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	<title>Comments on: Livestream Calls Out Ustream and Justin.tv for Profiting Off of Piracy</title>
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		<title>By: justin tv</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/livestream-calls-out-ustream-and-justin-tv-for-profiting-off-of-piracy/#comment-481721</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[justin tv]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 12:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I think we should look to some of the people on the other side of the table to really asses who’s leading this part of the industry.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should look to some of the people on the other side of the table to really asses who’s leading this part of the industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Watch Out, Ustream &#38; Justin.tv: YouTube Starts Live Streaming</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/livestream-calls-out-ustream-and-justin-tv-for-profiting-off-of-piracy/#comment-481720</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Watch Out, Ustream &#38; Justin.tv: YouTube Starts Live Streaming]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] and Justin.tv have in the past faced criticism for enabling copyright infringement. Both sites now use video filtering, but some argue that these measures don&#8217;t go far enough. YouTube&#8217;s announcement hints [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and Justin.tv have in the past faced criticism for enabling copyright infringement. Both sites now use video filtering, but some argue that these measures don&#8217;t go far enough. YouTube&#8217;s announcement hints [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barclays New York Challenge a Coming-Out Party for Veetle</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/livestream-calls-out-ustream-and-justin-tv-for-profiting-off-of-piracy/#comment-481719</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barclays New York Challenge a Coming-Out Party for Veetle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] that the company is adhering to the DMCA and immediately removing content upon request. Of course, piracy is a touchy subject when it comes to live streaming, and one can only imagine that Veetle might feel more heat once [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that the company is adhering to the DMCA and immediately removing content upon request. Of course, piracy is a touchy subject when it comes to live streaming, and one can only imagine that Veetle might feel more heat once [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisB</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ChrisB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 09:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Well people wouldn&#039;t be streaming southpark with southparkstudios.com would stream their OWN videos.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And people wouldn&#039;t be streaming family guy if FOX would allow hulu.com to host a video from last month.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;These companies want to STOP users from watching their own stuff then they get mad when users try to share it around.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am with justin.tv and and ustream :D
I HATE livestream cause all the BS hoops you have to jump through...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well people wouldn&#8217;t be streaming southpark with southparkstudios.com would stream their OWN videos.</p>
<p>And people wouldn&#8217;t be streaming family guy if FOX would allow hulu.com to host a video from last month.</p>
<p>These companies want to STOP users from watching their own stuff then they get mad when users try to share it around.</p>
<p>I am with justin.tv and and ustream :D<br />
I HATE livestream cause all the BS hoops you have to jump through&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Johhn appel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johhn appel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;From a user’s perspective, of course, live events like sports are the final frontier of content, as essentially every other form of digital content can be had via P2P or direct download services. It should not be surprising that a huge underground sector has grown up to provide what is lacking legally. Even if it gets stomped out on the services discussed here, it will surely pop up elsewhere, probably in an even better form.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a user’s perspective, of course, live events like sports are the final frontier of content, as essentially every other form of digital content can be had via P2P or direct download services. It should not be surprising that a huge underground sector has grown up to provide what is lacking legally. Even if it gets stomped out on the services discussed here, it will surely pop up elsewhere, probably in an even better form.</p>
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		<title>By: YouTube Could Get Into the Live Streaming Game</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[YouTube Could Get Into the Live Streaming Game]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] deal with copyright issues, as live streaming sites like Justin.tv and Ustream have faced problems keeping copyrighted content from being streamed by their members. Given its ongoing copyright infringement suit with Viacom, [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] deal with copyright issues, as live streaming sites like Justin.tv and Ustream have faced problems keeping copyrighted content from being streamed by their members. Given its ongoing copyright infringement suit with Viacom, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Livestream si schiera apertamente contro la pirateria</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Livestream si schiera apertamente contro la pirateria]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 03:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] piattaforma, elencando una serie di regole atte alla realizzazione di quanto previsto. Ma è da un articolo approfondito su NewTeeVee che apprendiamo quanto ha [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] piattaforma, elencando una serie di regole atte alla realizzazione di quanto previsto. Ma è da un articolo approfondito su NewTeeVee che apprendiamo quanto ha [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Five Questions With&#8230; Livestream.com&#8217;s Max Haot</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/livestream-calls-out-ustream-and-justin-tv-for-profiting-off-of-piracy/#comment-481714</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Five Questions With&#8230; Livestream.com&#8217;s Max Haot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 07:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] WILD-CARD: Last month&#8217;s open letter regarding Livestream&#8217;s zero tolerance policy towards piracy caused some controversy due to the way in which it accused competitors of not sharing that policy. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] WILD-CARD: Last month&#8217;s open letter regarding Livestream&#8217;s zero tolerance policy towards piracy caused some controversy due to the way in which it accused competitors of not sharing that policy. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: okey</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/livestream-calls-out-ustream-and-justin-tv-for-profiting-off-of-piracy/#comment-481713</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[okey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I really like your topic .. Topics I&#039;ve shared your facebook .. Thank you very much again .. In addition, I gave my site a few below, if you like it, you&#039;ll be glad to sites in and make comments&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like your topic .. Topics I&#8217;ve shared your facebook .. Thank you very much again .. In addition, I gave my site a few below, if you like it, you&#8217;ll be glad to sites in and make comments</p>
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		<title>By: Video Interview: Sweden&#8217;s Mobile Live Video Platform Bambuser</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/livestream-calls-out-ustream-and-justin-tv-for-profiting-off-of-piracy/#comment-481712</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Video Interview: Sweden&#8217;s Mobile Live Video Platform Bambuser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 07:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] competition has in the past been plagued by copyright issues, with live streaming provider LiveStream recently alleging that competitors Ustream and Justin.tv allow &#8220;preventable content infringement&#8221; on [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] competition has in the past been plagued by copyright issues, with live streaming provider LiveStream recently alleging that competitors Ustream and Justin.tv allow &#8220;preventable content infringement&#8221; on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/livestream-calls-out-ustream-and-justin-tv-for-profiting-off-of-piracy/#comment-481711</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&quot;Why is free culture horrible?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Umm.. well take my company for example launching in March 2011. We are producing wrestling events, streaming them live on our website and then making them available OnDemand. If everybody believed in a free culture, I wouldnt have a business.. Why do you believe you should get something for nothing? Can you not afford it or do you like being a bum. My company will provide free content on a daily basis so monthly Pay Per View events is where our money will be made.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is free culture horrible?&#8221;</p>
<p>Umm.. well take my company for example launching in March 2011. We are producing wrestling events, streaming them live on our website and then making them available OnDemand. If everybody believed in a free culture, I wouldnt have a business.. Why do you believe you should get something for nothing? Can you not afford it or do you like being a bum. My company will provide free content on a daily basis so monthly Pay Per View events is where our money will be made.</p>
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		<title>By: Livestream si schiera apertamente contro la pirateria - Commenta la tecnologia, la telefonia, i software</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/livestream-calls-out-ustream-and-justin-tv-for-profiting-off-of-piracy/#comment-481710</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Livestream si schiera apertamente contro la pirateria - Commenta la tecnologia, la telefonia, i software]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 00:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] piattaforma, elencando una serie di regole atte alla realizzazione di quanto previsto. Ma è da un articolo approfondito su NewTeeVee che apprendiamo quanto ha [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] piattaforma, elencando una serie di regole atte alla realizzazione di quanto previsto. Ma è da un articolo approfondito su NewTeeVee che apprendiamo quanto ha [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/livestream-calls-out-ustream-and-justin-tv-for-profiting-off-of-piracy/#comment-481709</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lawrence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&quot;P.S&quot; and &quot;WeschesterNews.Com&quot; raise some verying interestig points.
Nonetheless, piracy, that which was and is practiced on the high seas and oceans, must be unknown or respected by some that have made comments against Livestream. The concept of intellectual rights seems to be the subject. Someone or team has invested time, effort and expenses to create &quot;something original.&quot; In our discussion case, it&#039;s content.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How do the content creators, retrieve cost and gain reward from their invested ideas and effort? In one sense they place &quot;their finished product&quot; in the marketplace for sale. Now, every Tom, Dick and Jim come along...see &quot;Harry Potter&quot;, copy it and also place their copies in the marketplace for sale. Tom, Dick and Jim spent no time &quot;thinking up the idea, researching the steps to make it happen, and hiring people to make it.&quot; Tom, Dick and Jim never see the the hidden steps of technology. Let&#039;s call this the X factor. Tom and friends don&#039;t really care about it. To simplify, the X factor is mental, physical and financial debt. Tom and friends only care about the product of technology, the book, what they see: content. However, their rip-off help kill the spirit of the inventor and others who dare to create.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The inventor might have mortgaged life savings and those of supportive friends. The illegal copies of Tom and Friends are selling like hotcakes and their firm grows wealthy. The person that created the original is never able to recoup enough money to pay off debt or survive. The illegal copies are covering or blocking the market for sale of the original.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Today, hardware technology like the Internet makes it easy for people not to see or ever think about who is really hurt by intellectual copyright infringement.  Websites like this enable the masses to vote by offering opinon about something we have not sweated over, invented and have no real vested interest.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t believe those who are unsympathetic to Livestream really ever stopped to think about what happended to young Philo (Mr. Television) Farnsworth (at the hands of RCA) or Dr. Armstrong who invented FM Radio, or the man that invented the Sears socket wrench. Young people today are not immune from intellectual infringement. Did You Tube reward the 3rd grader for her or his idea..if the story is true. Ostensibly You Tube made a lot money off that idea.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Copyright and patent laws have a history and much of it was developed to help protect future creative minds. You are the future. Let us recall that technology is threefold and using it makes us capable of blocking one or more of our senses that make us human.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;P.S&#8221; and &#8220;WeschesterNews.Com&#8221; raise some verying interestig points.<br />
Nonetheless, piracy, that which was and is practiced on the high seas and oceans, must be unknown or respected by some that have made comments against Livestream. The concept of intellectual rights seems to be the subject. Someone or team has invested time, effort and expenses to create &#8220;something original.&#8221; In our discussion case, it&#8217;s content.</p>
<p>How do the content creators, retrieve cost and gain reward from their invested ideas and effort? In one sense they place &#8220;their finished product&#8221; in the marketplace for sale. Now, every Tom, Dick and Jim come along&#8230;see &#8220;Harry Potter&#8221;, copy it and also place their copies in the marketplace for sale. Tom, Dick and Jim spent no time &#8220;thinking up the idea, researching the steps to make it happen, and hiring people to make it.&#8221; Tom, Dick and Jim never see the the hidden steps of technology. Let&#8217;s call this the X factor. Tom and friends don&#8217;t really care about it. To simplify, the X factor is mental, physical and financial debt. Tom and friends only care about the product of technology, the book, what they see: content. However, their rip-off help kill the spirit of the inventor and others who dare to create.</p>
<p>The inventor might have mortgaged life savings and those of supportive friends. The illegal copies of Tom and Friends are selling like hotcakes and their firm grows wealthy. The person that created the original is never able to recoup enough money to pay off debt or survive. The illegal copies are covering or blocking the market for sale of the original.</p>
<p>Today, hardware technology like the Internet makes it easy for people not to see or ever think about who is really hurt by intellectual copyright infringement.  Websites like this enable the masses to vote by offering opinon about something we have not sweated over, invented and have no real vested interest.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe those who are unsympathetic to Livestream really ever stopped to think about what happended to young Philo (Mr. Television) Farnsworth (at the hands of RCA) or Dr. Armstrong who invented FM Radio, or the man that invented the Sears socket wrench. Young people today are not immune from intellectual infringement. Did You Tube reward the 3rd grader for her or his idea..if the story is true. Ostensibly You Tube made a lot money off that idea.</p>
<p>Copyright and patent laws have a history and much of it was developed to help protect future creative minds. You are the future. Let us recall that technology is threefold and using it makes us capable of blocking one or more of our senses that make us human.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 05:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Livestream, this is nothing to be proud of.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Livestream, this is nothing to be proud of.</p>
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		<title>By: firelogs3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[firelogs3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;so Mogulus changes it&#039;s name to Livestream, decides to no longer allow pirated material and then become sanctimonius against sites that allow people to stream stuff, hmmmm..&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so Mogulus changes it&#8217;s name to Livestream, decides to no longer allow pirated material and then become sanctimonius against sites that allow people to stream stuff, hmmmm..</p>
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		<title>By: terry barratt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[terry barratt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;hmmm puritans....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think we pay royalties to the carpenter and plumber and electrician that built this house, so I&#039;m not completely understanding the differences here. the band and the construction crew performed their job. They both got paid..should be end of story. But, the record industry decided to record the performance and make copies to sell. They convinced the law to cooperate while they manipulated the recording industry for years.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now that everyone can make the recording, they still want to own the rights...who died and made them god?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I bought a beatles album in 1964, I am still paying royalties on the tunes that are on that album, every time they are played on the radio, in a bar, used in background sound. It&#039;s merely money laundering for the people in the recording industry that don&#039;t actually do anything.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The reality is that copyright as you all know it has served it&#039;s purpose and has done it&#039;s time. It&#039;s time to dump the middle man, that model no longer works, and we don&#039;t need a middleman (telling us what to listen to). The model needs to be adjusted.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In Canada, tariff 22 is still being worked on (over 10 years) to allow a collection of royalties from the Internet. However, the way it&#039;s coming out, it would be better for the musician that it didn&#039;t exist. It basically sells their rights for peanuts and gives others the right to make money on the process (sort of like radio).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The recorded record openned up music to so many that could not otherwise have heard what was going on. It made the world more music aware. And as you can see, it has thrived, however, there&#039;s more to that element than a pristine CD recording. There&#039;s performance..&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We&#039;re back to pay for performance.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm puritans&#8230;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we pay royalties to the carpenter and plumber and electrician that built this house, so I&#8217;m not completely understanding the differences here. the band and the construction crew performed their job. They both got paid..should be end of story. But, the record industry decided to record the performance and make copies to sell. They convinced the law to cooperate while they manipulated the recording industry for years.</p>
<p>Now that everyone can make the recording, they still want to own the rights&#8230;who died and made them god?</p>
<p>I bought a beatles album in 1964, I am still paying royalties on the tunes that are on that album, every time they are played on the radio, in a bar, used in background sound. It&#8217;s merely money laundering for the people in the recording industry that don&#8217;t actually do anything.</p>
<p>The reality is that copyright as you all know it has served it&#8217;s purpose and has done it&#8217;s time. It&#8217;s time to dump the middle man, that model no longer works, and we don&#8217;t need a middleman (telling us what to listen to). The model needs to be adjusted.</p>
<p>In Canada, tariff 22 is still being worked on (over 10 years) to allow a collection of royalties from the Internet. However, the way it&#8217;s coming out, it would be better for the musician that it didn&#8217;t exist. It basically sells their rights for peanuts and gives others the right to make money on the process (sort of like radio).</p>
<p>The recorded record openned up music to so many that could not otherwise have heard what was going on. It made the world more music aware. And as you can see, it has thrived, however, there&#8217;s more to that element than a pristine CD recording. There&#8217;s performance..</p>
<p>We&#8217;re back to pay for performance.</p>
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