Comments on: Is P2P Dead? Not So Fast

By: Oh crud, The Economist! « the liquidculture notebook

Oh crud, The Economist! « the liquidculture notebook — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:58:49 +0000

[...] recent explosion of online video traffic, the absolute figures remain strong. As Janko Röttgers recently put it; One conclusion of the analysis of all this data is that P2P isn’t as dominant as it used to be. [...]

By: Survey: Online Video Up to 27% of Internet Traffic

Survey: Online Video Up to 27% of Internet Traffic — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:46:07 +0000

[...] dip in P2P echoes other recent reports from Cisco and Arbor Networks that shows use of peer-to-peer file-sharing as a percentage of broadband usage is on the decline. [...]

By: Tom

Tom — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:03:56 +0000

I also wrote something on this story; First off I think it is important to note that measuring p2p traffic accurately is very difficult. Secondly the article is also a little vague about the context in which this is set; a decline in percentage is not the same as a decline in usage – if the overall numbers are growing also.

Fore more…
http://blog.catbot.org/content/p2p-traffic-declining

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:59:13 +0000

p2p is declining in way of numbers but look at it this way if the RIAA and WPAA got rid of torrents and streaming video all these (old) programs like Winmx and Filetopia will come back to life like they were in 2004/2005 the goverments can put in millions of dollars or pounds to do what there doing now and it still wont have any impact on it

By: Dug Song

Dug Song — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:08:53 +0000

This shouldn't be all that surprising to anyone that's been paying attention to what's become commodity Flash CDN pricing in the last few years. The backstory there is that CDNs now enjoy cheap or settlement-free peering secured by the huge aggregate firehose of their customers (by which they originally amortized the cost of their buildout).

P2P will always have its place as a delivery model for piracy (I've known this since Napster ;-) - but with last-mile bandwidth still highly asymmetric, and appetite for higher quality video unabated, the truly economic alternatives for delivering live or streaming video via anything but commodity unicast CDNs are quickly dwindling.

Which is really unfortunate, because there are some network-friendly, self-organizing, multi-source "multicast" P2P protocols that optimize well for global bandwidth even if they don't optimize well for the game-theoretic brinksmanship that is global peering. So it goes.

In full disclosure, I sat on both sides of this at Arbor Networks and at Zattoo. If you really want to twist your noodle, compare the situation to the controlled chaos that is the Chinese Internet (China Netcom/Telecom north/south divide, lack of BGP, etc.), and what can happen in a parallel Internet universe where P2P is a crucial distribution strategy.

By: jim

jim — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:06:06 +0000

It's simple. Why bother using P2P and risk being caught uploading, when everything you want is available for downloading elsewhere.

TV & Movies? Megavideo, yukou, tudou, and a million clones host the videos -- while tvshack, surfthechannel and a million clones host the directories. And hulu and the network sites even have legit shows.

Want better quality? Download straight from rapidshare or megaupload. Which also have every song, book, comic, game, and program every made it seems.

If the media industry ever shuts down the one-click hosting then P2P will ramp up again.

By: Dan

Dan — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:29:16 +0000

Great article. Why can't Wired hire someone with some sense?