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		<title>By: Rufus Polson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus Polson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For voice input, give &#039;em a wireless microphone that looks like a cell phone (or perhaps, that *is* a cell phone).  Then they won&#039;t look silly, they&#039;ll just look like another person talking into their cell phone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For voice input, give &#8216;em a wireless microphone that looks like a cell phone (or perhaps, that *is* a cell phone).  Then they won&#8217;t look silly, they&#8217;ll just look like another person talking into their cell phone.</p>
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		<title>By: djasli</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Rove-IT. Graffiti (or Block Recognizer on WinMo)is my text-input method of choice for texting &amp; emailing. Has been for years since I bought my first Palm IIIx. I&#039;m very comfortable with it to such an extent that I write essays on my WinMo phone regularly. Just makes sure you get a proper pen-sized stylus to go with it. Once learned, Graffiti is easy &amp; comfortable to use. I pray that it will not fades away. 

(Written via my TC1100 using the 1st gen TIP, which do has Block Recognizer)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Rove-IT. Graffiti (or Block Recognizer on WinMo)is my text-input method of choice for texting &amp; emailing. Has been for years since I bought my first Palm IIIx. I&#8217;m very comfortable with it to such an extent that I write essays on my WinMo phone regularly. Just makes sure you get a proper pen-sized stylus to go with it. Once learned, Graffiti is easy &amp; comfortable to use. I pray that it will not fades away. </p>
<p>(Written via my TC1100 using the 1st gen TIP, which do has Block Recognizer)</p>
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		<title>By: Rove-IT</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rove-IT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very nice of James to mention Graffiti. As one long time user I really appreciate it for texting and limited text entry on my WinMo phone. Tried digital ink on my HP TC1100 just about drove me mad.Of course with Graffiti time has proven that the average user is not going to go for it despite the fact that compared to say texting on a numeric phone pad it is light years ahead. The sad reality for Graffiti is it never became trendy. If there had been some decent marketing or some well known American personalities using it then who knows, maybe it would have reached critical mass with average users discovering it is in fact dead easy to use. Anyway in the average user world I&#039;m encouraged by snippets of news that Apple and HTC are coming with a stylus that will work on Capacitive devices. This may finally mean I can move on from Graffiti to another workable digital ink solution. Bring it on!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice of James to mention Graffiti. As one long time user I really appreciate it for texting and limited text entry on my WinMo phone. Tried digital ink on my HP TC1100 just about drove me mad.Of course with Graffiti time has proven that the average user is not going to go for it despite the fact that compared to say texting on a numeric phone pad it is light years ahead. The sad reality for Graffiti is it never became trendy. If there had been some decent marketing or some well known American personalities using it then who knows, maybe it would have reached critical mass with average users discovering it is in fact dead easy to use. Anyway in the average user world I&#8217;m encouraged by snippets of news that Apple and HTC are coming with a stylus that will work on Capacitive devices. This may finally mean I can move on from Graffiti to another workable digital ink solution. Bring it on!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Talking to your computer makes you look silly&quot; or awesome!  ;)

On a recent trip, we were wandering aimlessly through a business park searching for a Mexican restaurant. The driver admitted that she only vaguely knew its location. 

So I whipped out my iPhone and said &quot;Hacienda near me&quot;. (a restaurant name I couldn&#039;t spell)

The car laughed.

Moments later I was able to direct the driver to the restaurant. 

The car murmured &quot;Cool&quot;.

Speech when it works well can be fast and not so embarrassing.  Still I don&#039;t want to dictate my every email, IM, and google search to the world around me.  Even future flawless speech input will still need a more private backup method.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Talking to your computer makes you look silly&#8221; or awesome!  ;)</p>
<p>On a recent trip, we were wandering aimlessly through a business park searching for a Mexican restaurant. The driver admitted that she only vaguely knew its location. </p>
<p>So I whipped out my iPhone and said &#8220;Hacienda near me&#8221;. (a restaurant name I couldn&#8217;t spell)</p>
<p>The car laughed.</p>
<p>Moments later I was able to direct the driver to the restaurant. </p>
<p>The car murmured &#8220;Cool&#8221;.</p>
<p>Speech when it works well can be fast and not so embarrassing.  Still I don&#8217;t want to dictate my every email, IM, and google search to the world around me.  Even future flawless speech input will still need a more private backup method.</p>
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		<title>By: mrwed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mrwed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems crazy to me that I can write faster on my HTC Touch than on my Samsung Q1U. Zero weight keyboard is outstanding for a simple keyboard, bit it suffers in comparison to the Touchpal keyboard on my smartphone because it doesn&#039;t have predictive text. I&#039;ve tried several on the Q1U that claim to have predictive text, but none does it anywhere near as effectively as Touchpal (or the iphone, apparently) or even T9. I agree with sumocat--the keyboard wouldn&#039;t have to fill the screen; couldn&#039;t one of the phone keyboards simply be ported over to PCs?

James--I imagine you&#039;ve tried ritepen; it allows the user to write anywhere onscreen. I have the older version, and it&#039;s not perfect, but it&#039;s pretty good for writing longer text passages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems crazy to me that I can write faster on my HTC Touch than on my Samsung Q1U. Zero weight keyboard is outstanding for a simple keyboard, bit it suffers in comparison to the Touchpal keyboard on my smartphone because it doesn&#8217;t have predictive text. I&#8217;ve tried several on the Q1U that claim to have predictive text, but none does it anywhere near as effectively as Touchpal (or the iphone, apparently) or even T9. I agree with sumocat&#8211;the keyboard wouldn&#8217;t have to fill the screen; couldn&#8217;t one of the phone keyboards simply be ported over to PCs?</p>
<p>James&#8211;I imagine you&#8217;ve tried ritepen; it allows the user to write anywhere onscreen. I have the older version, and it&#8217;s not perfect, but it&#8217;s pretty good for writing longer text passages.</p>
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		<title>By: borax99 (Alain)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[borax99 (Alain)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I use the S5&#039;s virtual keyboard quite a bit, and use a pair of old ThinkOutside keyboards (Bluetooth &amp; USB). For middlin&#039; input, I stick to the tried, true and trusty FITALY soft keyboard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use the S5&#8242;s virtual keyboard quite a bit, and use a pair of old ThinkOutside keyboards (Bluetooth &amp; USB). For middlin&#8217; input, I stick to the tried, true and trusty FITALY soft keyboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicholas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[when I had my Fujitsu slate, I found the virtual keyboard satisfactory for a number of browsing situations. Since I have been on various boards and blogs for a number of years, it never really bothered me that much. When the going got tough, I’d hit the desk with a Happy Hacking Keyboard.

I really do insist that the 10&quot; screen size is going to be optimal. It is professional size, akin to my larger Moleskines. With a bluetooth headset it allows for notes. It is useful for browsing. In a vertical mode, the thumbs are well positioned. The only reason I would want a larger tablet is for sketching, but I am not the average consumer or professional.

All of the above are coming around one day soon, so hopefully we’ll have our choice!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when I had my Fujitsu slate, I found the virtual keyboard satisfactory for a number of browsing situations. Since I have been on various boards and blogs for a number of years, it never really bothered me that much. When the going got tough, I’d hit the desk with a Happy Hacking Keyboard.</p>
<p>I really do insist that the 10&#8243; screen size is going to be optimal. It is professional size, akin to my larger Moleskines. With a bluetooth headset it allows for notes. It is useful for browsing. In a vertical mode, the thumbs are well positioned. The only reason I would want a larger tablet is for sketching, but I am not the average consumer or professional.</p>
<p>All of the above are coming around one day soon, so hopefully we’ll have our choice!</p>
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		<title>By: Levi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Levi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I share the pessimism.  I don&#039;t think there is a good way, not unless people are willing to invest in leaning a new method.  And we know from the PDA input results that they are not willing.  (That one was decent.)  If people are willing I am optimistic about the swype though I have concerns about multi-language, acronyms, etc.  I was going to bring it up but Brian beat me to it.  I would like to see apple implement this on my phone by default to see how much I am willing to learn it. :)  (I know of the third party software, but I hated it.  It is not convenient.)

I do see some hope.  Apple has been good at telling us what we want.  Maybe they will do that again.  Then we&#039;ll learn and the problem will be solved.  Palm told us to learn graffiti and nobody cared.  Maybe when Jobs will tell us to learn, learn we will.

This could be one solution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share the pessimism.  I don&#8217;t think there is a good way, not unless people are willing to invest in leaning a new method.  And we know from the PDA input results that they are not willing.  (That one was decent.)  If people are willing I am optimistic about the swype though I have concerns about multi-language, acronyms, etc.  I was going to bring it up but Brian beat me to it.  I would like to see apple implement this on my phone by default to see how much I am willing to learn it. :)  (I know of the third party software, but I hated it.  It is not convenient.)</p>
<p>I do see some hope.  Apple has been good at telling us what we want.  Maybe they will do that again.  Then we&#8217;ll learn and the problem will be solved.  Palm told us to learn graffiti and nobody cared.  Maybe when Jobs will tell us to learn, learn we will.</p>
<p>This could be one solution:</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://gigaom.com/mobile/web-tablets-and-text-entry-how-to-do-it/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/9BnLbv6QYcA/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: johnkzin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: johnkzin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For me...

I&#039;m fine with a virtual keyboard for _light_ input.  Especially if the screen is big enough that I have a reasonable amount of the app still visible even when I&#039;m using a full thumb sized keyboard.  Imagine a 9&quot; Android Tablet, in portrait mode, with ConnectBot at the top, and a virtual keyboard at the bottom.  I should have pretty close to a full 80x24 terminal visible in that use case.

For heavy typing, I have (in my gadget bag) a Matthias folding USB keyboard (no need to worry about connections or batteries, like with my older iGo folding Bluetooth keyboard).  It&#039;s full size, and quite usable.  It just requires that I have a table, and that the device has USB ports.  Luckily, the Entourage eDGe looks like it&#039;ll work with this.  That, and a video out port, gives you KVM support, as well.

One thing I think would greatly help Android (or any tablet OS) is the &quot;Swipe&quot; input method.  You basically have an on screen qwerty keyboard, but instead of &quot;tapping&quot; the keys, you sort of play &quot;connect the dots&quot; with them.  To type &quot;send&quot;, you put your finger down on the s, keep it down while moving to the e, keep it down while moving to the n, and keep it down while moving to the d.  Then you raise your finger (for the first time since putting it down on the s).  That would help a lot.

I don&#039;t know how well Apple&#039;s inkwell technology has improved upon (or even just preserved) the Newton handwriting recognition, but that&#039;s another one that might be useful.  But, for just taking notes, simple e-ink writing with a stylus, into a graphical format (no automated analysis of what you wrote) would be &quot;useful enough&quot;.  You&#039;d just have to go back and transcribe it yourself (with your USB keyboard, perhaps while at a KVM switch), later.

I personally never really liked Grafiti on the Palm.  I know some people liked it a lot ... and maybe it&#039;s just that I didn&#039;t use it enough to get used to it.  But, yeah, I wouldn&#039;t be attracted to that as an imposed solution.  I also never use the Grafiti-like input on Maemo.

So, there you go: for the foreseeable future, on an Android tablet, I plan on using the on-screen/virtual keyboards for light text input.  Then I plan to use a USB keyboard of some sort for heavier text input.  If I get the Entourage eDGe, I could also use the e-paper screen for &quot;written notes&quot; that I transcribe via keyboard, later.  Last, I&#039;d find it useful to see the &quot;swipe input&quot; method available for the Android virtual keyboards :-}]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m fine with a virtual keyboard for _light_ input.  Especially if the screen is big enough that I have a reasonable amount of the app still visible even when I&#8217;m using a full thumb sized keyboard.  Imagine a 9&#8243; Android Tablet, in portrait mode, with ConnectBot at the top, and a virtual keyboard at the bottom.  I should have pretty close to a full 80&#215;24 terminal visible in that use case.</p>
<p>For heavy typing, I have (in my gadget bag) a Matthias folding USB keyboard (no need to worry about connections or batteries, like with my older iGo folding Bluetooth keyboard).  It&#8217;s full size, and quite usable.  It just requires that I have a table, and that the device has USB ports.  Luckily, the Entourage eDGe looks like it&#8217;ll work with this.  That, and a video out port, gives you KVM support, as well.</p>
<p>One thing I think would greatly help Android (or any tablet OS) is the &#8220;Swipe&#8221; input method.  You basically have an on screen qwerty keyboard, but instead of &#8220;tapping&#8221; the keys, you sort of play &#8220;connect the dots&#8221; with them.  To type &#8220;send&#8221;, you put your finger down on the s, keep it down while moving to the e, keep it down while moving to the n, and keep it down while moving to the d.  Then you raise your finger (for the first time since putting it down on the s).  That would help a lot.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how well Apple&#8217;s inkwell technology has improved upon (or even just preserved) the Newton handwriting recognition, but that&#8217;s another one that might be useful.  But, for just taking notes, simple e-ink writing with a stylus, into a graphical format (no automated analysis of what you wrote) would be &#8220;useful enough&#8221;.  You&#8217;d just have to go back and transcribe it yourself (with your USB keyboard, perhaps while at a KVM switch), later.</p>
<p>I personally never really liked Grafiti on the Palm.  I know some people liked it a lot &#8230; and maybe it&#8217;s just that I didn&#8217;t use it enough to get used to it.  But, yeah, I wouldn&#8217;t be attracted to that as an imposed solution.  I also never use the Grafiti-like input on Maemo.</p>
<p>So, there you go: for the foreseeable future, on an Android tablet, I plan on using the on-screen/virtual keyboards for light text input.  Then I plan to use a USB keyboard of some sort for heavier text input.  If I get the Entourage eDGe, I could also use the e-paper screen for &#8220;written notes&#8221; that I transcribe via keyboard, later.  Last, I&#8217;d find it useful to see the &#8220;swipe input&#8221; method available for the Android virtual keyboards :-}</p>
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