Comments on: Yes, Virginia, There Are Good Web Series

By: New York Times and Web Shows « Asmedia

New York Times and Web Shows « Asmedia — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:57:47 +0000

[...] These articles come a week after Viriginia Heffernan’s piece in The New York Times Magazine entitled, “Serial Killers,” was blasted by commenters, Tilzy.Tv, and NewTeeVee. [...]

By: Dheidland

Dheidland — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:06:13 +0000

While these new web series are something to put faith in we are still seeking traditional broadcasting corporate culture driving failure. I examine this in detail reviewing NBC’s bungled Gemini Division ARG launch this week. For the full article visit http://www.primetimeforchange.com

By: Drawn By Pain Comes to A Close - NewTeeVee Station

Drawn By Pain Comes to A Close - NewTeeVee Station — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:13:37 +0000

[...] Webby win (for Best Use of Animation/Motion Graphics). But it’s yet another example of why Virginia Heffernan’s loss of faith in quality web series is completely off-base — a uniquely told, dark and intimate story that would never have gotten a foothold in [...]

By: ASM Blog » Blog Archive » NYT looks out of touch re: web series

ASM Blog » Blog Archive » NYT looks out of touch re: web series — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:15:49 +0000

[...] Chris Albrecht over at NewTeeVee finishes the job, though I’m not sure I agree with his take on 3-to-5 minute episodes not sticking because they’re too long for quick viral-style closure but too short for TV sitcom/drama-style schedule annexation. I’d argue that, as fully developed pieces of a larger entity that can be snacked on or devoured whole [shown by the way people are watching Dorm Life on Hulu] they’re the ultimate engagement weapon. Just wait till distributors, brands and producers figure out how to market these things. Right now they’re still being handled like “online TV-like shows,” as the NYT share-module headline awkwardly calls them. [...]

By: CLouds Without Water

CLouds Without Water — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:37:35 +0000

From that last paragraph it sounds like Hefferman is a regular reader of F:F:F

By: Dan Welds

Dan Welds — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:42:17 +0000

There are NOT a lot of good web series, Virginia was right that since Satacracy 88, nothing really has popped online as original. I haven't been impressed with anything since 2007's year of 88, Prom Queen and Goodnight Burbank. Nothing since then has made an effort, and I personally don't see anything trying now or in 2008 at all. Good luck web producers, you have your work cut out for you.

By: Ned Canty

Ned Canty — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:36:48 +0000

I agree with the general tenor of the criticism--the article was poorly argued; there was no real attempt at categorizing new models or defining the differences between the types of video she was discussing; she got some basic facts wrong, etc.

But I also agree with Tim that there is a fairly massive general audience that doesn't know about or can't find new shows as they launch. Whether VH's arguments or solid or not, the fact that she is making at all them is a bit of a canary in the coal mine.

The worst case scenario is that the massive wave of talent that is currently producing for the web exhausts itself before enough of them can make enough to pay their rent, and we lose their creativity to some other endeavor.

By: Could Rocketboom Blow Up What’s Left of John Edwards? at Deceiver.com

Could Rocketboom Blow Up What’s Left of John Edwards? at Deceiver.com — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:35:19 +0000

[...] NewTeeVee analyzes Virginia Heffernan’s analysis of web video series, using Rielle’s dopey campaign videos as Exhibit A. (I refuse to link directly to the NYT until they admit they stole from us. That is to say, never.) And over at the LA Times, Bradley W. Bloch has an opinion piece about how the Edwards scandal relates to social networking. It’s funny how quickly these newspapers flip-flopped from “It’s not news” to “Let’s find any excuse whatsoever to mention it.” /* */ [...]

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Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:06:30 +0000

[...] Yes, Virginia, There Are Good Web Series - Newteevee.comVirginia Heffernan, the normally-astute media writer for the New York Times, wrote a bewildering piece that appeared in the paper’s magazine on Sunday. “Serial Killers” took web video series to task, albeit in a pretty confusing manner. My main [...]

By: jim

jim — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:03:39 +0000

Lot of good internet series. Has anyone checked out The League at http://www.theleaguetv.com? To the point of the above article, it exceeds the 3 – 5 minute length rule of most successful web series, but it is engaging, funny, and well done.