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		<title>By: Could Ben Silverman Make Web Video Mainstream?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Could Ben Silverman Make Web Video Mainstream?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] the feat. Sony&#8217;s Crackle has poured millions into producing web shows like The Bannen Way and Angel of Death, and Michael Eisner&#8217;s Vuguru has created series like Prom Queen and Foreign Body. But at the [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the feat. Sony&#8217;s Crackle has poured millions into producing web shows like The Bannen Way and Angel of Death, and Michael Eisner&#8217;s Vuguru has created series like Prom Queen and Foreign Body. But at the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Famous Monsters &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Angel of Death to Screen at Comic-Con</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Famous Monsters &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Angel of Death to Screen at Comic-Con]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] you want to know more about the followers and makers of Angel of Death, check this out.                One Response make a comment &#124; subscribe to [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Is There a Future for Original Web Series?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Is There a Future for Original Web Series?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] old media hook attached to their productions. Crackle brought onboard Ed Brubaker and Zoe Bell for Angel of Death, and told us that it&#8217;s looking to spend more on talent both behind and in front of the camera [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] old media hook attached to their productions. Crackle brought onboard Ed Brubaker and Zoe Bell for Angel of Death, and told us that it&#8217;s looking to spend more on talent both behind and in front of the camera [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Spike TV Brings Ed Brubaker&#8217;s ANGEL OF DEATH Web Series To Cable &#124; Nerd Dads!</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spike TV Brings Ed Brubaker&#8217;s ANGEL OF DEATH Web Series To Cable &#124; Nerd Dads!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] minute movie on July 25th. Apparently, the Zoe Bell starring vehicle has done rather well online, nearing 5 million plays to date, which is incredibly impressive for an episodic, non-name brand series. Something tells me tht Sony [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] minute movie on July 25th. Apparently, the Zoe Bell starring vehicle has done rather well online, nearing 5 million plays to date, which is incredibly impressive for an episodic, non-name brand series. Something tells me tht Sony [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Spike Finds More Content Online, Picks Up Angel of Death</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spike Finds More Content Online, Picks Up Angel of Death]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] debuted in this past March. The ten-part series was a hit online and by last count had generated 4.8 million plays &#8212; a strong showing for a [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Zoë fan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/angel-of-death-keeps-killing-with-47m-views/#comment-471183</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoë fan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&quot;Crackle shut off international views because web series are bought internationally and they would lose money to just give it away.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are only a handful of web series that I am aware of, can you name one that was marketed regionally?  The problem is that the media barrons keep thinking old school and try to apply their DVD region locking and other marketing nonsense to the internet. It doesn&#039;t make sense anymore, at least not online.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My math shows as of this Sunday it just broke 5 million views. Keep in mind other than the Comic Con announcement, there was ZERO promotion for this series outside of Crackle. Just a press release and a few bloggers wrote about it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So perhaps the 5 million views should not be measured against the USA population but just the Crackle membership. So how many members does Crackle have? By looking at a fresh membership number, it seems to be less than 3 million.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are many millions of international Xena fans and many of them know Zoe as Lucy&#039;s stuntwoman, heck Lucy is in the series - yet Sony did not try to cross promote to that fan base. It was idiotic.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Crackle shut off international views because web series are bought internationally and they would lose money to just give it away.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are only a handful of web series that I am aware of, can you name one that was marketed regionally?  The problem is that the media barrons keep thinking old school and try to apply their DVD region locking and other marketing nonsense to the internet. It doesn&#8217;t make sense anymore, at least not online.</p>
<p>My math shows as of this Sunday it just broke 5 million views. Keep in mind other than the Comic Con announcement, there was ZERO promotion for this series outside of Crackle. Just a press release and a few bloggers wrote about it.</p>
<p>So perhaps the 5 million views should not be measured against the USA population but just the Crackle membership. So how many members does Crackle have? By looking at a fresh membership number, it seems to be less than 3 million.</p>
<p>There are many millions of international Xena fans and many of them know Zoe as Lucy&#8217;s stuntwoman, heck Lucy is in the series &#8211; yet Sony did not try to cross promote to that fan base. It was idiotic.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;@Chris Albrecht&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, after reading lots of your reviews of shows that have had success, I&#039;ve only noticed you bag them and not praise them, especially the classic shows without big backing like the It&#039;s All In Your Hands shows and early Big Fantastic works.  Regardless of big backing or not, web series are still a new thing to people, and they don&#039;t understand them yet. 100,000 views an episode is pretty good, some cable shows barely get that. As a new media writer, I think you should encourage web series creators more than bash them, which I&#039;d say if you went back and looked you do more than you don&#039;t.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris Albrecht</p>
<p>Well, after reading lots of your reviews of shows that have had success, I&#8217;ve only noticed you bag them and not praise them, especially the classic shows without big backing like the It&#8217;s All In Your Hands shows and early Big Fantastic works.  Regardless of big backing or not, web series are still a new thing to people, and they don&#8217;t understand them yet. 100,000 views an episode is pretty good, some cable shows barely get that. As a new media writer, I think you should encourage web series creators more than bash them, which I&#8217;d say if you went back and looked you do more than you don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Cunningham</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Cunningham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Well, I think 4.7 M views will translate to DVD numbers rather well. If they get 100K discs shipped to stores they will be very happy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am sure they are already are in the black as they probably have some deals from MipTV and Cannes to cover the raw production costs.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think 4.7 M views will translate to DVD numbers rather well. If they get 100K discs shipped to stores they will be very happy.</p>
<p>I am sure they are already are in the black as they probably have some deals from MipTV and Cannes to cover the raw production costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Albrecht</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Albrecht]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;@Justin,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dang, dude. I even said Angel of Death &quot;Killed&quot; in the headline. That&#039;s pretty positive.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While I think the industry still needs to develop a standard set of success metrics -- I don&#039;t think creating a blanket statement like 100,000 views is the way to go.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;AoD features a high-profile writer and a (somewhat) famous person in the lead and the backing of a big studio. I think it&#039;s okay to have higher expectations for that than a homegrown drama series without such perks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Justin,</p>
<p>Dang, dude. I even said Angel of Death &#8220;Killed&#8221; in the headline. That&#8217;s pretty positive.</p>
<p>While I think the industry still needs to develop a standard set of success metrics &#8212; I don&#8217;t think creating a blanket statement like 100,000 views is the way to go.</p>
<p>AoD features a high-profile writer and a (somewhat) famous person in the lead and the backing of a big studio. I think it&#8217;s okay to have higher expectations for that than a homegrown drama series without such perks.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;@Zoe fan - Crackle shut off international views because web series are bought internationally and they would lose money to just give it away.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@DP81 It&#039;s hard to sustain an audience on 1 portal, had Crackle proliferated AoD to other platforms they may have had 5 times the views.  That being said, I&#039;m sure Sony has planned their release so that they can still send the show out to other formats.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@Chris Albrecht Any web series that can get more than 100,000 views an episode should be considered a success story.  To get 200,000+ is fantastic.  You should write more about that than the negative like you always do when a web series has any success.  I don&#039;t think you&#039;ve ever written a positive review of a series.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Zoe fan &#8211; Crackle shut off international views because web series are bought internationally and they would lose money to just give it away.</p>
<p>@DP81 It&#8217;s hard to sustain an audience on 1 portal, had Crackle proliferated AoD to other platforms they may have had 5 times the views.  That being said, I&#8217;m sure Sony has planned their release so that they can still send the show out to other formats.</p>
<p>@Chris Albrecht Any web series that can get more than 100,000 views an episode should be considered a success story.  To get 200,000+ is fantastic.  You should write more about that than the negative like you always do when a web series has any success.  I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ve ever written a positive review of a series.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoë fan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/video/angel-of-death-keeps-killing-with-47m-views/#comment-471178</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoë fan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Keep in mind hat Crackle/Sony shot themselves in the foot over Angel of Death on Crackle because after the first day they blocked ALL international access (unlike every other video on Crackle).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So the 5 million views are USA audience only. Plenty of non-USA people are very unhappy with that and it ruins the whole &quot;first series made for online&quot; claims. Could easily be 10 million+ views now.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also the stats are publicly viewable, email me if you want to know how.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind hat Crackle/Sony shot themselves in the foot over Angel of Death on Crackle because after the first day they blocked ALL international access (unlike every other video on Crackle).</p>
<p>So the 5 million views are USA audience only. Plenty of non-USA people are very unhappy with that and it ruins the whole &#8220;first series made for online&#8221; claims. Could easily be 10 million+ views now.</p>
<p>Also the stats are publicly viewable, email me if you want to know how.</p>
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		<title>By: DP81</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DP81]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Im a bit surprised the viewers dropped off so dramatically. I thought it was a good series and from a pure production metric, probably the best the web has seen.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Per monetization discussion, I hope they at least broke even so that more high quality web series like AoD will continue to be made. I watched the entire series at one sitting and for whatever reason, I saw few ads (didnt get one for each episode). It did lead me to check out other Crackle shows though and I was impressed. Sony might have something here if they continue to supply quality content.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im a bit surprised the viewers dropped off so dramatically. I thought it was a good series and from a pure production metric, probably the best the web has seen.</p>
<p>Per monetization discussion, I hope they at least broke even so that more high quality web series like AoD will continue to be made. I watched the entire series at one sitting and for whatever reason, I saw few ads (didnt get one for each episode). It did lead me to check out other Crackle shows though and I was impressed. Sony might have something here if they continue to supply quality content.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel of Death &#171; Bars and Tone:</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angel of Death &#171; Bars and Tone:]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Go to New TeeVee to read up on the matter. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Go to New TeeVee to read up on the matter. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Albrecht</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Albrecht]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;@Jim,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That would indeed be good to know (maybe we can get the three of us on a conference call :) ). The ads are just one piece as I believe AoD will also be packaged for sale on DVD, so we&#039;ll need to see those numbers as well if that happens.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jim,</p>
<p>That would indeed be good to know (maybe we can get the three of us on a conference call :) ). The ads are just one piece as I believe AoD will also be packaged for sale on DVD, so we&#8217;ll need to see those numbers as well if that happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Strong</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Strong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Thank you for tracking down the truth to that viewership claim. I am tired of the exaggerated numbers from internet producers.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for tracking down the truth to that viewership claim. I am tired of the exaggerated numbers from internet producers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Louderback</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Louderback]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d be interested to know how much money they make per episode (ie count up the pre-roll/overlay/postroll/display ads), apply an average CPM, and see how much money each episode made vs how much it cost to make.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the long run it&#039;s about revenue and profit, not just raw viewer numbers...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be interested to know how much money they make per episode (ie count up the pre-roll/overlay/postroll/display ads), apply an average CPM, and see how much money each episode made vs how much it cost to make.</p>
<p>In the long run it&#8217;s about revenue and profit, not just raw viewer numbers&#8230;</p>
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