Kamikun, Vista drivers won’t benefit XP users in anyway. Some of the tools have been redesigned for Vista and these new versions are better than what you are using on XP but I do not think that they will run on XP.

Kamikun, I’m trying to do my best, that’s all. :D Thanks!

Well, guys, I know now what is going on with HID Drivers in our Q1. Check my blog.

Complete noob type question here but did I read Ctitanic correctly as saying that even those who have not yet gone to Vista would benefit from the “Vista” drivers?

I have no plans to switch over on the Q1 to Vista but I am really tempted to try out the new drivers to see if there is any marginal improvements in performance. (For example, has anyone tried PhatWare’s PhatPad on the original Q1? On the PPC, PhatPad is wonderful and nothing can touch it in terms of replicating the look and feel of writing on paper. On the Q1 its response is so spotty that it’s practically unusable. And yes, I have “constant touch” at the lowest setting.)

And BTW- I say this with all sincerity and as a professional ESL instructor: I know that English is a second language for Ctitanic but has anyone else noticed that this whole Vista driver fracas has had a really positive effect on his English? Honestly, Ctitanic, I swear I can tell a difference in your posts now compared to just a few months ago. Like I tell students all the time, if you focus more on just using the language instead of trying to learn it, your proficiency will skyrocket. Thanks for the teachable moment. :)

I give up…too many typos!

Ooops! not enough letters, maybe “Vexing InStallation Trouble Assured” or perhaps “Vitally Information Still to Arrive”. They were right about the “Wow!” though. “Wow, this is hard to install!” “Wow, it’s pretty but, wow, some of my stuff isn’t working.” Finally, “Wow! CTitanic is sure working hard on getting those drivers to work!”

I’ve only just installed Vista on my Q1 but I think I know what the name stands for: “Vexing Installation Trouble Assured”

Vista is so picky and its rating thing sux

Kevin, is not an issue anymore with how the ink looks. It’s an issue with what you can get, see and use because of not having HID Support.

But like I said in my latest post at my blog, we know already what is causing the problem and we are working in how to get it right. And one thing is for sure… the one causing the whole problem is that same TouchPack kit that you are trying to use to fix the problem. ;)

Thanks Tax Man, but that’s not the end of that. We keep trying and we are going to get it right. ;)

HID is Human Interface Device. You know, similar to the hole in the back of Neo’s head in the Matrix? ;) Seriously, it’s the device driver that’s needed for the touchscreen unit to be recognized as a true tablet in the OS.

Actually, anyone who isn’t liking the ink sampling on a Q1 should check the tweak I posted last year. http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2006/11/constant_touch_.html

It doesn’t take the place of HID drivers of course, but you can visually see the ink difference by working with the Constant Touch setting.

Mike, it’s not the way the ink looks kind of issue, it’s an issue with the OS not recognizing your UMPC as a Tablet PC and due to that you are not gaining access to all the Tablet PC features included under Vista. We are talking about processes as important as learning from your handwriting to give you an idea.

*sigh* As usual, I’m out of the loop and the last to know. HID — is that the universal interface for Bluetooth devices?

Having molested the hell out of a Q1 with XP installed, I find the HWR works fine even if the ink feedback looks like hell (the trick is to ignore the ink and watch the wee recognition box underneath!). I guess if I wanted to use something like inking in OneNote, the way the ink looks would worry me. But if I’m not going to use inking in OneNote, are there other objections to just using an XPed Q1?

BTW, I also would like to invite all Q1 owners that want to install Vista to start using the Q1p Vista drivers. You will get a lot more than if you stay using the old drivers.

Well, Kevin, I’m not expecting anything from Samsung at this point. But… at this moment using the Q1p drivers I got everything working in my Q1 but the HID Driver as you noticed from my post at my blog. But… when I wrote that note I did not have all the information I have at this moment.

We have been making a big mistake reintalling the Touchkit after installing all the drivers from the Q1p. I wont enter in any details yet because I still in the process of testing everything and making it work. But I can tell you one thing at this moment. We have everything that it’s needed to get our Q1 with HID Driver support. The only problem is that we still don’t know how to make it work. But… I certain that we can make it work.

I’ll write a note with all my findings later today. We will make it work with or without Samsung and at this moment I will say that I’m closer than ever to make it work without Samsung. It’s just a matter of time.

Companies such as Motion Computing that issue detailed instructions for upgrading to Vista should be commended for doing so, and this should be remembered as one of the types of support that makes one more likely to be a repeat customer.

In addition to support from the manufacturers, we can collect our own tips for Vista transitions, such as those on the Mobile PC Wiki:
http://mobilepcwiki.com/mpc/index.php?title=Category:Windows_Vista_Installation

That’s the only thing I need for my Q1P is the HID drivers. I have formated my drive and removed Tablet Edition and have gone full Vista. Like Kevin said hopefully Samsung will release the Vista drivers for the Q1P; if anything just the HID would good enough. Maybe we can some how get the BIOS version and restore DVD from the new Vista Q1P released and try it on our Q1′s.