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		<title>Instructions on how to transform a comment troll into a human being</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 16:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mathew Ingram</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comment trolls are often used as an example of why blog comments are a waste of time, but a recent series by the Climate Desk showed how they can quickly be turned into human beings.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=gigaom.com&#038;blog=14960843&#038;post=648259&#038;subd=gigaom2&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you write anything on the internet &#8212; or for that matter, read anything on the internet &#8212; you&#8217;ve <a href="http://paidcontent.org/2013/05/21/why-racist-nasty-comments-are-better-than-none-at-all/">undoubtedly experienced</a> comment trolls, flame-wars and plenty of other bad behavior. Some blogs and news sites have tried either <a href="http://gigaom.com/2011/08/18/handing-comments-over-to-facebook-is-a-double-edged-sword/">handing over their comments to Facebook</a> or not having comments altogether as a way of preventing this kind of activity, but one site called Climate Desk took a different approach: they <a href="http://climatedesk.org/2013/05/video-meet-the-climate-trolls/">tracked down and interviewed</a> their most persistent troll, and in the process revealed him to be a fairly normal human being.</p>
<p>As the <em>Columbia Journalism Review</em> describes <a href="http://www.cjr.org/the_observatory/climate_change_comments_social.php">in a post on the project</a>, Climate Desk not only found and interviewed their comment troll &#8212; a 57-year-old insurance executive named Hoyt Connell &#8212; as part of a video series called &#8220;The Secret Life of Trolls,&#8221; but also profiled a scientist who spends much of her time engaging with trolls on the topic of climate change. In the final instalment, the <a href="http://climatedesk.org/2013/05/video-meet-the-climate-trolls/">scientist and the troll met each other</a> via Google Hangout.</p>
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<p>The CJR post <a href="http://www.cjr.org/the_observatory/climate_change_comments_social.php">criticizes the Climate Desk series</a> because &#8220;it doesn’t shine as much light under the bridge as it could have,&#8221; since it doesn&#8217;t go into detail about why Connell latched onto climate change as a topic, or what drives him to comment so aggressively (fittingly enough, Connell comments on the CJR post himself to try and clear some of this up). But what impressed me was how normal this mega-troll seemed once he was interviewed.</p>
<h2 id="comment-trolls-are-people-too">Comment trolls are people too</h2>
<p>I found the same thing &#8212; and I think others did too &#8212; when Gawker Media <a href="http://gawker.com/5950981/unmasking-reddits-violentacrez-the-biggest-troll-on-the-web">outed a notorious Reddit troll named Violentacrez last year</a>, after attention was drawn to several offensive sub-Reddits he created. Although clearly much of his behavior on the site crossed a line, the interview showed him to be a more-or-less normal, and in some ways even sympathetic (or possibly just pathetic) character. Not that this justified his conduct, but it helped to explain some of it.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve written before about how <a href="http://gigaom.com/2012/01/04/yes-blog-comments-are-still-worth-the-effort/">the value of comments</a> transcends the occasional troll, and how the best way to maintain a civil dialogue is to engage with readers directly, a point blogging pioneer Anil Dash <a href="http://dashes.com/anil/2011/07/if-your-websites-full-of-assholes-its-your-fault.html">also made in a post</a> a couple of years ago. And writers like Ta-Nehisi Coates of <em>The Atlantic</em> have shown that commenters can be much more than just a noisy distraction &#8212; in some cases, they can <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/personal/archive/2013/05/some-quick-thoughts-on-the-atlantic/275532/">actually become collaborators</a>. The Climate Desk series is a good reminder that trolls are people too.</p>
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<p><em>Post and thumbnail photos courtesy of <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/poitinjimmie/4117271628/">Flickr / Jeremy King</a></em></p>
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		<title>Analytics firm flushes out trolls spawned by Intellectual Ventures</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff John Roberts</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Intellectual Ventures has been invisibly bleeding billions from creative companies -- but its activities don't often come to light thanks to a clever use of shell companies. This could change.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=gigaom.com&#038;blog=14960843&#038;post=573026&#038;subd=gigaom2&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patent troll king Intellectual Ventures is notorious not only for its size but also for the invisible way it stalks its victims. That could change, however, thanks to a crowd-sourced project that will identify the shell companies that IV uses as tentacles.</p>
<p>For the unfamiliar, IV is the <a href="http://gigaom.com/2012/08/11/malaria-is-no-excuse-for-patent-trolling-mr-myhrvold/">dark empire</a> of Nathan Myhrvold, a former Microsoft executive who gamed the patent system by amassing tens of thousands of often-flimsy patents and then threatening to sue everyone in sight. IV and other trolls have reportedly drained <a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/09/study-patent-trolls-have-cost-innovators-half-a-trillion-bucks/">$500 billion</a> from the economy and created widespread disenchantment with America&#8217;s patent policies.</p>
<p>While IV has been at this for years, its activities are often undetected thanks to a clever use of a reported <a href="http://www.stanford.edu/dept/law/ipsc/Paper%20PDF/Feldman%20&amp;%20Ewing%20-%20Paper.pdf">1,300 shell companies</a>. This means that the start-ups and tech companies who receive &#8220;pay-up-or-else&#8221; letters for using things like <a href="http://paidcontent.org/2012/03/17/419-samsung-research-in-motion-sued-for-using-emoticons/">emoticons</a> are confronted by patent owners with futuristic names like &#8220;iZ2&#8243; or &#8220;Mobile Transformations&#8221; &#8212; only to discover that the patent owner is little more than a group of lawyers with a PO Box <a href="http://paidcontent.org/2011/10/14/419-how-a-texas-dog-park-became-a-new-front-in-americas-patent-wars/">in Texas</a>. All the while, the puppet master remains well hidden.</p>
<p>Now, however, a boutique analytics firm called IP Checkups is creating the &#8220;<a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ip-checkups-to-publish-intellectual-ventures-hidden-patent-portfolio-2012-10-15">IV Thicket Case Files</a>&#8220;, a blog and database that will serve as a taxonomy of IV&#8217;s trolling. The idea, says the company, is to keep tabs on IV and to provide a warning mechanism that will help start-ups determine if they are likely to be mugged by one of IV&#8217;s progeny.</p>
<p>More broadly, IP Checkups&#8217; project could reframe public perception of IV&#8217;s activities. So far, Myhrvold has <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57496641-38/inside-intellectual-ventures-the-most-hated-company-in-tech/">gulled the media</a> with tales of IV&#8217;s marvelous inventions. This could change once it becomes easier to see the extent of the dirty work carried out by the shells and, just possibly, galvanize the federal government to drive an anti-trust stake into IV&#8217;s heart.</p>
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