Comments on: YouTube: Where Naked Ambition Meets Community Values

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Shady Secrets of Going Viral on YouTube « NewTeeVee — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 07:14:03 +0000

[...] as fulfillment of Ackerman Greenberg’s premise. We’ve written before about how permissive YouTube has been about its users’ methods of generating video views — which also [...]

By: Thee Stranger

Thee Stranger — Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:50:54 +0000

I don’t see it as YT “puritan police” trying to mold the website as they see fit, other than in one regard.

These people want to see creative people who do it because they love to create. They don’t care for those who are in it just to make a buck, and IMO, rightly so.

They don’t want to be lied to, and they don’t want to be used as a stepping stone on someone’s quest for fame and fortune.

LisaNova is a talented young lady who rose to fame because she was entertaining. The “flyering your windshield, passing out demos” stage has passed for Lisa. She’s gained as much success as one could get from that website. The spam was not necessary.

What really bothered me though was that knowing that soon after, I’d get hammered with spam from those emulating her actions, and I’m still getting hammered with spam on my page because of it.

I also discovered that Lisa has outright deceived the community for her own gain, which I will go into more detail in on my upcoming YT news channel on the July 9th.

Anyways, all I have to say is if you want to create, CREATE. Your talent will be rewarded, but PLEASE don’t treat me as a means to an end along the way.

By: Mark Day

Mark Day — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:48:09 +0000

James:

To everyone outside the Youtube community (i.e. the >entertainment industry), popularity means very little >versus actual talent…

True, in the alternate reality where Arrested Development got picked up for a few more seasons, all movies achieved box office in exact proportion to some carefully calibrated ‘quality’ scale and exceptionally unphotogenic musicians got all the air time on MTV.

In this dimension, well, not so much.

To borrow from one of Chuck Klosterman’s favorite themes, I think weighing in on whether someone’s creative output is over-rated or under-rated is the most natural thing in the world. The difference is, outside of rap “answer records”, there hasn’t really been a medium where the content and the critique can take exactly the same form. You can trash Spiderman 3 without ever really thinking, “I could do better…” (although…). But in online video, the playing field is (somewhat) level. Even when it’s not.

That makes for an interesting, messy, and sometimes cannibalistic dialogue.

By: sean bedlam

sean bedlam — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:36:42 +0000

The “exposing fakes” crowd are living in a beautiful, tasty irony: they’re slipstreaming celebrities. The idea of little puritans unknowingly behaving as cultural parasites rocks my mirth gland to hell. They’re self-appointed Youtube police and it’s exciting to see them out themselves as best-avoided wet blankets. Fortunately, not all of the Youtube culture is eating itself: there are folk like Mark creating new work. And that’s what it’s all about.

By: Jackson West

Jackson West — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 02:30:56 +0000

What’s interesting to me is how the company is or isn’t making changes to the site in response. There very much seems to be a laissez fair attitude, up and until money gets involved. Certainly other large social network sites are dealing with similar issues, including Digg and Flickr.

By: James

James — Sun, 01 Jul 2007 23:51:36 +0000

To everyone outside the Youtube community (i.e. the entertainment industry), popularity means very little versus actual talent…and last time I checked, Mr. Day was promoting himself on every video sharing site known to man..and he’ll most likely be on the next one that pops up.