OS X 10.5 Delayed

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Following in Redmond’s footsteps, Apple has pushed-back the release of OS X 10.5, code named Leopard. This comes just a week prior to the popular World Wide Developer’s Conference in San Francisco, where Leopard is to be the center of discussions. Can we still expect to see the Leopard’s spots? It’s too soon to tell.

So is this a case of Apple’s ingenuity catching up with them? Or the slow-down in development releases that Jobs spoke-of a couple years back? Or worse yet, is Apple falling into the tar-pits that Microsoft seems to find itself in these past decades years? Regardless of the circumstances that bring us to this sobering realization, it’s a downer to say the least.

What? You in the back row, “BS” you say? Well I never!!

All joking aside, this sort of thing will most likely never happen at Apple. Mostly because Apple doesn’t publicize ship dates until they are nearly upon us. They wrap themselves in secrecy in nearly everything they do. Sometimes it’s great for them, like for instance, in these type of situations. Other times it can bite them a bit, as tends to happen when the wild and creative rumor mills churn into motion prior to a public Apple event. The rumors generated tend to be much more than is ever realistically possible, leaving expectations far too high to be satisfied by Mr Jobs.

By this time next week I’m sure we’ll have seen a couple ‘Holy Canoli’ moments from Steve’s demonstration of Leopard. A couple tidbits that will have many of us begging to turn over $129 at Apple’s earliest convenience. (Built-in Parallels functionality anyone?) There will undoubtedly be a sprinkling of expected enhancements as well, to appease the more down-to-earth amongst us. Possibly tabbed iChat or a better Finder implementation.

Will Jobs announce a release date? Typically I’d say ‘no’ without any hesitation. But at this point in time, I offer a very possible ‘maybe’. I only waiver because of the circumstances at this point in time: Microsoft’s Vista resides in Purgatory as it pushes release date after release date. Apple’s market share momentum can’t be ignored. It’s a great time to strike with another release of OS X to really put Microsoft in the weeds, a safe distance behind. But were something awful to happen, resulting in Leopard missing a publicized release date, Apple would suffer a serious set back.

So sit back with the rest of us and see what Steve’s got to offer. We’ve got big plans for covering WWDC next week – or so I’m told – so enjoy a front row seat with us here at The Apple Blog!

41 Comments

John

I am guessing that if the OS is, in fact, delayed that it would be due to Apple focusing on iTunes and the iTV (working name) products at the moment. I wouldn’t doubt for a second that they want to concern themselves with more than just Disney’s movies before they launch their video-on-demand product, which boasts features that are actually very similar to what Bill Gates annouced in the Xbox 360 and it’s abilities to connect to a service similar to iTunes, a PC, and a soon-to-be-released portable media player. It’s another “generation” starting up this very month. We have new consoles from Sony and Nintendo trying to appeal to our tech-spending, a new MS OS, and soon a new Mac OS- and it seems like many of these companies are trying to deliver the same exact all-in-one home entertainment experience, appealing to both geeks and the casually bored… But there is nothing new under the sun. No matter who ‘wins’ this so-called technology generation, we’re still settling for the same TV and video games we all grew up with, and we’ve all grown up more than they have… One would hope.

dorian

I got to thinking that this is why Apple will not release Leopard. I actually think, that Apple believes that if they release all the feature to the public at this point, and they have to wait till Vista is released, it might turn people off by making ALL the features seem old. By keeping some of them unreleased, they keep the OS fresh. While Vista keeps getting older and older and…..

Eddie Hargreaves

Actually, 10.5 HAS been delayed. At last year’s WWDC, Jobs said “we intend to release Leopard at the end of 2006 or early 2007, right about the time Microsoft expects to release Longhorn.” Now the timeframe has moved to Spring 2007, which completely rules out November, December, January and February and opens the door for April and May, two months that wouldn’t have been considered as “early 2007”

Of course, if Vista gets delayed again from January, then the prophecy of “right about the time Microsoft expects to release Longhorn” will come true.

the_butthead

Unless I am mistaken, and I believe I am not …

Apple gained access to all published WIN32/64 API’s by/or before the tail-end of their 5 year agreement with MS. Much of Vista has been long out of the bag.

Apple can do ANYTHING with said API’s and it is my guess that Apple will.

Apple will, in some manner, incorporate said API’s into the MacOS, potentially eliminating the need for WIN OS almost entirely. Or entirely.

Most/all WIN app’s will run utterly unmodified in MacOS. Or all.

And none of this is by chance.

None.


Many will disagree.

the_butthead,
Las Vegas, NV

Josh Pigford

Nick, I think people have gotten overworked about your little joke…thanks for killing off all of our readers. :P

Clark Kent

First and last time I visit this site. Yeah your headline ploy worked…it got me to your site. But I’ll never be back. Just more worthless journalism tricks.

Moof

Your title sucks – sensationalist bulls*^#% meant for no other reason than to drive hits to this drivel.

Scrofutti

Actually, I did leave an email address. However, it seems to be having issues at the moment. I’ll expect my copy of leopard to be emailed to me as a disk image. :)

dorian

Some of the apps you mention are new, but Spotlight is in the video (see link below) you’ll see Steve typing stuff into a space and the info starts flowing in… Also, it had a built-in 3d engine made by apparently Pixar.

He shows of stuff that people would deffinetly find usefull. I think voice annotation would have not been a gimmick, I think many people would have used it, as long as PCs would have being able to play the file.

Ah, and one more thing… I can’t believe that the machine moved those windows that fast while cruising at 33mhz…

But I do see that there are some stuff they have been working on after all, and maybe they’ll let all of their claw out in Leopard…

Here’s to hope…

D.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=j02b8Fuz73A

tonio

Dorian:

NeXT had features OSX still doesn’t have. So did OS9 (e.g. tabbed finder windows, a useful Apple menu). Guess what: OSX has features NeXT didn’t have — “barely any new features” includes: DVD Player, iChat AV, QuickTime (not new to Mac OS, but new to NeXT), Quartz Extreme … oh AppleScript, iLife, FrontRow, Safari/Webkit, Dashboard, Spotlight, more advanced typography, ColorSynch, Core Image, Core Audio, and various major additions and improvements to Cocoa (i.e. the NS class library) ….

Voice annotated email was a gimmick to show off the DSP. If there had been huge demand for it, it would have been in OS X; instead they concentrated on useful features most people would need — and usability. NeXT was brilliant and ahead of its time in many ways, but OS X is not just more usable and attractive, it’s a mature OS used by millions of mainstream users and hundreds of thousands of niche users. NeXTStep never had to support serious video editors, or DTP pros, or whatever, and so where it had *some* functionality in those areas, it now has robust, generally industry-leading features.

dorian

Sorry Steve I didn’t read all the way to your post till I had already submitted the last post. But, sure OSX is X times better looking, we’re talking about 15 years! of advancement here, but there are barely any new features. The presentation is better, but the cake is the same.

Aside from Widgets & Expose, – and widegets where partly used in OS9, there are really few innovations in OSX. Even Spotlight appears in NEXT, and that to me is scarry.

dorian

Next was way ahead of it’s time, so much so that some of the features on it are not available on Tiger. Check it out!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=j02b8Fuz73A

Then tell me I’m wrong…

i.e. When X first came out, we needed Dave to connect to the Windows network, but next as you’ll see in the video already had it!

It has stuff like live links which update files IMMEDIATELY if someone in the other side of the world changes the original file. Adobe has this, but you have to save the file first.

The Mail app in Next had Sound built into it whereas you could record straight into it and send your response via voice.

and that’s just a couple of the features…

Todd Sieling

> Apple’s market share momentum can’t be ignored. It’s a great time to strike with another release of OS X to really put Microsoft in the weeds, a safe distance behind.

I think Apple is certainly ahead of MS in terms of innovation, but even an amazing Leopard release isn’t going to close that huge 80% or so difference in market share. Viva Mac, but MS is nowhere nearly done.

Professor Nerdlinger

Sorry this post is so late, well past it’s promise date; I was delayed by a colorful and playful yet annoying spinning beachball.

Steve

Yeah, sure Dorian. NeXT did most of what OS X can do. But when I’ve gone back to use NeXT on occasion, it seems truly dated. Still cool, but dated. I’ll stick with OS X. What I want to see is tear off menus make a comeback in Leopard!

I know something else I’d like to see….for the love of all that is holy, put a damn frame counter in Quicktime already!

Nick Santilli

hackand – with the rumors flying leading up to WWDC, it was more something that made me laugh, because there’s no validity to it (as some have pointed out, how can something be late if it hasn’t been announced?). Sorry to those who were misled/duped. (Though I suppose I was playing off the insanity that surrounds events like next week’s.)

Josh/Scroffuti – You just won a free copy of Leopard! Too bad you didn’t leave an email address. Now we can’t get it to you…

Sha Aker – And thank YOU for adding to the wasted bandwidth with your comment.

Good things, good things. Cheers.

Sha Aker

Hey Nick! Thanks for nothing with the misleading title and no substance to your words. Why are you wasting bandwidth? Wrap yourself in Vista!!!

hackand

Dorian, I say you need to do something to get that bitterness off of you.

And Nick, you could have named the article “What If…” or something like that and put the first two paragraphs in blockquotes to emphazise it’s not a reality, to avoid the “slower” guys that before having finished processing the text they just read are already commenting. A different title could also avoid the sensationalism theorists around. (because you really didn’t mean that, did you?)

Josh Pigford

Or, maybe the point most people missed is that you’re just writing a deliberately sensational headline to fish for hits…

Yesss! You’ve figured it out! Nick…what has Scrofutti won? ;)

Scrofutti

Or, maybe the point most people missed is that you’re just writing a deliberately sensational headline to fish for hits…

Nick Santilli

So for those who missed the point that I’m highlighting something that Apple doesn’t allow to happen, I edited the 2nd part of the article to read, ‘All Joking Aside’, rather than ‘Truth be told’…

Myles

How can an unannounced product be delayed? Leopard has not been announced, and no release date has been anounced. How can it be delayed?

Nick Santilli

Pecos –
You cracked it! (Or maybe you just continued reading what I wrote, we may never know.)

Apple has said before that they weren’t going to do something, and then they did. (Video capable iPod anyone?) So I wouldn’t count anything out. By the way, what’s your source of Apple’s statement there? I honestly hadn’t heard that.

Tim –
Yeah, my intent was a ludicrous statement for the sake of fun. My point was that the crazy claim is something Apple closely manages by way of limited – if any – publicized information.

Max

Um…this is the first time I’ve heard of a Leopard delay announced by Apple. Perhaps a link to an Apple webpage or AP article would help boost this claim…

tim

Unless I’m completely missing the boat, the post is making its point by starting with a patently absurd situation. Problem is, the way it’s written, it’s hard to tell. But I don’t think the author intends us to believe that Leopard has actually been delayed, just that Apple would never put itself in the situation of having to make such an announcement, because it only announces dates when it really, really, really is sure, not just to generate some vaporware buzz. In fact, didn’t Apple over-deliver by half a year on the first Intel Macs?

Now *that’s* how to manage expectations!

Cardwamp Gigglefactor

> …to milk us like cows!

… Mmmmmmmmm.. milk cows

Nuno

So, NeXT was “years ahead of its time” ?
What’s your point ?

Windows Lover ! ;-)

Pecos Bill

Since Apple has yet to even announce a ship target, how would you/we know it has been delayed? In recent versions, Apple states a rather wide range for the ship date anyway if they announce anything at WWDC.

I doubt you’re all that informed as Apple, in a rather rare comment, stated without question or doubt that Leopard will NOT have built in virtualization like Parallels.

Dorian

What really ticks me off is the fact that most of the features that are expected for Leopard are ancient history. NEXT had all the features that OSX has back in the early 90’s! All Apple is doing is twicking the code and spoon feeding us the features one at a time to milk us like cows!

Did you know that you could record audio annotations to the mail app in NEXT. I bet that feature is going to appear in Leopard and everyone is going to say WOW! I say “Bull Shit”!

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