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	<title>Comments on: Azureus Vuze, BitTorrent Losing to Market Leader uTorrent</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;~17k is more than enough to get a representative sample.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That aside, the previous two measurements used swarms og more than 100k peers.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>~17k is more than enough to get a representative sample.</p>
<p>That aside, the previous two measurements used swarms og more than 100k peers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Jonson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Jonson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I hate the name Vuze and the &quot;new&quot; interface. But I hate uTorrent&#039;s interface much more. I am using and will continue to use Vuze with the &quot;old UI&quot; setting until they stop me. At which point I&#039;ll move to another torrent client. I&#039;ll use rTorrent if I have to before I&#039;ll switch to uTorrent.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate the name Vuze and the &#8220;new&#8221; interface. But I hate uTorrent&#8217;s interface much more. I am using and will continue to use Vuze with the &#8220;old UI&#8221; setting until they stop me. At which point I&#8217;ll move to another torrent client. I&#8217;ll use rTorrent if I have to before I&#8217;ll switch to uTorrent.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigfatbball2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bigfatbball2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Only detail not mentionned is that vuze has stopped adding any content to their HD platform for nearly three weeks&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only detail not mentionned is that vuze has stopped adding any content to their HD platform for nearly three weeks</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/azureus-vuze-bittorrent-losing-to-market-leader-utorrent/#comment-476823</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;@Alon - Great point! A sample size of ~17k peers is far too small.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alon &#8211; Great point! A sample size of ~17k peers is far too small.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Quite frankly the TF report feels sensationalistic, as all these &quot;metrics&quot; are based on a sample size of just 17k peers, which is a tiny tiny fraction of the &lt;em&gt;millions&lt;/em&gt; connected at any given moment, and a size so small that a single torrent can significantly skew the results.  I would argue that the tribler folks need to significantly increase their sample size before anyone can argue true statistical significance:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;10361    uTorrent
2449     Azureus&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve seen more peers on a single Lost torrent alone, than in their entire sampling! A 2% change is only a couple hundred peers in this tiny sample, a laughably small number, particularly when you realize that just a single torrent&#039;s peers could skew all of these in the complete opposite direction.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let me know when somebody posts some real numbers, say from a real-world tracker&#039;s point of view, like opentracker, which should have millions of swarm peers to pull metrics from.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite frankly the TF report feels sensationalistic, as all these &#8220;metrics&#8221; are based on a sample size of just 17k peers, which is a tiny tiny fraction of the <em>millions</em> connected at any given moment, and a size so small that a single torrent can significantly skew the results.  I would argue that the tribler folks need to significantly increase their sample size before anyone can argue true statistical significance:</p>
<p>10361    uTorrent<br />
2449     Azureus</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen more peers on a single Lost torrent alone, than in their entire sampling! A 2% change is only a couple hundred peers in this tiny sample, a laughably small number, particularly when you realize that just a single torrent&#8217;s peers could skew all of these in the complete opposite direction.</p>
<p>Let me know when somebody posts some real numbers, say from a real-world tracker&#8217;s point of view, like opentracker, which should have millions of swarm peers to pull metrics from.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/azureus-vuze-bittorrent-losing-to-market-leader-utorrent/#comment-476821</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;@Sam - Yes, BitTorrent Inc. acquired uTorrent in December of 2006.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sam &#8211; Yes, BitTorrent Inc. acquired uTorrent in December of 2006.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/azureus-vuze-bittorrent-losing-to-market-leader-utorrent/#comment-476820</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Isn&#039;t uTorrent owned by BitTorrent?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t uTorrent owned by BitTorrent?</p>
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