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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/windows-mobile-65-video-appears-kind-of-strange/#comment-413148</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good points all, Jake.  We need a lot of choices no question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points all, Jake.  We need a lot of choices no question.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/windows-mobile-65-video-appears-kind-of-strange/#comment-413147</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WinMo 6.1 upgrades were available for lots of different handsets shortly after it was released and I would expect the same of 6.5.  We should know shortly after 6.5 is announced during MWC who will be releasing upgrades.

I have to agree with a lot of the commenters here when it comes to stylus vs. fingers.  Part of the power of Windows Mobile is the stylus and I think it&#039;s probably best that both input methods are supported where necessary or best suited to the task at hand.  

The other thing to remember is that the problems with WinMo aren&#039;t all down to the software.  I&#039;ve never really been too interested in a WinMo phone because they always have tiny low res screens (until recently).  Now that the Touch HD and Toshiba&#039;s TG01 are changing that I&#039;m becoming more interested because WinMo really shines on a large, high res screen.  My iPaq hx4700 has a 4&quot; VGA screen and I can do most things with my fingers.  However, if I want to quickly type an email or use an application that relies on lots of detail (Resco File Explorer for instance) then a stylus is more efficient.

Finally, it&#039;s important to note that America/Europe aren&#039;t the centre of the universe and that other people use their devices differently. Handwriting recognition on a phone is especially important in Asia and a stylus and resistive touchscreen are best suited to those markets.  Companies like Microsoft, HTC and Nokia recognise this but Apple don&#039;t which probably explains why the iPhone doesn&#039;t sell well in Asia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WinMo 6.1 upgrades were available for lots of different handsets shortly after it was released and I would expect the same of 6.5.  We should know shortly after 6.5 is announced during MWC who will be releasing upgrades.</p>
<p>I have to agree with a lot of the commenters here when it comes to stylus vs. fingers.  Part of the power of Windows Mobile is the stylus and I think it&#8217;s probably best that both input methods are supported where necessary or best suited to the task at hand.  </p>
<p>The other thing to remember is that the problems with WinMo aren&#8217;t all down to the software.  I&#8217;ve never really been too interested in a WinMo phone because they always have tiny low res screens (until recently).  Now that the Touch HD and Toshiba&#8217;s TG01 are changing that I&#8217;m becoming more interested because WinMo really shines on a large, high res screen.  My iPaq hx4700 has a 4&#8243; VGA screen and I can do most things with my fingers.  However, if I want to quickly type an email or use an application that relies on lots of detail (Resco File Explorer for instance) then a stylus is more efficient.</p>
<p>Finally, it&#8217;s important to note that America/Europe aren&#8217;t the centre of the universe and that other people use their devices differently. Handwriting recognition on a phone is especially important in Asia and a stylus and resistive touchscreen are best suited to those markets.  Companies like Microsoft, HTC and Nokia recognise this but Apple don&#8217;t which probably explains why the iPhone doesn&#8217;t sell well in Asia.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/windows-mobile-65-video-appears-kind-of-strange/#comment-413146</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The early rumors from people like Mary Jo Foley state that WM6.5 will only be available on new handsets, no upgrades provided.  I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s true or not but it&#039;s often the case with WM upgrades.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The early rumors from people like Mary Jo Foley state that WM6.5 will only be available on new handsets, no upgrades provided.  I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s true or not but it&#8217;s often the case with WM upgrades.</p>
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		<title>By: Techni</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Techni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t want every mobile OS to become the same. We need more choice. Don&#039;t just copy Apple cause it&#039;s the in-thing]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want every mobile OS to become the same. We need more choice. Don&#8217;t just copy Apple cause it&#8217;s the in-thing</p>
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		<title>By: Techni</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Techni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would it have to be finger friendly? We have many alternatives to WM which are FF, WM can remain different. I have an ipod touch and the whole finger friendly thing is BS, it&#039;s fraught with false negatives and positives control-wise. It&#039;s always clicking when I don&#039;t it to, or not clicking when I do want it to. It&#039;s a mess. I wish the iTouches supported a stylus. 

Being finger friendly is a waste of valuable screen real estate]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would it have to be finger friendly? We have many alternatives to WM which are FF, WM can remain different. I have an ipod touch and the whole finger friendly thing is BS, it&#8217;s fraught with false negatives and positives control-wise. It&#8217;s always clicking when I don&#8217;t it to, or not clicking when I do want it to. It&#8217;s a mess. I wish the iTouches supported a stylus. </p>
<p>Being finger friendly is a waste of valuable screen real estate</p>
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		<title>By: mkdrum</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mkdrum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CSMR - Try HTC X-Button for your task manager needs.

Anyone can grab a recent build of WM6.5 off xda if they want to put a custom ROM on their phone.  One poster on their forum did several benchmarks across multiple ROMS.  The WM6.5 one was a bit faster than the WM6.1 ROMs.  Not enough that I&#039;d pay for a WM6.5 upgrade though.  Hopefully it&#039;ll be a free upgrade phones, but I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if its new phones only.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CSMR &#8211; Try HTC X-Button for your task manager needs.</p>
<p>Anyone can grab a recent build of WM6.5 off xda if they want to put a custom ROM on their phone.  One poster on their forum did several benchmarks across multiple ROMS.  The WM6.5 one was a bit faster than the WM6.1 ROMs.  Not enough that I&#8217;d pay for a WM6.5 upgrade though.  Hopefully it&#8217;ll be a free upgrade phones, but I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if its new phones only.</p>
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		<title>By: CSMR</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CSMR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 04:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m hoping for...
an update of Outlook and Onenote (which have basic limitations),
a task manager,
better memory management (more things can be moved to SD card),
better use of VGA screens,
a better audio framework (Skype can&#039;t access earspeaker),
cleartype in landscape as well as portrait.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m hoping for&#8230;<br />
an update of Outlook and Onenote (which have basic limitations),<br />
a task manager,<br />
better memory management (more things can be moved to SD card),<br />
better use of VGA screens,<br />
a better audio framework (Skype can&#8217;t access earspeaker),<br />
cleartype in landscape as well as portrait.</p>
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		<title>By: drphysx</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/windows-mobile-65-video-appears-kind-of-strange/#comment-413141</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drphysx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One more thing: I know that this is an early build (only 50 builds up from the latest WM6.1 ROM) and it&#039;s slow because of the debug code and the interference between WM6.5 scrolling and TouchFlo scrolling.

What I do not know is how the final thing will look like.

To me, WM6.5 looks already very promising but I know that not everyone will agree on that. After all, it seems that WM-bashing is very popular at the moment, though I&#039;m not able to understand the reasons, because WM is still the most powerful mobile OS. 

It just lacks some style.

BUT it&#039;s less than two days until Steve Ballmer&#039;s Keynote at Mobile World Congress, which means that (hopefully) we will know a lot more soon : )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing: I know that this is an early build (only 50 builds up from the latest WM6.1 ROM) and it&#8217;s slow because of the debug code and the interference between WM6.5 scrolling and TouchFlo scrolling.</p>
<p>What I do not know is how the final thing will look like.</p>
<p>To me, WM6.5 looks already very promising but I know that not everyone will agree on that. After all, it seems that WM-bashing is very popular at the moment, though I&#8217;m not able to understand the reasons, because WM is still the most powerful mobile OS. </p>
<p>It just lacks some style.</p>
<p>BUT it&#8217;s less than two days until Steve Ballmer&#8217;s Keynote at Mobile World Congress, which means that (hopefully) we will know a lot more soon : )</p>
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		<title>By: drphysx</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/windows-mobile-65-video-appears-kind-of-strange/#comment-413140</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drphysx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg2XlNNt3vE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iV3wNMqcj8

Actually WM is already finger friendly on the HTC Touch HD. The videos show how to make it even more (perfectly) finger friendly.

But, actually, it&#039;s not so much about the OS and its interface - it&#039;s about the screen.
I don&#039;t get why companies still release devices with those tiny 2.8 inch screens.
All the menus are huge on the Touch HD and there is NOTHING that you can&#039;t control with your fingers. And that&#039;s with WM6.1 and TouchFlo only!

WM6.5 is a minor release and we can&#039;t expect major changes to the built-in applications.

But anyway it&#039;s not necessary to make those major changes because there&#039;s alternative, finger friendly applications for everything!

The most important things Microsoft has to change are the Start menu (and they did change it!) and the scrolling (and, again, they did already change that).

Everything else can be done by the user and/or the manufacturer.

That said, I am definitely content with WM6.5, because:

- On a big screen like the Touch HD&#039;s, controlling Windows Media Player, calendar and all the other built-in applications with just the finger is no problem at all.

- The only thing that&#039;s bad about WM6.1 on the Touch HD is the lack of smooth scrolling, nice animations and style/design. WM6.5 does add those things.

WM6.1 is not bad at all. It does lack some &quot;style&quot; (which means smooth scrollig, finger friendly buttons and beautiful graphics) BUT WM6.5 fixes the most important issues and there&#039;s still lots of things where Windows Mobile is actually ahead of OS X, Android and Symbian. 

WM6.5 will easily be able to compete with the other systems (after all, WM6.1 is still the best selling smartphone OS).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch this:<br />
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://gigaom.com/mobile/windows-mobile-65-video-appears-kind-of-strange/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/xg2XlNNt3vE/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iV3wNMqcj8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iV3wNMqcj8</a></p>
<p>Actually WM is already finger friendly on the HTC Touch HD. The videos show how to make it even more (perfectly) finger friendly.</p>
<p>But, actually, it&#8217;s not so much about the OS and its interface &#8211; it&#8217;s about the screen.<br />
I don&#8217;t get why companies still release devices with those tiny 2.8 inch screens.<br />
All the menus are huge on the Touch HD and there is NOTHING that you can&#8217;t control with your fingers. And that&#8217;s with WM6.1 and TouchFlo only!</p>
<p>WM6.5 is a minor release and we can&#8217;t expect major changes to the built-in applications.</p>
<p>But anyway it&#8217;s not necessary to make those major changes because there&#8217;s alternative, finger friendly applications for everything!</p>
<p>The most important things Microsoft has to change are the Start menu (and they did change it!) and the scrolling (and, again, they did already change that).</p>
<p>Everything else can be done by the user and/or the manufacturer.</p>
<p>That said, I am definitely content with WM6.5, because:</p>
<p>- On a big screen like the Touch HD&#8217;s, controlling Windows Media Player, calendar and all the other built-in applications with just the finger is no problem at all.</p>
<p>- The only thing that&#8217;s bad about WM6.1 on the Touch HD is the lack of smooth scrolling, nice animations and style/design. WM6.5 does add those things.</p>
<p>WM6.1 is not bad at all. It does lack some &#8220;style&#8221; (which means smooth scrollig, finger friendly buttons and beautiful graphics) BUT WM6.5 fixes the most important issues and there&#8217;s still lots of things where Windows Mobile is actually ahead of OS X, Android and Symbian. </p>
<p>WM6.5 will easily be able to compete with the other systems (after all, WM6.1 is still the best selling smartphone OS).</p>
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		<title>By: GoodThings2Life</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ANY update to Windows Mobile is welcome in my book, HOWEVER, I do agree completely that WM is in desperate need for a complete finger-driven overhaul, and it needs to be sooner rather than later if they want to stay relevant in the mobile market.

I just installed the Pointui Home 2 beta on my Sprint Touch Pro, and so far I am really liking it a lot, although they admit it&#039;s still far from done. It is still just a cover-up of the main OS and apps though.

I will say this though... at least you CAN DO this type of UI replacement on a WM device.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANY update to Windows Mobile is welcome in my book, HOWEVER, I do agree completely that WM is in desperate need for a complete finger-driven overhaul, and it needs to be sooner rather than later if they want to stay relevant in the mobile market.</p>
<p>I just installed the Pointui Home 2 beta on my Sprint Touch Pro, and so far I am really liking it a lot, although they admit it&#8217;s still far from done. It is still just a cover-up of the main OS and apps though.</p>
<p>I will say this though&#8230; at least you CAN DO this type of UI replacement on a WM device.</p>
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