Verizon FiOS goes 50 Mbps

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Under competitive pressure from local cable competitors like Cablevision, Verizon is fighting speed with speed. The company just announced that it is now offering connection speeds of up to 50 Mbps (megabits per second) downstream and 5 Mbps upstream over its FiOS network.

The previous top speed was 30 Mbps/5Mbps, on the high end. In the medium tier, Verizon upped the speed from 15 Mbps downstream and 2 Mbps upstream to 20/5 Mbps, and the top-tier service was increased from 30/5 Mbps to 50/5 Mbps.

The higher speeds were available in New York, Connecticut and New Jersey previously. Massachusetts and Rhode Island were added to the list recently. Verizon had 522,000 FiOS Internet customers across 16 states at the end of the third quarter of 2006.

Though the company did not announce any more specifics, one has to note that the high end service is expensive, like really expensive. The 30 Mbps service costs $179 a month. There was some talk that this service is going to cost $90 a month, but not sure what price Verizon is offering. In comparison, Cablevision’s 30 Mbps service is a third of that price.

Pssst.. hey Verizon, guys at HK Broadband are selling these kind of speeds for like $20 bucks a month. Come on, how about cutting us all a deal here?

Photo via Flickr by Aschmitt

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Gunpwdr

It used to be that you’d pay at least $150 for the local loop on a T1 in the late 90’s… never mind the ISP fees. Bandwidth is cheap everywhere now, and Verizon’s backbone has plenty of capacity (so far) to support it. I have no complaints with FIOS – bomb-proof latency, no outages, maxed throughput on downloads to giganews, what more could one ask for?

John Thacker

By your argument, every major city in the Northeast should have 100 Mbps broadband for < $50, yet not a single one does.

It’s not, for example, the case that all of Japan has fiber. Fiber is only in Tokyo and downtown Osaka (which have a population density higher than the cities in the Northeast.)

Japan actually has a lower percentage of people with broadband than the US; fantastic speeds available in Tokyo, yes, but the inaka really is a backwater.

John Thacker

The 30 Mbps service costs $179 a month.

That’s somehow technically the national price, but everywhere I’ve ever looked it’s cheaper than that. It does depend somewhat on the area; if there’s any sort of competition it’s cheaper. In Fairfax, VA it’s $55/month for the 30 Mbps connection.

Jesse Kopelman

Epobirs, the problem with your argument is that even the places in the US that do have high extremely high population density do not have especially low priced broadband. By your argument, every major city in the Northeast should have 100 Mbps broadband for < $50, yet not a single one does.

paul

anybody in ny,nj,ct is crazy if they go with verizon fios. 180 dollars for 30mbps down/5 up is crazy.. even for 50down / 5 up .. cablevision has boost which costs a MAX of $65 for 30/5 and they will be providing 50/50 for approx 200/month eventually.

Anonymous

i pay 160 for everything a that includes tv,internet, an phone, so i dont know where you get 180 bucks for 30mbps o an i got 50mbps

epobirs

Whenever people rattle off “so-and-so nation has zillion bps for the equivalent of $pocket-change a month” I remind myself that some of these places are smaller than the state where I reside and some aren’t much bigger than just the county where I live. Scale is a non-trivial issue when installing network capacity. A million users crammed cheek by jowl in a square million like Hong Kong isn’t a reasonable comparison to the majority of places in the US looking for new service options.

Imagine you have two businesses that want networking infrastructure installed. One business is entirely contained with a large ten story building. The other has an equal number of users but spread out in small offices over a 500 mile radius. Which job do you expect to take longer and cost more?

Vedichymn

Of course, doesn’t help that the US has a much larger land area to cover:

Sweden:

410,934 SQ KM

Japan:

374,744 SQ KM

USA

9,161,923 SQ KM

CZ

Om,
My mistake. I (obviously) took HK to mean Hanaro (Korea) Broadband. Thanks for calling me out. CZ

ZXZ

I live in sweden and have 100 downstream and 10 up, we pay around 50$ for that.

The U.S. is a third world country when it comes to mobile phones and Internet infrastructure

Om Malik

CZ,

not to get too technical, Hong Kong based City Broadband is selling 100 meg ethernet to home for flat $25 a month. I think that is what i call seriously cheap. Hanaro is a different story.

CZ

Om,
Late getting to you but, while I liked much of your post — and the comments — on the fiber we’re offering, I threw your post-script (on HK) to a colleague here at VZ. Response: “The prices I have seen – one from a very recent Paul Budde Company analyst report – says that Hanaro’s standard offering is 51 megs for $40. We are offering 30 megs for $44 unbundled, $39 bundled. Still not on par megabyte per penny or whatever but come on. And Hanaro is not the entire market. Cable modems serve 4 million households in Korea. The speeds are slower and I can’t find anything right now on prices. But I would wager they are probably comparable to our price of about $39. Hanaro is the top of the line. Further, the Koreans have had problems with slowdowns in part due to over subscription and not enough backbone, at least that is what it appears. And while some fiber has been deployed, the US was the fastest growing fiber to the home market in the world last year according to the Fiber to the Home Council. Maybe the point is this – there is no nirvana when it comes to most markets. All markets have some good things in general a few things that could get better. That is what competition is all about. As long as there are choices, as long as prices are generally coming down and speeds are going up, as long as higher capacity networks with better upstream capacity than has ever been seen is the reality in the market, our markets are looking pretty good.” CZ

Steel

Well I think it’s funny but kinda a sham as well, I live in Northern Japan and get 1 GIGABYTE fiber connection to my house Up and Down. Now granted My router can only handle 100 mbs connection it’s still nice to have that 100 mbs Download and Upload. And here’s the kicker. I pay about 5000 yen for it.. That’s roughly 45 dollars per month. Verizon I do hope that by the time i get back to the states in a couple of years the US will have finally cought up with Japan and the rest of the Asian Market for fiber connections to the house.

Mark Pearson

The most Verizon will offer to me is 768Kb/128Kb DSL even though my line was tested to 1.5Mb/256Kb. When can we get FIOS in our area? I keep asking for it but nothing is coming to our Area.

Mark Kelly

I have FIOS and I live in NJ. I pay 39.99 which comes out to a little over 43 bucks a month for FIOS with 50mps. the cheaper 30is 29.99 a month. I don’t know where this 100+ dollar a month is coming from.

lol

I pay $40 for 30/5 from Cablevision (for a year anyway, because I switched from DirectTV). Why would I switch to Verizon when I have had nothing but crappy experiences with their DSL service?

fourmccs

Verizon is putting in FO in limited places around the country. Yet I can’t even get minimum DSL service in my area. They have told me that they have NO plans to upgrade the switch or the lines in our area. We don’t even have all the features, on our phone lines, that the rest of the country have had in the last ten years. And, No, we don’t live out in the sticks. This is typical Verizon. Go where the big money is and to heck with it’s everyday customers

T-Boneâ„¢

I have the FiOS 30/5 Mbps and I only pay $55 a month,,, depends on where you live. They had a deal for a few months where if you committed to a year you received it for $55.

Michaelb

$179? I’d drop that in a hearbeat and have the biggest smile on my face as I wrote the check for those kind of speeds. In fact, I might even consdider moving into a FIOS neighborhood for that.

My only question is if they have the backbone to support that.

Tian

Meh… when I was in Japan, I got 100mbps fibre optic (NTT BFLETS) for $50 bucks a month. I could stream HDTV and download torrents at 12megs a second. Course only with Japan’s infrastructure could you do that so cheaply.

Michael Glatz

Wow $176 only? I have a 2MB down/1MB up Satellite link that is costing me $244 a month in Thailand. But, I guess that is the price you pay to live in remote parts. But, then again working out of Thailand, I can provide offset printing at 50% over stateside or European prices.

uri

yeah you’re right, who needs 5 Mbps…

as bill gates said himself, 640 KB of RAM ought to be enough for anybody

Tom

I would gladly get Verizon Fios and their TV for 70 dollars a month as someone had just said. I sincerely hate Dishnetwork right now which is giving me bs about why I can’t cancel because i signed with third party and not them and their rates are all messed up, long story. And cable tv is over priced like corporate America. If Verizon would just get to Suburban LA area i would gladly convert my town to their service given of course it costs $70 a month for both internet and TV.

Artashes

What does an average consumer, or an avid downloader (ok, add multiplayer to that list as well) need anything above 5 Mbps for?

Hans

Exciting news… until I learned the Seattle area isn’t included in the upgrade. Hopefully Comcast will pressure Verizon to do the same up here soon.

Jesse Kopelman

Om, the real issue here is that if Verizon gave you too good an Internet connection on the cheap then what incentive would you have to buy FiOS TV? Just imagine the growth of video entertainment options on the Internet if it could be taken for granted that millions of people had a good enough connection for high quality content (streaming or download). Netflix is already making inroads into the market previously dominated by premium channels like HBO, Showtime, et al. An uncompressed DVD, 4.5 GB, could be downloaded in 30 minutes with a 20 Mbps connection! Meanwhile, 20 Mbps is also more than good enough to be streaming in high def.

Jesse Kopelman

Dave, you are sharing bandwidth somewhere. Even if you had 20/5 reserved all the way back to the CO (which you may or may not depending on where you live) you certainly don’t have 20/5 reserved at the Internet POP. That said, 20/5 for $50 is a great offer compared to Comcast and RCN of NE and I would switch if I could (live in an apartment building).

Taylor

I wish there was more competition where I lived. RR has things locked up and gets aways with charging whatever they want.

dave

90? 179? i’m in boston and 20/5 is only 49.99…that’s 20 per month lower than comcast and rcn for a dedicated hub at the home versus a shared hub on cable…

btw, verizon is very aggressive in boston right now too…they’ve been doing door to door in several suburbs as well as setting up camp outside coffee shops…their entire cable tv and internet package including 20/5 internet as well as all cable offerings (hbo roster, etc, but not sports package) is 70 per month cheaper than rcn…

Dal

Om can you use your pull and get them to speed up deployment in the Seattle area? I know a couple people who were in the early “test areas” and they said “it is” all Verizon says it’s cracked up to be. It is a good time to be alive.

-Dal

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