<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>GigaOM &#187; Deutsche Bahn</title>
	<atom:link href="http://gigaom.com/tag/deutsche-bahn/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://gigaom.com</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 03:58:35 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<language>en</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.com/</generator>
<cloud domain='gigaom.com' port='80' path='/?rsscloud=notify' registerProcedure='' protocol='http-post' />
<image>
		<url>http://0.gravatar.com/blavatar/0db8f6557d022075dbbf010c54d46d93?s=96&#038;d=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.wp.com%2Fi%2Fbuttonw-com.png</url>
		<title>GigaOM &#187; Deutsche Bahn</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com</link>
	</image>
	<atom:link rel="search" type="application/opensearchdescription+xml" href="http://gigaom.com/osd.xml" title="GigaOM" />
	<atom:link rel='hub' href='http://gigaom.com/?pushpress=hub'/>
		<item>
		<title>Open transport data in Germany? Not if you&#8217;re not Google</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/28/open-transport-data-in-germany-not-if-youre-not-google/</link>
		<comments>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/28/open-transport-data-in-germany-not-if-youre-not-google/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Meyer</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Deutsche Bahn]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Europe]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Germany]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Open Data]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=567876</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Germany's state-owned rail company has threatened a developer with legal action for publishing its timetables and station coordinates - data it's handed over to Google in an exclusive deal. The developer says he's just trying to keep the public informed.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=gigaom.com&#038;blog=14960843&#038;post=567876&#038;subd=gigaom2&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deutsche Bahn, the German railway company, is entirely owned by the state. So you may think it reasonable that its timetable data should be freely available, in line with the <a href="http://gigaom.com/europe/online-crowdsourcing-can-now-help-build-new-laws-in-finland/">open data trend</a> that&#8217;s growing so quickly in Europe.</p>
<p>Think again. Not long ago, an enterprising group of open data enthusiasts calling themselves <a href="http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=auto&#038;tl=en&#038;js=n&#038;prev=_t&#038;hl=en&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;layout=2&#038;eotf=1&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fopenplanb.tumblr.com%2F&#038;act=url">openPlanB</a> (cheeky tagline: &#8216;innovation without permission&#8217;) got their hands on a CD-ROM containing station coordinates, bus and train schedules and so on. Having converted it to JSON, early this month they put all the data online in torrent form, under the <a href="http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/">Open Database License</a> (ODbL). </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an example of the neat stuff you can do with this data – just a pretty animation, but think of all the third-party apps that could benefit from the raw material:</p>
<p><iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/47085769?portrait=0" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe></p>
<p>The reaction hit on Friday, when Deutche Bahn sales chief Birgit Bohle published an <a href="http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=auto&#038;tl=en&#038;js=n&#038;prev=_t&#038;hl=en&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;layout=2&#038;eotf=1&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.db-vertrieb.com%2Fdb_vertrieb%2Fview%2Fservice%2Fopen_plan_b.shtml&#038;act=url">open letter</a> to openPlanB provocateur-in-chief <a href="http://gigaom.com/apple/how-iphones-move-across-europe/">Michael Kreil</a>. The letter asserted that Kreil had broken the law by publishing the data under the ODbL, as he was not the copyright owner – Bohle said Kreil wouldn&#8217;t get sued this time, but would if he persisted.</p>
<p>The letter said Kreil had violated the rights of not only Deutsche Bahn, but also the <i>third parties with which it has exclusive agreements</i>. For that, read &#8220;Google&#8221;: the U.S. web giant launched its Transit service in Germany a couple of weeks ago, based on exactly the same data we&#8217;re talking about here.</p>
<p>Bohle also accused Kreil of giving open data a bad name, by fooling third-party developers into thinking the Deutsche Bahn data had been legally released under the ODbL, and also because that data would be out-of-date as soon as the timetables change.</p>
<p>Kreil, who has been <a href="http://zugmonitor.sueddeutsche.de/">working with the <i>Sueddeutsche</i> newspaper</a> since early this year on an open, interactive transport map, told me today that he&#8217;s just trying to keep the public informed.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We asked Deutsche Bahn to open up the timetables because they&#8217;re publicly available – they&#8217;re in every train station,&#8221; he said. &#8220;But they&#8217;re afraid that third-party developers will use poor routing algorithms and then the customers may blame Deutsche Bahn.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The French <a href="http://gigaom.com/2011/11/29/british-government-bets-big-on-open-data-for-growth/">and British</a> are opening up their transport data, Kreil noted. He also pointed out that Deutsche Bahn does have its own navigation app, but &#8220;it&#8217;s really bad&#8221;, and also useless for those without an internet connection. Such as, er, people on many trains.</p>
<p>&#8220;Blind people also can&#8217;t use this application,&#8221; Kreil added. &#8220;We want to fix it for free for Deutsche Bahn.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, he also doesn&#8217;t want to get sued. And for that reason, he said, he&#8217;s looking into launching a crowdsourcing effort whereby people would keep the database up-to-date by simply checking their local timetables. Automatically scraping Deutsche Bahn&#8217;s website is another option, he added.</p>
<p>Deutsche Bahn may be correct in saying this data is legally off-limits, but this does seem an awful lot of trouble for someone who clearly just wants to help. </p>
<br />  <img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=gigaom.com&#038;blog=14960843&#038;post=567876&#038;subd=gigaom2&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" /><p><a href="http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?iu=/1008864/GigaOM_RSS_300x250&#038;sz=300x250&#038;c=85949"><img src="http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/ad?iu=/1008864/GigaOM_RSS_300x250&#038;sz=300x250&#038;c=85949" /></a></p><p><strong>Related research and analysis from GigaOM Pro:</strong><br />Subscriber content. <a href="http://pro.gigaom.com/?utm_source=europe&utm_medium=editorial&utm_campaign=auto3&utm_term=567876+open-transport-data-in-germany-not-if-youre-not-google&utm_content=superglaze">Sign up for a free trial</a>.</p><ul><li><a href="http://pro.gigaom.com/2010/12/google-and-the-ghost-of-silicon-valley-past/?utm_source=europe&utm_medium=editorial&utm_campaign=auto3&utm_term=567876+open-transport-data-in-germany-not-if-youre-not-google&utm_content=superglaze">Google and the Ghost of Silicon Valley Past</a></li><li><a href="http://pro.gigaom.com/2011/12/whats-driving-the-next-phase-of-the-e-commerce-evolution/?utm_source=europe&utm_medium=editorial&utm_campaign=auto3&utm_term=567876+open-transport-data-in-germany-not-if-youre-not-google&utm_content=superglaze">What&#8217;s driving the next phase of the e-commerce evolution</a></li><li><a href="http://pro.gigaom.com/2011/12/will-cloud-computing-push-the-bric-market-to-the-front/?utm_source=europe&utm_medium=editorial&utm_campaign=auto3&utm_term=567876+open-transport-data-in-germany-not-if-youre-not-google&utm_content=superglaze">Will cloud computing push the BRIC market to the front?</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://gigaom.com/2012/09/28/open-transport-data-in-germany-not-if-youre-not-google/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>5</slash:comments>
	
		<media:thumbnail url="http://gigaom2.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/deutschebahn.jpg?w=150" />
		<media:content url="http://gigaom2.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/deutschebahn.jpg?w=150" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">Deutsche Bahn train</media:title>
		</media:content>

		<media:content url="http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6599daccfd7e897e68744fe0065e5a2e?s=96&#38;d=retro&#38;r=PG" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">superglaze</media:title>
		</media:content>
	</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
