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	<title>Comments on: Heavy&#8217;s Husky Network Puts Ads On Anything</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Elbows</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/heavys-husky-network-puts-ads-on-anything/#comment-449364</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Elbows]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or another way I was thinking about it is:

If embedding stuff isnt classed as redistributing it, then this could be seen as a potential loophole.

But if its not redistribution, it must be something else. Public performance perhaps. If so, this sort of use is also already covered by copyright and creative commons.

Technology has already made it quite simply to try to lever profit out of someone elses videos, and the same is certainly true of text blogs where using google blog search, and sorting by date, often reveals a lot of splogs.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or another way I was thinking about it is:</p>
<p>If embedding stuff isnt classed as redistributing it, then this could be seen as a potential loophole.</p>
<p>But if its not redistribution, it must be something else. Public performance perhaps. If so, this sort of use is also already covered by copyright and creative commons.</p>
<p>Technology has already made it quite simply to try to lever profit out of someone elses videos, and the same is certainly true of text blogs where using google blog search, and sorting by date, often reveals a lot of splogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Elbows</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/heavys-husky-network-puts-ads-on-anything/#comment-449363</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Elbows]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ive been pondering the whole issue of whether embedding stuff on a page is really a loophole. When MyHeavy and others misused vloggers feeds for commercial gain, I looked for any court cases that could provide a precedent.

I mean when it comes to rehosting content, its pretty easy to point to things like creative commons and say hmm, this is commercial use, so you cant redistribute my video, because my creative commons license is non-comemrcial.

But if people could claim that embedding stuff is not in any way copyright infringement, then creative commons is no good for protecting vloggers against these dispicabl practices.

So anyways I didnt find many legal cases, but I thought maybe the problems google had with their image search was a fairly good match. They were embedding the fulsize images in their search results, now they dont, and they allow you to see the image in its original context. I assume this was for legal reasons, and things like whether it was a thumbnail or the full image seemed to be important. So Im presuming the same is true for video, we just need someone to actually have a court case to act as an important lesson for others.

The video skin seems quite intrusive but is it really any different to embedding video in a blog that has some google ads on the same page?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive been pondering the whole issue of whether embedding stuff on a page is really a loophole. When MyHeavy and others misused vloggers feeds for commercial gain, I looked for any court cases that could provide a precedent.</p>
<p>I mean when it comes to rehosting content, its pretty easy to point to things like creative commons and say hmm, this is commercial use, so you cant redistribute my video, because my creative commons license is non-comemrcial.</p>
<p>But if people could claim that embedding stuff is not in any way copyright infringement, then creative commons is no good for protecting vloggers against these dispicabl practices.</p>
<p>So anyways I didnt find many legal cases, but I thought maybe the problems google had with their image search was a fairly good match. They were embedding the fulsize images in their search results, now they dont, and they allow you to see the image in its original context. I assume this was for legal reasons, and things like whether it was a thumbnail or the full image seemed to be important. So Im presuming the same is true for video, we just need someone to actually have a court case to act as an important lesson for others.</p>
<p>The video skin seems quite intrusive but is it really any different to embedding video in a blog that has some google ads on the same page?</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson West</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/heavys-husky-network-puts-ads-on-anything/#comment-449362</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jackson West]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just to clarify, Charles, the ad wraps around an embed, so the content is never hosted on Heavy&#039;s servers.  The situation I describe of automatically placing embedded clips on a blog is simply a hypothetical one.

Certainly, as Mr. Street seems to be suggesting, creators could also do this for their own sites.  My concern is enabling the less scrupulous.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, Charles, the ad wraps around an embed, so the content is never hosted on Heavy&#8217;s servers.  The situation I describe of automatically placing embedded clips on a blog is simply a hypothetical one.</p>
<p>Certainly, as Mr. Street seems to be suggesting, creators could also do this for their own sites.  My concern is enabling the less scrupulous.</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/heavys-husky-network-puts-ads-on-anything/#comment-449361</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heavy is weak.. i can&#039;t believe that they are pulling RSS content onto the site and generating revenue. Miro pulls RSS feeds, but they do not try to monetize traffic by promoting News Corp hollywood films. So, anyone could upload a producer&#039;s content to Heavy and make money for months before the owner finds out.. sounds like Heavy is going to get some serious lawsuits very soon. The DMCA does not shelter this level of flagrant disrespect and poor business practices.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heavy is weak.. i can&#8217;t believe that they are pulling RSS content onto the site and generating revenue. Miro pulls RSS feeds, but they do not try to monetize traffic by promoting News Corp hollywood films. So, anyone could upload a producer&#8217;s content to Heavy and make money for months before the owner finds out.. sounds like Heavy is going to get some serious lawsuits very soon. The DMCA does not shelter this level of flagrant disrespect and poor business practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Street</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/heavys-husky-network-puts-ads-on-anything/#comment-449360</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Street]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well Mr. Jackson West, you can bet your reserved copy of Madden 08 that I will be checking this puppy out.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Mr. Jackson West, you can bet your reserved copy of Madden 08 that I will be checking this puppy out.</p>
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