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	<title>Comments on: Direct the New Modest Mouse Video</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;concerning your statement - &quot;I’ve been looking at some of these user-generated content contests with a more critical eye of late&quot;  not related to video but on the photography art side I saw a great little promotion concept called a million little pictures put on by the http://www.arthousecoop.com or http://www.amillionlittlepictures.com . Im also on a development team working on a national Internet broadcasting network for developing net video user content into cash or national ad revenue. There will soon be a contest related to that launch (ummm dont know exactly when soon is but can keep anyone interested posted.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;as far as owning rights... many moons ago I was involved in producing a state wide battle of the bands the way we use to do it offline and there were TV production issue with the same type of issues.... the same thing here...whoever distributes the work usually ends up with the lion share of control.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>concerning your statement &#8211; &#8220;I’ve been looking at some of these user-generated content contests with a more critical eye of late&#8221;  not related to video but on the photography art side I saw a great little promotion concept called a million little pictures put on by the <a href="http://www.arthousecoop.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.arthousecoop.com</a> or <a href="http://www.amillionlittlepictures.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.amillionlittlepictures.com</a> . Im also on a development team working on a national Internet broadcasting network for developing net video user content into cash or national ad revenue. There will soon be a contest related to that launch (ummm dont know exactly when soon is but can keep anyone interested posted.)</p>
<p>as far as owning rights&#8230; many moons ago I was involved in producing a state wide battle of the bands the way we use to do it offline and there were TV production issue with the same type of issues&#8230;. the same thing here&#8230;whoever distributes the work usually ends up with the lion share of control.</p>
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		<title>By: NewTeeVee &#187; Vlog Deathmatch Challenge: Anything Goes</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/direct-the-new-modest-mouse-video/#comment-446126</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NewTeeVee &#187; Vlog Deathmatch Challenge: Anything Goes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 11:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] by Harvey Danger&#8221; video by Amanda Lynferri and friends at Connected Ventures. And unlike the recent spate of Modest Mouse contests, you will actually own whatever you [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by Harvey Danger&#8221; video by Amanda Lynferri and friends at Connected Ventures. And unlike the recent spate of Modest Mouse contests, you will actually own whatever you [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NewTeeVee &#187; Brave New World of Indentured Surf-itude</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/direct-the-new-modest-mouse-video/#comment-446127</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NewTeeVee &#187; Brave New World of Indentured Surf-itude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] I&#8217;m becoming disenchanted with professional publishers who use the Web as a focus group to offset production costs. We&#8217;ve getting to the point where audience interaction is less novelty and more [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m becoming disenchanted with professional publishers who use the Web as a focus group to offset production costs. We&#8217;ve getting to the point where audience interaction is less novelty and more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall  Kirkpatrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/direct-the-new-modest-mouse-video/#comment-446128</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marshall  Kirkpatrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 01:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Nice Portland shot!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice Portland shot!</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson West</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/direct-the-new-modest-mouse-video/#comment-446129</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jackson West]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 21:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Glad we bent you back into shape, Schlomo.  My problem is that they aren&#039;t buying the product at all -- they&#039;re just taking it.  As pointed out here on NewTeeVee, the cellphone video that was uploaded to CNN&#039;s I-Report got 2 million views, and I doubt the &quot;citizen journalist&quot; got even the regular freelance rate for his footage.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad we bent you back into shape, Schlomo.  My problem is that they aren&#8217;t buying the product at all &#8212; they&#8217;re just taking it.  As pointed out here on NewTeeVee, the cellphone video that was uploaded to CNN&#8217;s I-Report got 2 million views, and I doubt the &#8220;citizen journalist&#8221; got even the regular freelance rate for his footage.</p>
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		<title>By: schlomo rabinowitz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/direct-the-new-modest-mouse-video/#comment-446130</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[schlomo rabinowitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 19:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;You are both right.  Now that I&#039;ve finished my coffee, I&#039;m back on the cynic train:)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Really though, its true.  Just like how television news divisions are hyping up citizen journalism (because of their shrinking budgets), so are every other part of MSM trying to have the public do the heavy lifting-- then buying the product!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are both right.  Now that I&#8217;ve finished my coffee, I&#8217;m back on the cynic train:)</p>
<p>Really though, its true.  Just like how television news divisions are hyping up citizen journalism (because of their shrinking budgets), so are every other part of MSM trying to have the public do the heavy lifting&#8211; then buying the product!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bryant</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/direct-the-new-modest-mouse-video/#comment-446132</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 19:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I gotta go with Jackson on this one. This sort of UGC opportunism is simply a way for record labels to shift the cost of production onto amateurs. While the contests may be good for an up-and-coming filmmaker, the danger is that this process will become metastastized throughout media.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To wit, I recently spoke with a successful comedian here in New York about this problem. She was about to sign a TV pilot deal with a network when the network did an about face and asked her to post her material online on her own web site as a &quot;trial run.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s an unfortunately blurry line between using the Web for inspiration and talent, and using it as a slave labor farm team to offset production costs and increase profits.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta go with Jackson on this one. This sort of UGC opportunism is simply a way for record labels to shift the cost of production onto amateurs. While the contests may be good for an up-and-coming filmmaker, the danger is that this process will become metastastized throughout media.</p>
<p>To wit, I recently spoke with a successful comedian here in New York about this problem. She was about to sign a TV pilot deal with a network when the network did an about face and asked her to post her material online on her own web site as a &#8220;trial run.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an unfortunately blurry line between using the Web for inspiration and talent, and using it as a slave labor farm team to offset production costs and increase profits.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson West</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/direct-the-new-modest-mouse-video/#comment-446131</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jackson West]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 19:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;While that is certainly an example, considering the rights terms required of submitted materials and the technical skill and software tools necessary to do the compositing, I wonder how many truefans will really be able to compete.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is geared toward student filmmakers, so there&#039;s that.  But now it turns out there&#039;s &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reelpopblog.com/2007/04/modest_proposal.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Another Freakin&#039; Green Screen Contest&lt;/a&gt;&quot; starring Modest Mouse, excuse me for being a bit cynical.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They just put out their first major label release, but they can&#039;t afford to hire an actual filmmaker?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While that is certainly an example, considering the rights terms required of submitted materials and the technical skill and software tools necessary to do the compositing, I wonder how many truefans will really be able to compete.</p>
<p>It is geared toward student filmmakers, so there&#8217;s that.  But now it turns out there&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://www.reelpopblog.com/2007/04/modest_proposal.html" rel="nofollow">Another Freakin&#8217; Green Screen Contest</a>&#8221; starring Modest Mouse, excuse me for being a bit cynical.</p>
<p>They just put out their first major label release, but they can&#8217;t afford to hire an actual filmmaker?</p>
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		<title>By: schlomo rabinowitz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/direct-the-new-modest-mouse-video/#comment-446133</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[schlomo rabinowitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m with you in having a skeptical eye on this sort of contest, but then I think about the 15yr old falling in love with Modest Mouse (or whoever) and getting the opportunity to create stuff for their favorite band- how cool is that?!?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Optimist View is that after going through all of this work for the band, that the 15yr old gets inspired to keep creating stuffs for themselves.  It may be a jumpstart to someone becoming a powerful creator of video on the Interwebs.  And that&#039;s pretty darn cool.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you in having a skeptical eye on this sort of contest, but then I think about the 15yr old falling in love with Modest Mouse (or whoever) and getting the opportunity to create stuff for their favorite band- how cool is that?!?</p>
<p>The Optimist View is that after going through all of this work for the band, that the 15yr old gets inspired to keep creating stuffs for themselves.  It may be a jumpstart to someone becoming a powerful creator of video on the Interwebs.  And that&#8217;s pretty darn cool.</p>
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