Comments on: Sorry, HTML5 Crowd, Flash Ain’t Dead Yet

By: Andreas Floemer

Andreas Floemer — Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:31:03 +0000

Sorry, HTML5 Crowd, Flash Ain’t Dead Yet — http://t.co/q9xrzviL

By: virginia wedding

virginia wedding — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:08:38 +0000

I don’t think flash is dead. I wish it were more searchable for SEO.

By: name

name — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:48:23 +0000

flash is already dead when it was born! its a zombie, a ragdoll.

By: Jawad

Jawad — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:57:24 +0000

You can do wonders with ultra light flash plugin which you can never imagine doing it in HTML5. You can build multi-user complex games in flash, you can create advance rich internet apps. From chat applications to creative UX applications to amazing games to youtube to millions of web apps today dependent on flash technology. Flash is the only technology that gives you same user experience on every browser. Flash is already on almost every browser, you can't survive without it. These are only buzzes and rumors created by rival adobe companies for its going down. If HTML5 is going to replace anything at all then it's going to be the least share stuff like javaFX and silverlight.

By: plαdys » Flash vs HTML5

plαdys » Flash vs HTML5 — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:25:26 +0000

[...] Flash ain’t dead yet [...]

By: Ed

Ed — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:11:55 +0000

I thought it was the other way around. Usually HTML5 defenders only talk about video, while Flash is so much more than video. I have nothing against HTML5 I just strongly believe that Flash i no where near dead. And I'm praying that Apple allows it at least on the iPad (cold day in hell, iTunes store would lose too much $)....oh well I did buy an iPad but, I really can't wait for the HP Slate.

By: Ed

Ed — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:59:16 +0000

Nice!!!

By: RickDres

RickDres — Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:38:51 +0000

First, Flash is the closest thing to "standard" that exists on the web. Second, HTML 5 is not a standard, it is a specification which leaves it up to browser manufacturers to make into a standard. This is usually where it fails :)

By: RickDres

RickDres — Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:28:51 +0000

There are many flaws in your argument. You claim that HTML 5 can do EVERYTHING that flash does quite magically. Really? That is a pretty bold statement. Your forgetting that Flash is the closest thing to a standard the web has ever experienced. This is a fact. No other web technology can come close to serving the same user experience regardless of browser, version etc.. Sure, like anything, there have been hiccups along the way, but overall I am quite confident that my flash apps look and function the same in most browsers.

HTML 5, as promising as it sounds(and I am not against it), in and of itself is merely a specification left up to browser developers to support. What makes you think that they will support it the same way consistently in the future? Please don't fall victim to short term memory in regards to browser development and shortcomings. I will admit things have gotten more consistent with browsers, but they are far from perfect and don't forget we will have to support IE7 for many years. This is a big issue. Not to mention all the IE bs with things such as cleartype, which affect jquery aesthetics among other things. All in all there are many problems web designers must face today and this pipe dream that HTML 5 will cure all of it is something not in the cards right now. Why? because of the user base. Many people still use old browsers.

The push to standardize you claim will "absolutely happen" is something browser developers have been claiming for years. I'll believe it when it actually happens. Sorry to be such a cynic, but we have only past track records to go by. I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way.

Last, I would suggest you look at some of the very best Flash examples out there (thefwa.com), and try to create the same exact thing with HTML5. You said it could be done magically, well let's see some magic. Also, whatever you create needs to work and look the same in a multitude of browsers. When you are done, please post a link and if you have succeeded, I will apologize and admit defeat.

g'day...

By: Chotpy

Chotpy — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:15:08 +0000

Sorry to be the spelling Nazi.

"Biut what about HTML5?"

Great article. HTML5 may not be compatible with all browsers yet, but it sure seems like it will make a lot of things easier.