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	<title>Comments on: FSF Urges Google to Kill Flash</title>
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		<title>By: Pau</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481360</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pau]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;This smells like internet marketing to me. Even the headline &quot;Kill Flash&quot; is sensationalized. I wonder who Janko works for--whether he is in the Apple camp or to what degree he wants to attract new readers through hot topics such as this one. Bottom line is that Flash is not going to be killed, neither is Silverlight, etc. That&#039;s not the way the real world works or moves. One silly device such as an iPad will transform the world to the degree that anyone may think. It&#039;s Both /And, not Either / Or.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This smells like internet marketing to me. Even the headline &#8220;Kill Flash&#8221; is sensationalized. I wonder who Janko works for&#8211;whether he is in the Apple camp or to what degree he wants to attract new readers through hot topics such as this one. Bottom line is that Flash is not going to be killed, neither is Silverlight, etc. That&#8217;s not the way the real world works or moves. One silly device such as an iPad will transform the world to the degree that anyone may think. It&#8217;s Both /And, not Either / Or.</p>
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		<title>By: Theora Founder: WebM Project is &#8216;Wonderful&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481359</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theora Founder: WebM Project is &#8216;Wonderful&#8217;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 19:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] the obvious exception of Mozilla. There was no shout-out from the Free Software Foundation, who had urged Google to open source the codec earlier this year to kill [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the obvious exception of Mozilla. There was no shout-out from the Free Software Foundation, who had urged Google to open source the codec earlier this year to kill [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Where to Watch Google i/O Online</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481358</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Where to Watch Google i/O Online]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 00:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] since it went (color),&#8221; and the Free Software Foundation predicted earlier this year that open sourcing VP8 could kill Adobe&#8217;s Flash. In other words: It&#8217;s history in the making &#8212; at least for Google [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] since it went (color),&#8221; and the Free Software Foundation predicted earlier this year that open sourcing VP8 could kill Adobe&#8217;s Flash. In other words: It&#8217;s history in the making &#8212; at least for Google [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481357</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 07:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Have you ever tried making an even remotely complex piece of animation in svg or canvas? Guess not!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever tried making an even remotely complex piece of animation in svg or canvas? Guess not!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481356</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Fail troll is fail.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fail troll is fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Longpoke</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481355</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Longpoke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 01:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Wow... So many morons here. First of all, even if Flash &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; open source, it would still be garbage. Please go look at some HTML 5 content and find something in Flash that is half as good as this:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://jilion.com/sublime/video
http://www.craftymind.com/factory/html5video/CanvasVideo.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Adobe&#039;s implementations of flash have a constant stream of critical risk vulnerabilities, which 99.9% of people use, which is why Flash should just be dumped alltogether, even if it was completely open; nobody would switch to the open versions of Flash because either they don&#039;t know how or the open versions aren&#039;t as &quot;good&quot;, as Adobe can just add new features when they feel like it and pay people to develope their proprietary player.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Furthermore, Flash is just a stitch that you throw on the browser, dictated by some idiots who don&#039;t know one thing about web technology. HTML 5 was created by the people who develop web standards, to be &lt;em&gt;fully integrated&lt;/em&gt;. I think I trust them much more, and it already shows that HTML5 media is far superior to the garbage that is Flash.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Flash is known for being a slow, bloated, unstable, disgustingly ugly piece of trash. It is far too late, it can never be fixed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are open implementations of Flash, but they are all crap, nobody really gives one crap about making them better anyways, and they shouldn&#039;t because HTML5 media is here weather you like it or not. Your only alternative is to never update your browser for HTML5 compliance, and let it rot in hell because nobody wants some unstandardized piece of crap that doesn&#039;t work on any site.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Flash is the cancer of the internet.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; So many morons here. First of all, even if Flash <em>was</em> open source, it would still be garbage. Please go look at some HTML 5 content and find something in Flash that is half as good as this:</p>
<p><a href="http://jilion.com/sublime/video" rel="nofollow">http://jilion.com/sublime/video</a><br />
<a href="http://www.craftymind.com/factory/html5video/CanvasVideo.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.craftymind.com/factory/html5video/CanvasVideo.html</a></p>
<p>Adobe&#8217;s implementations of flash have a constant stream of critical risk vulnerabilities, which 99.9% of people use, which is why Flash should just be dumped alltogether, even if it was completely open; nobody would switch to the open versions of Flash because either they don&#8217;t know how or the open versions aren&#8217;t as &#8220;good&#8221;, as Adobe can just add new features when they feel like it and pay people to develope their proprietary player.</p>
<p>Furthermore, Flash is just a stitch that you throw on the browser, dictated by some idiots who don&#8217;t know one thing about web technology. HTML 5 was created by the people who develop web standards, to be <em>fully integrated</em>. I think I trust them much more, and it already shows that HTML5 media is far superior to the garbage that is Flash.</p>
<p>Flash is known for being a slow, bloated, unstable, disgustingly ugly piece of trash. It is far too late, it can never be fixed.</p>
<p>There are open implementations of Flash, but they are all crap, nobody really gives one crap about making them better anyways, and they shouldn&#8217;t because HTML5 media is here weather you like it or not. Your only alternative is to never update your browser for HTML5 compliance, and let it rot in hell because nobody wants some unstandardized piece of crap that doesn&#8217;t work on any site.</p>
<p>Flash is the cancer of the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Weekend Poll: With VP8 Open Source, Who Will Lose Out?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481354</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Weekend Poll: With VP8 Open Source, Who Will Lose Out?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] opinions out there on what this actually means. Will VP8 become the codec of choice on YouTube, delivering a huge blow to Adobe? Will Flash incorporate VP8, strengthening its position against HTML5? How will Apple react once [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] opinions out there on what this actually means. Will VP8 become the codec of choice on YouTube, delivering a huge blow to Adobe? Will Flash incorporate VP8, strengthening its position against HTML5? How will Apple react once [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ajaxian &#187; Google to open source On2 VP8 codec at Google I/O?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481353</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ajaxian &#187; Google to open source On2 VP8 codec at Google I/O?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] is what folks like the FSF begged Google for when the On2 acquisition was happening. Now we may have our [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481352</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Okay then:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What issues are you getting in IE you don&#039;t get in FF (and vice-versa)?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In my experience you get the same results across OSs too, with the exception of a small set of very new features (such as hardware acceleration)...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Besides &quot;speed&quot; what in your mind differs across operating systems?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay then:</p>
<p>What issues are you getting in IE you don&#8217;t get in FF (and vice-versa)?</p>
<p>In my experience you get the same results across OSs too, with the exception of a small set of very new features (such as hardware acceleration)&#8230;</p>
<p>Besides &#8220;speed&#8221; what in your mind differs across operating systems?</p>
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		<title>By: Kreso</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481351</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kreso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;so why i have different issues with some flash apps in IE and Firefox ( the versions of player is the same) , if there is &quot;essentialy&quot; no difference in implementation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;ok, the api is consistent, but the resulting interpretation of swf in flash player across different platforms isn&#039;t. i&#039;m stating this as a user not a developer. if i install flash player on linux or mac i expect the same results as in windows.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;so please don&#039;t call me a liar.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Flash is a great tool, but until we get the same functionality acros platforms it just fails. and fails bad.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so why i have different issues with some flash apps in IE and Firefox ( the versions of player is the same) , if there is &#8220;essentialy&#8221; no difference in implementation.</p>
<p>ok, the api is consistent, but the resulting interpretation of swf in flash player across different platforms isn&#8217;t. i&#8217;m stating this as a user not a developer. if i install flash player on linux or mac i expect the same results as in windows.</p>
<p>so please don&#8217;t call me a liar.</p>
<p>Flash is a great tool, but until we get the same functionality acros platforms it just fails. and fails bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481350</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The IE + Moz plugins are essentially the same machine code. You&#039;re such a liar it hurts.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for the DHTML comparison. Another outright lie. The FP10 API is ubiquitous. As is FP9, FP8, FP7... I think you get the point.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Stop making things up about a technology you clearly don&#039;t understand.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IE + Moz plugins are essentially the same machine code. You&#8217;re such a liar it hurts.</p>
<p>As for the DHTML comparison. Another outright lie. The FP10 API is ubiquitous. As is FP9, FP8, FP7&#8230; I think you get the point.</p>
<p>Stop making things up about a technology you clearly don&#8217;t understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Kreso</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481349</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kreso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Have you ever tries flash player on different platforms. it just doesn&#039;t work, and has the same problems as browsers with DHTML.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;flash player on linux or mac isn&#039;t even close to the player on windows ( to say that activex version and mozilla version also differes )&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever tries flash player on different platforms. it just doesn&#8217;t work, and has the same problems as browsers with DHTML.</p>
<p>flash player on linux or mac isn&#8217;t even close to the player on windows ( to say that activex version and mozilla version also differes )</p>
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		<title>By: _mark</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481348</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[_mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;HTML5 better than Flash is a myth folks.. http://vimeo.com/10553088&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you watch towads the end of the video on the Android HTML5 animation framerate is like 3 - 12 Frames Per Second. Pathetic. While Flash 10.1 is 28-30 FPS and looks pretty normal. I benchmarked HTML5/JS VS. FLASH/AS animations myself using an animated cloth simulations and came up with very similar results about 2 months ago.. HTML5 and Javascript is worse than Flash and Actionscript in chewing up CPU AND MEMORY!! It&#039;s what I suspected. HTML5/JS beats flash only when the animated particles / spites or physics crunching is VERY LITE.. when it is intense (lots of stuff going on at once) Flash is FAR SUPERIOR!!! It&#039;s a fact.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HTML5 better than Flash is a myth folks.. <a href="http://vimeo.com/10553088" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/10553088</a></p>
<p>If you watch towads the end of the video on the Android HTML5 animation framerate is like 3 &#8211; 12 Frames Per Second. Pathetic. While Flash 10.1 is 28-30 FPS and looks pretty normal. I benchmarked HTML5/JS VS. FLASH/AS animations myself using an animated cloth simulations and came up with very similar results about 2 months ago.. HTML5 and Javascript is worse than Flash and Actionscript in chewing up CPU AND MEMORY!! It&#8217;s what I suspected. HTML5/JS beats flash only when the animated particles / spites or physics crunching is VERY LITE.. when it is intense (lots of stuff going on at once) Flash is FAR SUPERIOR!!! It&#8217;s a fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481347</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Here you go @hahah. Ming (http://www.libming.org/). An open source tool to create Flash files using C and various other languages, without any software from Adobe - cracked or otherwise.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are other tools out there. This is just one I know of.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here you go @hahah. Ming (<a href="http://www.libming.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.libming.org/</a>). An open source tool to create Flash files using C and various other languages, without any software from Adobe &#8211; cracked or otherwise.</p>
<p>There are other tools out there. This is just one I know of.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481346</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;@DocNasty You obviously aren&#039;t aware that it is entirely possible to create Flash content without any commercial software from Adobe or anyone else.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Otherwise I completely agree. Apple doesn&#039;t want it because it won&#039;t make them money and I would dump it myself if I didn&#039;t have a need for it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DocNasty You obviously aren&#8217;t aware that it is entirely possible to create Flash content without any commercial software from Adobe or anyone else.</p>
<p>Otherwise I completely agree. Apple doesn&#8217;t want it because it won&#8217;t make them money and I would dump it myself if I didn&#8217;t have a need for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Google to Open-source VP8 for HTML5 Video &#171; urban-listening</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/fsf-urges-google-to-kill-flash/#comment-481345</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google to Open-source VP8 for HTML5 Video &#171; urban-listening]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] intensified after the deal closed. The acquisition even led the Free Software Foundation (FSF) to urge Google to kill Flash by open-sourcing the VP8 [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] intensified after the deal closed. The acquisition even led the Free Software Foundation (FSF) to urge Google to kill Flash by open-sourcing the VP8 [...]</p>
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