Vista: Do you care?

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It’s hard to escape hearing about the launch of Microsoft’s Vista operating system for business customers today — especially with Steve Ballmer calling it “the biggest launch in our company’s history.” The consumer version won’t be widely available until January. With all the delays in the Vista launch, what’s a little more wait? Anne Zelenka has some thoughts on Web Worker Daily . What do you think?

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Enthusiast

I’ll get me one. Why?
o DirectX 10
o It’s about time to upgrade my old WinXP box
o It’s a novelty

met

Atleast they caled it the biggest launch in the history of their company and not in the history of the world as Apple might have claimed :)

I’ll upgrade when I get my next laptop (which could be sometime early next year). I might get a macbook pro next depending on how leopard turns out to be.

Chas

I wish I could afford to use Vista. I buy software when I can get a good value for reasonable price. $400 -$500 is not a reasonable price. I can’t see messing with the cripple ware that passes for “versions”. I hung on to win98 until last year because I couldn’t find a Linux distro that would support my cheap old scanner. Finally “upgraded to XP only to find out my cheap old scanner is not supported in any way by either the manufacturer or XP. as far as I am concerned, as long as the OS is working and the hardware is doing the job I need it to do there is no reason to muck things up with with another “upgrade” none of my hardware will work with. Meanwhile I bought Suse. I got a DVD full of everything I need, plus whatever I can glean from the internet. I pick up a scanner sane can see and I’m good for another three or four years.

Ken Berger

I am primarily a Windows user. If you are too, then at some point in the not-too-long-after-release future, you’ll have to care.

The old OS (XP) won’t really be supported anymore, service packs will come out for vista but not xp that at some point will be critical, etc, etc.

Many IT professionals tried to stay away from XP and stick w/ windows 2000 as long as they could, and that’s how it went.

Before XP SP 2, I heard countless IT professionals and CIO’s who made the exact same arguments about 2K->XP, word for word like what’s now being predicted about XP->Vista– “bloated and will decrease system performance”.

Then XPSP2 came out and the same professionals were in even more loathe to migrate, citing inability to roll-back the ‘upgrade’, and other issues they feared. They finally acquiesced as SP2 admittedly gave major fixes in security, AND lots of software soon only worked on SP2.

verne

Vista has a ton of ease of use features, and most of the stuff formerly in the “only geeks understand it” category is now delivered in a way that will make the OS sensible to a lot more people. This took a lot of work. OSX does well in this area only because of the tiny subset of settings that you can actually modify via the GUI.

People forget how big Windows is and how entrenched. I’ve used one of the RC versions of Vista and it’s an achievement in the way it has found a fairly elegant balance between the needs of backwards compatibility and forward progress — something that Microsoft is making less necessary via .net (via its ECMA standards and the Mono project).

One of these years linux + gnome is going to eat Apple’s and Microsoft’s lunch, but we’re still a few hundred million Shuttleworth/dollars away from that outcome.

I still can’t figure out why someone doesn’t write a bunch of simple but powerful linux configuration apps using Mono’s windows.forms.

Arik Jones

Like someone said, Vista is just another ME. It buys them time for finding out how to create passionate consumers similar to those in the Apple camp. Cause lets face it, Apple beats Microsoft when it comes to picking up new customers. I would take the sales performance of Apple over Microsoft any day of the week.

Microsoft is circling in the realm of “what goes up must come down”. Its only a matter of time. Just like no one thought Ruby on Rails would be the dev. environment choice of an Amazon.com venture. Apple only has one place to go and thats up. Apple has hit rock bottom too many times to not succeed. Where Microsoft is right now is dangerous. Competition killed the cat, not market share.

Elias

yawnnn Wake me up when Leopard launches.

Anyway, I’m currently a 60% XP and 40% MacOS user, and I’m not looking forward to Vista at all.

Bubba Joe

Vista Business first is about money…or so one theory goes: Microsoft had to deliver Vista for businesses by the end of the year to meet the terms of its Software Advantage deals they pushed several years ago.

franticindustries

I will take the plunge immediately, but only because it’s the nature of my job. I wouldn’t advise the average user to switch to Vista for another 6 months.

Sean

I dont like the voting options. :) I want to vote “yawn”, but not because I am a Mac or Linux user. XP isn’t amazing by any means but it does everything I need to do just fine, and there is nothing in Vista that is interesting to me in any way.

I totally agree with Ben as well – going business first is a horrible decision. Businesses NEVER upgrade to new OS’s right away. It’s always a wait and see game. If they’re not going to have it available to consumers in time for Christmas (i.e., today), they might as well wait another 10 months and make it that much better. Vista’s original specs were compelling, especially the new file system, but it’s been stripped down more than the Optimus 103 keyboard and is now really just a joke in my opinion.

John

I’d like to get a new machine, but am afraid not enough software will be compatible with Vista. I might just get a Vista machine to play around with so I am familiar with the interface, etc… and continue to use XP until enough software has migrated to make use of Vista.

Om Malik

Okay, having been a Micrsoft Vista RC1 user, I would have no hesitation switching to Vista. Period. I think it is a might fine OS, and addresses many issues I personally had with WinXP. In fact, who knows there might a Vista in my future.

JSolo

I’ve been using Vista RTM for a couple days now and I have completely dropped my Macbook as if it was a bad habit. I’ve worked at Apple a few times and my wife still does (please don’t beat me down if you read this), but I cannot get over how functional and how beautiful Vista really is.

Bash it all you want, but it is a pretty damn good OS.

Ben Metcalfe

So I think anyone commenting on this story needs to disclose whether they are a current Microsoft user — I’ve heard a lot of people giving beef about Vista who, it turns out, are Apple users with little interest in using Microsoft products in the first place. There’s a difference between not liking Vista because to hate Microsoft and not liking Vista because you don’t feel the need to upgrade from Windows XP.

Now, I am a Windows XP user and I’m just so underwhelmed by the launch I can’t tell you. Will I be upgrading? Probably not. I’ve been offered a free copy of Vista by Microsoft, both directly and via their recent developer program over at PowerTogether.com – and I’ve decided to pass on both counts.

I can remember when Win95 came out, and the marked difference between 3.11 and 95 was massive – I’m sure it was like upgrading from OS 9 to OSX. Vista just feels, right now, like lame duck release — just like ME was.

The whizzy interface doesn’t appeal to me particularly and as a laptop user I’m not really into using up screen real estate for the sidebar. I know there’s some cool stuff in there like WPF, etc, but right now it doesn’t seem compelling.

I also think launching the business version before the consumer version is crazy. Business, esp enterprise, never migrates to new OS’s immediately and is unaffected by the seasonal timing of the release. Consumers, on the other hand, tend to buy a lot of computers for Christmas – making this the best time to launch for consumers. I’m sure there was a good reason for doing things the way around they’ve done them – but I can’t see it myself.

Brad

As a student, I really so no problem spending $5 for a copy via the ‘Microsoft Student Agreement’ to try it out. Nothing to lose, really.

Ted Avery

If I want a pretty interface while running the risk of some non functioning programs or driver problems on my favorite software I’d just use my Mac.

I see no reason to upgrade.

Randy

My activities usually lend themselves to Linux, but I still dual boot occasionally.

I’m going to buy Vista just for the improved suspend/hibernate support to make using Windows less annoying.

Jesse Kopelman

I think Microsoft made a big mistake by trying to put too much into a single release. The main feature consumers want from Vista is the new UI and they would have been happy to pay a small fee (say the cost difference between Vista Basic and Premium) to get a upgrade to XP that just provided the UI. Meanwhile, why do the corporate release first? Large corporations are very slow to upgrade their user base. I remember still using WIN98 at the office until about 2002.

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