur. ( Unless you have complete control of what is on, the TV is your enemy)

The Third Troll

Somebody hand Viacom over to the Starship Enterprise so Nurse Chappel can give Sumner his night meds?

Youtube4life

Kumar,you’re a POS.

Why they ruin everything that’s good and young people like…bastards.

YOUTUBE rulez.

anna

Kumar you are a bastard. Get a f*****g life you worthless POS. Viacom is going on a sleazy fishing expedition just so they can pad their salaries that much more and screw over some poor college kid, take his savings, and act just as petty and frivolus as the MPAA.
Our government has real things to worry about like getting are armed forces home in one piece or dealing with the price of oil. Fuck Viacom and their waste of TAXPAYERS money in court costs that only benifit them.

juggarnaut

Viacommunists beware.

There’s a google more people who love YouTube than love Viacom. (exaggerating a small bit there. )

We (those who demand free speech) will ultimately overcome.

Resistance is futile.

Time, Human Spirit, & Technology are your enemy.

Be afraid.

genecaper

and on appeal we will all feel safer. government will put us in the clink for desiring a bit of privacy. good luck u-tube.

Thomas

Kumar,

Get a Life you Corporate Shill!

Go Google and Youtube!!!!

Kumar

It is time the courts and legislatures put an end to the shady business practices pioneered by YouTube and copied by countless other web sites. The safe harbor provisions must be scarpped too and everyone taking part in distributing copyrighted content illegaly without the rights holders’ permission must be punished.

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