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		<title>By: John Nullstream</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/what_to_make_of/#comment-403787</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;My two cents on the topic - after some further reflection:&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>My two cents on the topic &#8211; after some further reflection:</p>
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		<title>By: Joe T.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe T.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 19:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;The average person will want to carry only a lighweight phone; they don&#039;t need or want to be always internet-connected--they&#039;ll get that at home and/or work sometime later in the day.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For cases when they change to a different, unconnected base of operations (vacation home, or car/truck), it&#039;s not difficult to lug the Foleo once to that base of operations.  Now they can be mildly internet-connected.  A poor-man&#039;s Treo/EVDO experience for little money.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Having said that, I think you&#039;re right:&lt;br /&gt;
1. Average person is likely more as you portrayed: cellphone does everything, no extra gadgets, never.  Thrify person I envisioned probably isn&#039;t common, seems like a cheap geek (hey, I&#039;ve had an infrared modem for my PDA!).&lt;br /&gt;
2. As you point out, it&#039;s probably not worth the price of admission.  $200 Foleo might be tempting, $400 needs more gusto.&lt;br /&gt;
3. My scenario also depends on the current Verizon pricing differential, $50 ($80 on PC?) vs. $5.  Who knows what pricing and competition will appear soon to obsolete the $5 option?&lt;br /&gt;
4. It may be a bad assumption that a cheap phone and web browser will be supported by the Foleo.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>The average person will want to carry only a lighweight phone; they don&#8217;t need or want to be always internet-connected&#8211;they&#8217;ll get that at home and/or work sometime later in the day.</p>
<p>For cases when they change to a different, unconnected base of operations (vacation home, or car/truck), it&#8217;s not difficult to lug the Foleo once to that base of operations.  Now they can be mildly internet-connected.  A poor-man&#8217;s Treo/EVDO experience for little money.  </p>
<p>Having said that, I think you&#8217;re right:<br />
1. Average person is likely more as you portrayed: cellphone does everything, no extra gadgets, never.  Thrify person I envisioned probably isn&#8217;t common, seems like a cheap geek (hey, I&#8217;ve had an infrared modem for my PDA!).<br />
2. As you point out, it&#8217;s probably not worth the price of admission.  $200 Foleo might be tempting, $400 needs more gusto.<br />
3. My scenario also depends on the current Verizon pricing differential, $50 ($80 on PC?) vs. $5.  Who knows what pricing and competition will appear soon to obsolete the $5 option?<br />
4. It may be a bad assumption that a cheap phone and web browser will be supported by the Foleo.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/what_to_make_of/#comment-403789</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 16:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yeah, but are average people going to want to take this around with them all the time for what you admit are rare instances of using email on the go?  Is that worth the price of admission?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You&#039;d be surprised at how often I see people settling for using the cam in their *phone* instead of &quot;lugging&quot; a second device!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Yeah, but are average people going to want to take this around with them all the time for what you admit are rare instances of using email on the go?  Is that worth the price of admission?</p>
<p>You&#8217;d be surprised at how often I see people settling for using the cam in their *phone* instead of &#8220;lugging&#8221; a second device!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe T.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe T.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 12:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Web e-mail access anywhere, for the masses?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Most of you are power users.  Think about the non-power user, someone without a $50/mo. data plan.  And with a not terribly smart phone (e.g., Moto e815, LG 8300, ..., with 2.3&quot; diagonal screen), obtained for $50 with a 2-year data plan.  There are more of these picturephone/MP3 playing phones sold than Treos and such.  When average Joe/Jane goes on vacation, e-mail/web checking is possible only via Internet Cafes, or hotel or public wifi if you&#039;re willing to take along a full-fledged (fragile) PC or some internet device.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Verizon offers a $5/mo. web service on these lesser phones.  But not many buy this $5 extra plan because of the unsatisfactory experience using the tiny screen and numberpad.  If these grades of phones and that particular web browser were supported by the Foleo...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Power users take for granted their great anytime access (because it&#039;s a business-deductible expense?).&lt;br /&gt;
Average (thrifty) users would love to have average anytime access on the cheap.  Sure it takes a big device for readability, but that&#039;s exactly what they want: a bigger screen with keyboard.  Could you also make it robust and instant-on?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Uh, going on vacation tomorrow, I guess I&#039;ll find out if this makes any sense in about 10 days when my thrifty self can again access the wonderful internet.&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>Web e-mail access anywhere, for the masses?</p>
<p>Most of you are power users.  Think about the non-power user, someone without a $50/mo. data plan.  And with a not terribly smart phone (e.g., Moto e815, LG 8300, &#8230;, with 2.3&#8243; diagonal screen), obtained for $50 with a 2-year data plan.  There are more of these picturephone/MP3 playing phones sold than Treos and such.  When average Joe/Jane goes on vacation, e-mail/web checking is possible only via Internet Cafes, or hotel or public wifi if you&#8217;re willing to take along a full-fledged (fragile) PC or some internet device.</p>
<p>Verizon offers a $5/mo. web service on these lesser phones.  But not many buy this $5 extra plan because of the unsatisfactory experience using the tiny screen and numberpad.  If these grades of phones and that particular web browser were supported by the Foleo&#8230;</p>
<p>Power users take for granted their great anytime access (because it&#8217;s a business-deductible expense?).<br />
Average (thrifty) users would love to have average anytime access on the cheap.  Sure it takes a big device for readability, but that&#8217;s exactly what they want: a bigger screen with keyboard.  Could you also make it robust and instant-on?</p>
<p>Uh, going on vacation tomorrow, I guess I&#8217;ll find out if this makes any sense in about 10 days when my thrifty self can again access the wonderful internet.
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		<title>By: Alfred</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/what_to_make_of/#comment-403791</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 12:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;My opinion is that this device is very innovative.  We&#039;ve been clamoring for an instant-on device for years.  We will never see that in a full-blown Windows based device.  For what is expected of the device (IE, Office Apps, email, and web browsing) it sounds like a nice device.  What I think we need to look at is that this is a semi-closed system.  The OS can be optimized to be very efficient since the hardware is fixed and cannot be modified.  Hence the OS is probably very light and can boot from a small flash.  Personally, I&#039;d buy this.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From a newbie perspective, this sounds like Palm&#039;s version of Sideshow, only bigger with a real OS.  I can&#039;t wait to see what this year has in store!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>My opinion is that this device is very innovative.  We&#8217;ve been clamoring for an instant-on device for years.  We will never see that in a full-blown Windows based device.  For what is expected of the device (IE, Office Apps, email, and web browsing) it sounds like a nice device.  What I think we need to look at is that this is a semi-closed system.  The OS can be optimized to be very efficient since the hardware is fixed and cannot be modified.  Hence the OS is probably very light and can boot from a small flash.  Personally, I&#8217;d buy this.</p>
<p>From a newbie perspective, this sounds like Palm&#8217;s version of Sideshow, only bigger with a real OS.  I can&#8217;t wait to see what this year has in store!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Walker</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/what_to_make_of/#comment-403792</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Walker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 11:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s simply not powerful enough at a price that is too high to justify a purchase.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have a smartphone with a qwerty keyboard but I never, ever, ever think about how great it would be if I could hook it up to a larger monitor to surf the web or answer e-mails.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why? My web surfing is done on a desktop (mostly for research and/or  leisure), and I can answer e-mail with the built in keyboard on my phone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I do think Palm is testing the water. After reading the mostly negative potential users thoughts, they would be wise to significantly rethink the Folio or abandon it all together and go back to the drawing board. Just hope it won&#039;t be another five years before they decide to introduce a new device. They are falling further and further behind. My first 3 PDAs were Palm&#039;s so I do have a soft spot for them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wonder what the Folio would look like as an 8 inch P1610 like device running Ubuntu Linux that offered the same easy sync? That would be a better device at or near the same price point that might get more people&#039;s (positive) attention.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s simply not powerful enough at a price that is too high to justify a purchase.</p>
<p>I have a smartphone with a qwerty keyboard but I never, ever, ever think about how great it would be if I could hook it up to a larger monitor to surf the web or answer e-mails.</p>
<p>Why? My web surfing is done on a desktop (mostly for research and/or  leisure), and I can answer e-mail with the built in keyboard on my phone.</p>
<p>But I do think Palm is testing the water. After reading the mostly negative potential users thoughts, they would be wise to significantly rethink the Folio or abandon it all together and go back to the drawing board. Just hope it won&#8217;t be another five years before they decide to introduce a new device. They are falling further and further behind. My first 3 PDAs were Palm&#8217;s so I do have a soft spot for them.</p>
<p>I wonder what the Folio would look like as an 8 inch P1610 like device running Ubuntu Linux that offered the same easy sync? That would be a better device at or near the same price point that might get more people&#8217;s (positive) attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 10:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s like a grown up OGO.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;d be cool to have an instant on device that just did wifi for gmail, google reader, blogs, etc. and a decent size keyboard.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d pay 399 for that, it&#039;d be handy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s like a grown up OGO.</p>
<p>It&#8217;d be cool to have an instant on device that just did wifi for gmail, google reader, blogs, etc. and a decent size keyboard.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d pay 399 for that, it&#8217;d be handy.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank McPherson</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 10:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;The bigger story to me is, after all the secrecy this is what Jeff Hawkins waw working on? There is nothing innovative here. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>The bigger story to me is, after all the secrecy this is what Jeff Hawkins waw working on? There is nothing innovative here. </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/what_to_make_of/#comment-403795</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Cane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 10:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Why would the Flopeo succeed when those better-built HPCs (the 2nd generation larger ones) failed?  It won&#039;t.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Why would the Flopeo succeed when those better-built HPCs (the 2nd generation larger ones) failed?  It won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Hanno Zulla</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hanno Zulla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 09:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;(I wrote that elsewhere already:) The Foleo reminds me a lot of the Windows CE &quot;Jupiter&quot; Handheld PC, which was introduced sometime around 1998.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And that one wasn&#039;t much of a success.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>(I wrote that elsewhere already:) The Foleo reminds me a lot of the Windows CE &#8220;Jupiter&#8221; Handheld PC, which was introduced sometime around 1998.</p>
<p>And that one wasn&#8217;t much of a success.</p>
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