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		<title>By: comScore Reinstates YuMe, for Now &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/comscore-downgrades-yume/#comment-461164</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[comScore Reinstates YuMe, for Now &#171; NewTeeVee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] a deal to sell video ads on Microsoft&#8217;s unsold inventory), the web measurement firm had unceremoniously downgraded YuMe to No. 32, reordering its own press release and providing no comment on the matter until we [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a deal to sell video ads on Microsoft&#8217;s unsold inventory), the web measurement firm had unceremoniously downgraded YuMe to No. 32, reordering its own press release and providing no comment on the matter until we [...]</p>
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		<title>By: YuMe Replaces CEO &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/comscore-downgrades-yume/#comment-461163</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[YuMe Replaces CEO &#171; NewTeeVee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Replaces&#160;CEO  YuMe, the video advertising network that was recently involved in controversy with comScore over just how big it is, has brought in a new CEO, according to an email from a company [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Replaces&nbsp;CEO  YuMe, the video advertising network that was recently involved in controversy with comScore over just how big it is, has brought in a new CEO, according to an email from a company [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mike ruiz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/comscore-downgrades-yume/#comment-461162</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mike ruiz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Comscore is antiquated, to say the least, and their incentives are perverse. I doubt they would have issued the retraction if ppl didnt point out the inaccuracies b/c Yume is probably paying Comscore.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It seems like yume is being disengenous in trying to make their ad network look like bigger than it actually is. Thedigi is right in that Yume is essentially counting all uniques for every publisher, even though the publisher might only have videos on 5% of their pages and only 10% of uniques see their video ads. It&#039;s like Pepsi saying their product gets seen by every single shopper who walks into Walmart, even though Pepsi cans are only on a portion of a shelf where a small fraction of ppl see them (no offense, Pepsi). I can see why yume wants to lie about their size though. It&#039;s a smokescreen to advertisers b/c advertisers tend to buy scale and reach first. In this case, they got burned.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comscore is antiquated, to say the least, and their incentives are perverse. I doubt they would have issued the retraction if ppl didnt point out the inaccuracies b/c Yume is probably paying Comscore.</p>
<p>It seems like yume is being disengenous in trying to make their ad network look like bigger than it actually is. Thedigi is right in that Yume is essentially counting all uniques for every publisher, even though the publisher might only have videos on 5% of their pages and only 10% of uniques see their video ads. It&#8217;s like Pepsi saying their product gets seen by every single shopper who walks into Walmart, even though Pepsi cans are only on a portion of a shelf where a small fraction of ppl see them (no offense, Pepsi). I can see why yume wants to lie about their size though. It&#8217;s a smokescreen to advertisers b/c advertisers tend to buy scale and reach first. In this case, they got burned.</p>
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		<title>By: Thedigi Talhobo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/comscore-downgrades-yume/#comment-461161</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thedigi Talhobo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Please, thats not the issue. comScore gets its data from the publishers. They are comScore clients. The publishers know how many unique visitors they have every month. They get ad data directly from ad servers. There&#039;s nothing to investigate. Its like counting how many people walk through a door into a store.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I do like your blog, though. I&#039;ve been very interested in that whole space for quite a while (www.thedigitalhobo.com)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, thats not the issue. comScore gets its data from the publishers. They are comScore clients. The publishers know how many unique visitors they have every month. They get ad data directly from ad servers. There&#8217;s nothing to investigate. Its like counting how many people walk through a door into a store.</p>
<p>I do like your blog, though. I&#8217;ve been very interested in that whole space for quite a while (www.thedigitalhobo.com)</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Topolski</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/comscore-downgrades-yume/#comment-461160</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Where does comScore get its data? Who are these millions of people who have knowingly consented to let comScore spy on their usage?  Why is nobody investigating this?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where does comScore get its data? Who are these millions of people who have knowingly consented to let comScore spy on their usage?  Why is nobody investigating this?</p>
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		<title>By: Thedigi Talhobo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/comscore-downgrades-yume/#comment-461159</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thedigi Talhobo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Liz -&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the clarification. It definitely sounded like you were saying that they &#039;were&#039; serving as many ads.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Pretty stupid move on their part overall. Why would an ad network that doesn&#039;t sell display advertising try to compete (on numbers) in a report that has networks that sell banners? Piss poor decision making on their part, and they are upset that it is being handled properly.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;More importantly, though, they STILL haven&#039;t removed the old comScore data from their homepage. Doesn&#039;t look like they are playing very nicely with comScore.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oddly enough, they could have avoided the whole mess by being listed in the proper report. There is a &quot;streams only&quot; report, the comScore VideoMetrix report, which would accurately represent their numbers. They are just picking the wrong battle.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz -</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification. It definitely sounded like you were saying that they &#8216;were&#8217; serving as many ads.</p>
<p>Pretty stupid move on their part overall. Why would an ad network that doesn&#8217;t sell display advertising try to compete (on numbers) in a report that has networks that sell banners? Piss poor decision making on their part, and they are upset that it is being handled properly.</p>
<p>More importantly, though, they STILL haven&#8217;t removed the old comScore data from their homepage. Doesn&#8217;t look like they are playing very nicely with comScore.</p>
<p>Oddly enough, they could have avoided the whole mess by being listed in the proper report. There is a &#8220;streams only&#8221; report, the comScore VideoMetrix report, which would accurately represent their numbers. They are just picking the wrong battle.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Gannes</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/comscore-downgrades-yume/#comment-461158</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz Gannes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Hi Thedigi, perhaps my wording was unclear. I was saying that YuMe doesn&#039;t serve as many ads as those in the top 10.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Thedigi, perhaps my wording was unclear. I was saying that YuMe doesn&#8217;t serve as many ads as those in the top 10.</p>
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		<title>By: Thedigi Talhobo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/comscore-downgrades-yume/#comment-461157</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thedigi Talhobo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Sure there needs to be standardization, but Frank&#039;s suggestion isn&#039;t the right answer.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some networks frequency cap to protect the user experience. The better measure - reach, or potential reach, or available number of streams - are much better measures.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If one network has 250 million streams, but serves a pre-roll in front of every one, you&#039;ve got a problem. If you have 1 billion streams, and serve an ad once in every 4 videos, you&#039;d have the same number of ads served, but a much happier user base.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Liz, if you are correct, and they serve as many ads as those in the Top 10, then they are bombarding their users with ads. And thats not good. I&#039;m guessing they aren&#039;t serving anywhere close to those numbers.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure there needs to be standardization, but Frank&#8217;s suggestion isn&#8217;t the right answer.</p>
<p>Some networks frequency cap to protect the user experience. The better measure &#8211; reach, or potential reach, or available number of streams &#8211; are much better measures.</p>
<p>If one network has 250 million streams, but serves a pre-roll in front of every one, you&#8217;ve got a problem. If you have 1 billion streams, and serve an ad once in every 4 videos, you&#8217;d have the same number of ads served, but a much happier user base.</p>
<p>Liz, if you are correct, and they serve as many ads as those in the Top 10, then they are bombarding their users with ads. And thats not good. I&#8217;m guessing they aren&#8217;t serving anywhere close to those numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Sinton</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/comscore-downgrades-yume/#comment-461156</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Sinton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I agree with Jayant - there needs to be a standard measurement across the ad networks. Shouldn&#039;t it just be # of ad impressions served to # of unique users? Another black eye for comScore.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jayant &#8211; there needs to be a standard measurement across the ad networks. Shouldn&#8217;t it just be # of ad impressions served to # of unique users? Another black eye for comScore.</p>
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