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		<title>By: Angel of Death (Keeps) Killing with 4.7M Views [NewTeeVee] &#124; BYOHosting.com Blogs</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/how-long-should-a-web-season-be/#comment-454581</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Quarterlife had a much bigger publicity blitz and dropped from more than 800,000 plays for its debut to roughly 105,000 for its second episode during its first month. And the first episode of Sorority Forever, which starred web celeb Jessica Rose, was seen by 1.2 million people during its first week. The WB didn&#8217;t release updated stats as the weeks went on, but the show never crossed the 290,000 plays threshhold over on MySpace, with most episodes only pulling in five-figure audiences. Other series like Prom Queen and lonelygirl have experienced erratic traffic patterns. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Quarterlife had a much bigger publicity blitz and dropped from more than 800,000 plays for its debut to roughly 105,000 for its second episode during its first month. And the first episode of Sorority Forever, which starred web celeb Jessica Rose, was seen by 1.2 million people during its first week. The WB didn&#8217;t release updated stats as the weeks went on, but the show never crossed the 290,000 plays threshhold over on MySpace, with most episodes only pulling in five-figure audiences. Other series like Prom Queen and lonelygirl have experienced erratic traffic patterns. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Angel of Death (Keeps) Killing with 4.7M Views</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/how-long-should-a-web-season-be/#comment-454580</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Quarterlife had a much bigger publicity blitz and dropped from more than 800,000 plays for its debut to roughly 105,000 for its second episode during its first month. And the first episode of Sorority Forever, which starred web celeb Jessica Rose, was seen by 1.2 million people during its first week. The WB didn&#8217;t release updated stats as the weeks went on, but the show never crossed the 290,000 plays threshhold over on MySpace, with most episodes only pulling in five-figure audiences. Other series like Prom Queen and lonelygirl have experienced erratic traffic patterns. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Quarterlife had a much bigger publicity blitz and dropped from more than 800,000 plays for its debut to roughly 105,000 for its second episode during its first month. And the first episode of Sorority Forever, which starred web celeb Jessica Rose, was seen by 1.2 million people during its first week. The WB didn&#8217;t release updated stats as the weeks went on, but the show never crossed the 290,000 plays threshhold over on MySpace, with most episodes only pulling in five-figure audiences. Other series like Prom Queen and lonelygirl have experienced erratic traffic patterns. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: seriouslymedia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Vuguru’s Foreign Body Takes (it) Off</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/how-long-should-a-web-season-be/#comment-454579</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seriouslymedia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Vuguru’s Foreign Body Takes (it) Off]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 04:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] 10 weeks. That&#8217;s a whole lotta content. Prom Queen racked up 15 million views, but the vast majority of those were at the beginning of the series. Stats won&#8217;t matter as much for this series [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 10 weeks. That&#8217;s a whole lotta content. Prom Queen racked up 15 million views, but the vast majority of those were at the beginning of the series. Stats won&#8217;t matter as much for this series [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eisner&#8217;s All-for-Nots, Not for All &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/how-long-should-a-web-season-be/#comment-454578</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eisner&#8217;s All-for-Nots, Not for All &#171; NewTeeVee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] the mild success of Prom Queen, and the not-successful sequel Prom Queen: Summer Heat, Eisner is prepping the launch of his new comedic series The All-for-Nots. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the mild success of Prom Queen, and the not-successful sequel Prom Queen: Summer Heat, Eisner is prepping the launch of his new comedic series The All-for-Nots. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: REDEARTH88 Takes on Lonelygirl15 &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/how-long-should-a-web-season-be/#comment-454577</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[REDEARTH88 Takes on Lonelygirl15 &#171; NewTeeVee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] competitor is REDEARTH88, a series that&#8217;s starting to build a serious fan base at a time when Lonelygirl&#8217;s audience is falling off from previous [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] competitor is REDEARTH88, a series that&#8217;s starting to build a serious fan base at a time when Lonelygirl&#8217;s audience is falling off from previous [...]</p>
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		<title>By: modelmotion</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/how-long-should-a-web-season-be/#comment-454576</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Great article.  I agree with some of the previous comments that RedEarth88 is a very promising show.  It is great to see how this genre is expanding and the different approaches that are being experimented with.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks again for such a well documented article.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  I agree with some of the previous comments that RedEarth88 is a very promising show.  It is great to see how this genre is expanding and the different approaches that are being experimented with.</p>
<p>Thanks again for such a well documented article.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Albrecht</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Albrecht]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;virginia9000,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I sent a note off to the RedEarth guys today, hopefully they&#039;ll write back soon. Check the RSS feed!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>virginia9000,</p>
<p>I sent a note off to the RedEarth guys today, hopefully they&#8217;ll write back soon. Check the RSS feed!</p>
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		<title>By: virginian9000</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/how-long-should-a-web-season-be/#comment-454574</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Liz &quot;Thanks for the tips on Redearth88. Chris promises he will do a piece on them soon. Check back next week. :)&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wow, that&#039;s great!! As a huge fan of the show, I can&#039;t wait to see it. Do you happen to know when that is scheduled to be posted?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, I have the RSS feed in my reader, so I should see it either way. Let me know! Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz &#8220;Thanks for the tips on Redearth88. Chris promises he will do a piece on them soon. Check back next week. :)&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, that&#8217;s great!! As a huge fan of the show, I can&#8217;t wait to see it. Do you happen to know when that is scheduled to be posted?</p>
<p>Well, I have the RSS feed in my reader, so I should see it either way. Let me know! Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Albrecht</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/how-long-should-a-web-season-be/#comment-454573</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Albrecht]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Neil,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I see what you&#039;re saying, and this is by no means the final, comprehensive word on the subject, but I was trying to figure out if/why web series go on for so long, especially in  an ADD environment like the web.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is it better for LG to go on for 400+ episodes, or is it better suited to spinning off properties like Kate Modern that keep the mythology going without going stale?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Neil,</p>
<p>I see what you&#8217;re saying, and this is by no means the final, comprehensive word on the subject, but I was trying to figure out if/why web series go on for so long, especially in  an ADD environment like the web.</p>
<p>Is it better for LG to go on for 400+ episodes, or is it better suited to spinning off properties like Kate Modern that keep the mythology going without going stale?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/how-long-should-a-web-season-be/#comment-454572</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Great article, Chris!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Still - the obsession with &quot;Overnights&quot;!  Or the-closest-equivalent-we-can-get-to-them!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The level of analysis around at the moment 
- my own groping in the dark included - 
feels about as sophiscated as commenting on TV in the 1950s using radio network criteria.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The total &#039;views&#039; Season 1 of Katemodern, for instance, is still rising.  What does that mean?  Is that relevant?
Does it matter that the vid eps are &#039;archived&#039; on youtube rather than bebo?  &quot;Long tail&quot; anyone?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know what it all means - but I do try to catch myself when using TV criteria to judge online shows and avoid using &quot;Its just tv down a telephone cable&quot;-type comments (just as TV was &quot;radio with pictures&quot; 50 years ago)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s no analysis, for instance, of the activity &#039;away&#039; from the vid postings - forums, fan videos etc etc etc
Even the ad industry hasn&#039;t got its head around people discussing openly with each other how effective or clunky a product integration is executed.
What does that all mean?  For example, is an advertising message is more effective if people make the effort to post comments on how they did not enjoy an integration?  I guess we&#039;ll work it out as the shows come and go!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Chris!</p>
<p>Still &#8211; the obsession with &#8220;Overnights&#8221;!  Or the-closest-equivalent-we-can-get-to-them!</p>
<p>The level of analysis around at the moment<br />
- my own groping in the dark included &#8211;<br />
feels about as sophiscated as commenting on TV in the 1950s using radio network criteria.</p>
<p>The total &#8216;views&#8217;Season 1 of Katemodern, for instance, is still rising.  What does that mean?  Is that relevant?<br />
Does it matter that the vid eps are &#8216;archived&#8217;on youtube rather than bebo?  &#8220;Long tail&#8221; anyone?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what it all means &#8211; but I do try to catch myself when using TV criteria to judge online shows and avoid using &#8220;Its just tv down a telephone cable&#8221;-type comments (just as TV was &#8220;radio with pictures&#8221; 50 years ago)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no analysis, for instance, of the activity &#8216;away&#8217;from the vid postings &#8211; forums, fan videos etc etc etc<br />
Even the ad industry hasn&#8217;t got its head around people discussing openly with each other how effective or clunky a product integration is executed.<br />
What does that all mean?  For example, is an advertising message is more effective if people make the effort to post comments on how they did not enjoy an integration?  I guess we&#8217;ll work it out as the shows come and go!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Santiago</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/how-long-should-a-web-season-be/#comment-454571</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Santiago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I think the ichannel has a great story line. How does it compare to these other shows? Seems to me like they have a nice following, me included.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the ichannel has a great story line. How does it compare to these other shows? Seems to me like they have a nice following, me included.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;This was actually really interesting to look at, how long did it take you to come up with all the stats on this? I have been taking a pretty close look at Quarterlife lately, especially with all the NBC talk that has been revolving around it. I have heard a few things about Lonely Girl, but haven&#039;t made the time to get around to watching it yet. I actually have created a few shows of my own on the internet, its encouraging that shows like Lonely Girl and Quarterlife, are pulling a considerably consistent audience for each webisode. Now all of the Broadband Distributed Content we see on the net is getting Primetime Emmy consideration. I am actually working with the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences, and as a creator of my own content this is great news. I highly encourage you check it out at http://www.emmys.com, its awesome, as we all can see the online video industry is finding its legs, but it seems to be the way of the future in watching television.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was actually really interesting to look at, how long did it take you to come up with all the stats on this? I have been taking a pretty close look at Quarterlife lately, especially with all the NBC talk that has been revolving around it. I have heard a few things about Lonely Girl, but haven&#8217;t made the time to get around to watching it yet. I actually have created a few shows of my own on the internet, its encouraging that shows like Lonely Girl and Quarterlife, are pulling a considerably consistent audience for each webisode. Now all of the Broadband Distributed Content we see on the net is getting Primetime Emmy consideration. I am actually working with the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences, and as a creator of my own content this is great news. I highly encourage you check it out at <a href="http://www.emmys.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.emmys.com</a>, its awesome, as we all can see the online video industry is finding its legs, but it seems to be the way of the future in watching television.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Gannes</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/how-long-should-a-web-season-be/#comment-454569</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz Gannes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Good point, Dave. I&#039;m working on a post tonight where I can include some of your suggestions.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Dave. I&#8217;m working on a post tonight where I can include some of your suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Bratts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Bratts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;True views can never be really summed up unless you have a program that really gets hits across all platforms, and there isn&#039;t anything out there yet that&#039;s official.  I&#039;ve heard the numbers on the itsallinyourhands.com shows are in the 100,000 an episode range, also there are a lot of views on comedy series like abigailsxratedteendiary.com, they also span worldwide based on press in different countries and run on platforms worldwide from veoh to google to megavideo to metacafe, etc...  The fact of the matter is, it will come down to quality produced shows in 2008, and there are only a few of those, Quarterlife doesn&#039;t count because of it&#039;s inflated budget and the fact that it&#039;s a TV show and always was a TV show before it went online.  Nowheremen is also another show that seems to be garnering hits on a global scale, you guys are always looking just at lg15, prom queen and roommates, open up your horizons to all the amazing shows that are out there that do have audiences and loyal ones at that.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True views can never be really summed up unless you have a program that really gets hits across all platforms, and there isn&#8217;t anything out there yet that&#8217;s official.  I&#8217;ve heard the numbers on the itsallinyourhands.com shows are in the 100,000 an episode range, also there are a lot of views on comedy series like abigailsxratedteendiary.com, they also span worldwide based on press in different countries and run on platforms worldwide from veoh to google to megavideo to metacafe, etc&#8230;  The fact of the matter is, it will come down to quality produced shows in 2008, and there are only a few of those, Quarterlife doesn&#8217;t count because of it&#8217;s inflated budget and the fact that it&#8217;s a TV show and always was a TV show before it went online.  Nowheremen is also another show that seems to be garnering hits on a global scale, you guys are always looking just at lg15, prom queen and roommates, open up your horizons to all the amazing shows that are out there that do have audiences and loyal ones at that.</p>
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		<title>By: milowent</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/how-long-should-a-web-season-be/#comment-454567</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;great article chris.  the lg15 stats were reasonably derived.  the revver versions never got huge views (20K was avg for a awhile).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i think the reason we see spikes across online series is that the online distribution platforms (most notably youtube) are designed to showcase individual videos instead of series.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;so a video called &quot;girl tied up&quot; can be huge, but the trickle effect to the series is small.  but the creators of thezs series want to say &quot;our videos avg X views&quot;, and need these Girl tied up vids to up those averages.  indeed, individual vids in most series are placed to try to maximize the views of that one video.  The thumbnail on &quot;girl tied up&quot;, obviously, was panning to the ubiqitous viewer on youtube who still hopes he will stumble upon porn.    a few of the roommates vids (the ones that did best) also had suggestive titles and thumbnails that worked beautifully. same thing with prom queen.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;the core audience of lg15 is probably around 30,000 or so, but they inevitably get more views for some videos that make the most viewed lists on youtube.  Those are additional ad impressions, even if they are aren&#039;t from consistent viewers.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great article chris.  the lg15 stats were reasonably derived.  the revver versions never got huge views (20K was avg for a awhile).</p>
<p>i think the reason we see spikes across online series is that the online distribution platforms (most notably youtube) are designed to showcase individual videos instead of series.</p>
<p>so a video called &#8220;girl tied up&#8221; can be huge, but the trickle effect to the series is small.  but the creators of thezs series want to say &#8220;our videos avg X views&#8221;, and need these Girl tied up vids to up those averages.  indeed, individual vids in most series are placed to try to maximize the views of that one video.  The thumbnail on &#8220;girl tied up&#8221;, obviously, was panning to the ubiqitous viewer on youtube who still hopes he will stumble upon porn.    a few of the roommates vids (the ones that did best) also had suggestive titles and thumbnails that worked beautifully. same thing with prom queen.</p>
<p>the core audience of lg15 is probably around 30,000 or so, but they inevitably get more views for some videos that make the most viewed lists on youtube.  Those are additional ad impressions, even if they are aren&#8217;t from consistent viewers.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Gannes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the tips on Redearth88. Chris promises he will do a piece on them soon. Check back next week. :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tips on Redearth88. Chris promises he will do a piece on them soon. Check back next week. :)</p>
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