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		<title>By: Film Maker Daily - Today Top Blog Posts on Film Making - Powered by SocialRank</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 08:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#187; Wallstrip Case Study: Delivering content where it is consumed - Startup Review Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Ad Startups Turn Away from User Generated Video Newteevee – Discussion of the value of professionally-produced video to advertisers. Doesn’t mention Wallstrip, but relevant nonetheless. [...]
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		<title>By: Nigel Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nigel Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vquence video search, sampling and socialisation tool has now had its public beta release!  Down the track it will let UCC and professional content be monetised...in the interim have a play!
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s payback time: Monetizing User Generated Content</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is reporting in their study. Google is one of the few trying to make money with UGC, but this, Liz Gannes is speculating in her article, can have it&#8217;s reason in their latest billion- investment, [...]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is reporting in their study. Google is one of the few trying to make money with UGC, but this, Liz Gannes is speculating in her article, can have it&#8217;s reason in their latest billion- investment, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Weeks</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/essay-ad-startups-turn-away-from-user-generated-video/#comment-448069</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Weeks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Liz,

all great points, and I wanted to offer a slightly different perspective in support of UGC AND &quot;professionally produced content&quot; (however this community describes network and other &quot;pro&quot; content creators).

We are embracing all forms of content, including UGC, and Professional &quot;top TV hits, etc&quot;  because we are looking at the holistic consumer.

By looking at an individual consumer as the whole of their various consumption and demands (and habits), our system mirrors actual behavior of real people.  As a longtime reader of Om&#039;s papers (some of which I understand, some I admit that I am still catching up), we embrace the &quot;chunk&quot; theory of content he has long written about.

A &quot;chunk&quot; can be a long-form Network TV show, like Grey&#039;s Anatomy, or it can also be a short consumer created video, or even a consumer created ad, or it can be a highly polished (ok, let&#039;s say &quot;high quality&quot;) from someone like Kara Swisher, for example.  It can also be a music video from a studio or a garage band.  It can be a video of one of Bill Tai&#039;s friends like Pierre Wolf doing an acrobatic move on one of those Kite Surfing rigs on the SF Bay.

In this sense, we collect &quot;all&quot; of the chunks that a consumer will accumulate, view and share, and create a holistic view of the consumer.

This will naturally include a mix of UGC and &quot;hits&quot; (professionally produced content), and whatever comes in between.  Some consumers will be more in one camp than others... through &quot;discovery&quot; and our &quot;community&quot; effect, lots of people who fall mostly in one camp will organically be introduced to some new forms of content... just as it is in &quot;real life&quot; at the water cooler and in the blogosphere &quot;hey did you see the new Will Farrell / Pearl video?&quot;)....

Our approach allows us to do a lot of things that advertisers and publishers can&#039;t do today, because they are stuck on what &quot;the&quot; content category is....(&quot;if it&#039;s UGC, then it falls into this targeting and CPM/CPA formula...&quot;

Because our system predicts behavior of an individual consumer in and around a &quot;set&quot; of content chunks (in addition to the usual baked-in contextual and behavioral data sets), we can boost CPMs and CPA rates of both types of content (UGC and Pro)....

What the advertisers want is access to The consumer, not access to the content.  Think of the drill bit.  Nobody wants a drill bit when they buy one.  They only want a hole.

We provide the hole.   Well, not really.  We provide data that allows the advertiser and the publisher to work together to predict which consumers, around which bundles of content will act in ways that make the advertiser happy (high response and outcome ratios), the publisher happy (higher CPMs and CPA rates due to more defensible targeting and audited outcomes ratings) and consumers happy (more control of their content, more relevant and welcomed ads).

Until others join us in approaching consumers holistically, the divide between Online Video that is &quot;pro&quot; (or Network) and UGC will widen to reflect the disparity between today&#039;s CPMs of Network TV and UGC, and the poor folks trying to earn a living on thirty cents to seven dollars per CPM (those are real ranges) won&#039;t be able to make it.   That&#039;s why you&#039;ve noticed the big sea-change in the board room of these start-ups... the VCs are saying &quot;follow the money&quot; but they are only looking at CATEGORY CPMs and CPAs, not the holistic consumer.  That&#039;s the miss.   We fix this.

So unless they join us in this approach these great start-ups that were founded to address UGC run the risk of drifting into hobbyist and lifestyle or enthusiast portals, and the networks will bleed right over to Online with their CPMS and, incidentally, their tendency towards hedgemony, intact. They can&#039;t help it--it&#039;s in their DNA.  They really, honestly, belive that they know what&#039;s best for us.  Anyone familar with how cable and satellite companies sell ad time will understand that they &quot;package&quot; their hit shows with their long-tail or &quot;not popular&quot; (euphamism for loser) shows.  Buyers are stuck with the bundle.  We hope that the Web breaks that concept into bits forever.

Certainly EyeTMedia is hoping to help advertisers and publishers get out of that old model and out of those old &quot;broadcast&quot; traps that look at chunks, not at the holistic consumer.

For example, I am happy for The Platform team but guarded about what Comcast has in mind, as far as openness and embracing the total consumer.

But that&#039;s another rant.

Keep up the great work.

There is yet hope to monetize Online Video!  All of it.

Stay Tuned!

Matt Weeks
Founder &amp; CEO
EyeTMedia
www.eyetmedia.com
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz,</p>
<p>all great points, and I wanted to offer a slightly different perspective in support of UGC AND &#8220;professionally produced content&#8221; (however this community describes network and other &#8220;pro&#8221; content creators).</p>
<p>We are embracing all forms of content, including UGC, and Professional &#8220;top TV hits, etc&#8221;  because we are looking at the holistic consumer.</p>
<p>By looking at an individual consumer as the whole of their various consumption and demands (and habits), our system mirrors actual behavior of real people.  As a longtime reader of Om&#8217;s papers (some of which I understand, some I admit that I am still catching up), we embrace the &#8220;chunk&#8221; theory of content he has long written about.</p>
<p>A &#8220;chunk&#8221; can be a long-form Network TV show, like Grey&#8217;s Anatomy, or it can also be a short consumer created video, or even a consumer created ad, or it can be a highly polished (ok, let&#8217;s say &#8220;high quality&#8221;) from someone like Kara Swisher, for example.  It can also be a music video from a studio or a garage band.  It can be a video of one of Bill Tai&#8217;s friends like Pierre Wolf doing an acrobatic move on one of those Kite Surfing rigs on the SF Bay.</p>
<p>In this sense, we collect &#8220;all&#8221; of the chunks that a consumer will accumulate, view and share, and create a holistic view of the consumer.</p>
<p>This will naturally include a mix of UGC and &#8220;hits&#8221; (professionally produced content), and whatever comes in between.  Some consumers will be more in one camp than others&#8230; through &#8220;discovery&#8221; and our &#8220;community&#8221; effect, lots of people who fall mostly in one camp will organically be introduced to some new forms of content&#8230; just as it is in &#8220;real life&#8221; at the water cooler and in the blogosphere &#8220;hey did you see the new Will Farrell / Pearl video?&#8221;)&#8230;.</p>
<p>Our approach allows us to do a lot of things that advertisers and publishers can&#8217;t do today, because they are stuck on what &#8220;the&#8221; content category is&#8230;.(&#8220;if it&#8217;s UGC, then it falls into this targeting and CPM/CPA formula&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Because our system predicts behavior of an individual consumer in and around a &#8220;set&#8221; of content chunks (in addition to the usual baked-in contextual and behavioral data sets), we can boost CPMs and CPA rates of both types of content (UGC and Pro)&#8230;.</p>
<p>What the advertisers want is access to The consumer, not access to the content.  Think of the drill bit.  Nobody wants a drill bit when they buy one.  They only want a hole.</p>
<p>We provide the hole.   Well, not really.  We provide data that allows the advertiser and the publisher to work together to predict which consumers, around which bundles of content will act in ways that make the advertiser happy (high response and outcome ratios), the publisher happy (higher CPMs and CPA rates due to more defensible targeting and audited outcomes ratings) and consumers happy (more control of their content, more relevant and welcomed ads).</p>
<p>Until others join us in approaching consumers holistically, the divide between Online Video that is &#8220;pro&#8221; (or Network) and UGC will widen to reflect the disparity between today&#8217;s CPMs of Network TV and UGC, and the poor folks trying to earn a living on thirty cents to seven dollars per CPM (those are real ranges) won&#8217;t be able to make it.   That&#8217;s why you&#8217;ve noticed the big sea-change in the board room of these start-ups&#8230; the VCs are saying &#8220;follow the money&#8221; but they are only looking at CATEGORY CPMs and CPAs, not the holistic consumer.  That&#8217;s the miss.   We fix this.</p>
<p>So unless they join us in this approach these great start-ups that were founded to address UGC run the risk of drifting into hobbyist and lifestyle or enthusiast portals, and the networks will bleed right over to Online with their CPMS and, incidentally, their tendency towards hedgemony, intact. They can&#8217;t help it&#8211;it&#8217;s in their DNA.  They really, honestly, belive that they know what&#8217;s best for us.  Anyone familar with how cable and satellite companies sell ad time will understand that they &#8220;package&#8221; their hit shows with their long-tail or &#8220;not popular&#8221; (euphamism for loser) shows.  Buyers are stuck with the bundle.  We hope that the Web breaks that concept into bits forever.</p>
<p>Certainly EyeTMedia is hoping to help advertisers and publishers get out of that old model and out of those old &#8220;broadcast&#8221; traps that look at chunks, not at the holistic consumer.</p>
<p>For example, I am happy for The Platform team but guarded about what Comcast has in mind, as far as openness and embracing the total consumer.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s another rant.</p>
<p>Keep up the great work.</p>
<p>There is yet hope to monetize Online Video!  All of it.</p>
<p>Stay Tuned!</p>
<p>Matt Weeks<br />
Founder &amp; CEO<br />
EyeTMedia<br />
<a href="http://www.eyetmedia.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.eyetmedia.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: NewTeeVee UGTV Draws an Old Media Crowd &#171;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Representatives from Disney/ABC, NBC, CBS, MTV, and the BBC joined new media companies including Heavy Joost and blip.tv in a discussion over the disrupted industry that is television and where new media is taking us. Questions abound as to how UGC will be monetized &#8212; especially since it seems ad companies are most interested in servicing professional video. [...]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Representatives from Disney/ABC, NBC, CBS, MTV, and the BBC joined new media companies including Heavy Joost and blip.tv in a discussion over the disrupted industry that is television and where new media is taking us. Questions abound as to how UGC will be monetized &#8212; especially since it seems ad companies are most interested in servicing professional video. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A. L. Friedman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. L. Friedman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s a lack of ambition as much as it&#039;s following the money.  I think Frank has the right idea; even if we don&#039;t know exactly what the old TV viewers are doing online, it&#039;s safe to assume they&#039;re going to their PC&#039;s instead.  And the networks are finally putting two and two together and embracing online video, both by putting their content online and experimenting with user-generated videos.  Smaller UGC sites tied into big media don&#039;t need to monetize UGC because their revenues will come elsewhere.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s a lack of ambition as much as it&#8217;s following the money.  I think Frank has the right idea; even if we don&#8217;t know exactly what the old TV viewers are doing online, it&#8217;s safe to assume they&#8217;re going to their PC&#8217;s instead.  And the networks are finally putting two and two together and embracing online video, both by putting their content online and experimenting with user-generated videos.  Smaller UGC sites tied into big media don&#8217;t need to monetize UGC because their revenues will come elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: zeddd</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: the VIDEOEGG comments -- it is because they are doing MORE than technology and pre-roll that they look like a winner.  They are truly venturing into being a &quot;network&quot; vis a vis coordinating sponsorships for professional (or prosumer, or whatever you call it) content, as they did with THE BURG.

Basically, they are adding the human-touch factor to fulfill the overall functions required by a network (sorry, but, technology will not be the final factor in success).

Regardless as to what technology they have (who cares if they hire an Editor to glue ads to content, which was done, up until 2005 by those who preceded the current crop of players in the market), they will have advertiser relationships and an ad inventory they can push across the tail of UGC.

Too bad the other &quot;networks&quot; aren&#039;t as forward thinking.

If anyone remembers VIDEOEGG (when they were in Rhode Island, or Connecticut?), they just had a clever transcode system, and they weren&#039;t competing with the emerging networks like BRIGHTCOVE, REVVER, YOUTUBE, etc.


I have no relationship with VideoEgg, and, don&#039;t even run any content through them (yet).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the VIDEOEGG comments &#8212; it is because they are doing MORE than technology and pre-roll that they look like a winner.  They are truly venturing into being a &#8220;network&#8221; vis a vis coordinating sponsorships for professional (or prosumer, or whatever you call it) content, as they did with THE BURG.</p>
<p>Basically, they are adding the human-touch factor to fulfill the overall functions required by a network (sorry, but, technology will not be the final factor in success).</p>
<p>Regardless as to what technology they have (who cares if they hire an Editor to glue ads to content, which was done, up until 2005 by those who preceded the current crop of players in the market), they will have advertiser relationships and an ad inventory they can push across the tail of UGC.</p>
<p>Too bad the other &#8220;networks&#8221; aren&#8217;t as forward thinking.</p>
<p>If anyone remembers VIDEOEGG (when they were in Rhode Island, or Connecticut?), they just had a clever transcode system, and they weren&#8217;t competing with the emerging networks like BRIGHTCOVE, REVVER, YOUTUBE, etc.</p>
<p>I have no relationship with VideoEgg, and, don&#8217;t even run any content through them (yet).</p>
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		<title>By: How to monetize UGC video &#171; Lightspeed Venture Partners Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How to monetize UGC video &#171; Lightspeed Venture Partners Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 05:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 28, 2007 Posted by jeremyliew in Uncategorized. trackback  Over at NewTeeVee, Liz Gaines says that Ad startups are turning away from user generated video. She says that all of the video ad startups that she is interviewing these days are focusing on [...]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 28, 2007 Posted by jeremyliew in Uncategorized. trackback  Over at NewTeeVee, Liz Gaines says that Ad startups are turning away from user generated video. She says that all of the video ad startups that she is interviewing these days are focusing on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Gannes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz Gannes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[VideoEgg was previously using BrightRoll (which was mentioned in the article) for ads but I&#039;d hope they&#039;ve built their own thing by now. You&#039;re right, I should check in with them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VideoEgg was previously using BrightRoll (which was mentioned in the article) for ads but I&#8217;d hope they&#8217;ve built their own thing by now. You&#8217;re right, I should check in with them.</p>
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