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		<title>By: Conrad Hametner</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/verizon-wireles-5/#comment-397233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Conrad Hametner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Anyone here any details regarding applications?  Will we finally be able to download any BREW application, click on live links in the WAP browser?  If so this is a step in the right direction.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Anyone here any details regarding applications?  Will we finally be able to download any BREW application, click on live links in the WAP browser?  If so this is a step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: JimAtLaw</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/verizon-wireles-5/#comment-397234</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JimAtLaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Verizon has been losing a lot of customers (myself included) by handicapping devices, making objectionable terms of service changes, etc. for years now, and is finally getting half a clue.  Huzzah for them.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How many users have already switched to HSDPA and have no intention of going back to CDMA when we can now rearrange devices and carriers with a simple SIM card swap, as well as having nearly-worldwide roaming?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Verizon has been losing a lot of customers (myself included) by handicapping devices, making objectionable terms of service changes, etc. for years now, and is finally getting half a clue.  Huzzah for them.  </p>
<p>How many users have already switched to HSDPA and have no intention of going back to CDMA when we can now rearrange devices and carriers with a simple SIM card swap, as well as having nearly-worldwide roaming?</p>
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		<title>By: tnkgrl</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/verizon-wireles-5/#comment-397235</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;@Mike Whalen, my experience does vary :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been consistently getting better HSDPA (1.8 Mbps version) performance than EVDO (Rev. 0 version) in the last 2 cities I&#039;ve lived in (SF and Seattle)...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know about HSDPA (3.6 Mbps) and/or HSUPA vs. EVDO (Rev. A), though.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can also browse the web and talk at the same time on the same device (simultaneous data and voice since WCDMA and GSM use separate radios).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can swap devices on a whim by simply swapping my SIM card, ad I can use my devices abroad!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The only advantage I see with EVDO is overage within the US (outside of major urban areas).&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>@Mike Whalen, my experience does vary :)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been consistently getting better HSDPA (1.8 Mbps version) performance than EVDO (Rev. 0 version) in the last 2 cities I&#8217;ve lived in (SF and Seattle)&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about HSDPA (3.6 Mbps) and/or HSUPA vs. EVDO (Rev. A), though.</p>
<p>I can also browse the web and talk at the same time on the same device (simultaneous data and voice since WCDMA and GSM use separate radios).</p>
<p>I can swap devices on a whim by simply swapping my SIM card, ad I can use my devices abroad!</p>
<p>The only advantage I see with EVDO is overage within the US (outside of major urban areas).
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/verizon-wireles-5/#comment-397236</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Current iPhones made by Apple use the GSM standard&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Argh.  I keep forgetting about the different bloody OTA methods.  Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>>>>Current iPhones made by Apple use the GSM standard</p>
<p>Argh.  I keep forgetting about the different bloody OTA methods.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Whalen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/verizon-wireles-5/#comment-397237</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Whalen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hey, I&#039;d happily switch over to GSM if I got the same *experience in data throughput, signal strength, available, etc. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;*your experience may vary&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Hey, I&#8217;d happily switch over to GSM if I got the same *experience in data throughput, signal strength, available, etc. </p>
<p>*your experience may vary</p>
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		<title>By: tnkgrl</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/verizon-wireles-5/#comment-397238</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh look! Verizon (and recently Sprint as well) are discovering what GSM has been all about for 20 years...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Except you don&#039;t need to even certify a homebrew GSM device - you just need to insert your SIM card.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Taht being said, I applaud the CDMA carriers finally getting a clue :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Oh look! Verizon (and recently Sprint as well) are discovering what GSM has been all about for 20 years&#8230;</p>
<p>Except you don&#8217;t need to even certify a homebrew GSM device &#8211; you just need to insert your SIM card.</p>
<p>Taht being said, I applaud the CDMA carriers finally getting a clue :)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Whalen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/verizon-wireles-5/#comment-397239</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Whalen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I see it as a plus. One of the many criticisms leveled at Verizon is that they take too long to bring new phones to market. I certainly remember the days where it seemed like Verizon would keep a Treo in testing for a couple of years before they released it. They&#039;re faster today, so they are responding to market pressure to keep up with &quot;cool phones.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I see this as another way to speed up the integration process. Of course, the devil is in the details. If, for instance, the manufacturer has to demonstrate a marketing plan for the phone or if Verizon requires it be sold in Verizon-owned retail or kiosk only, then that could be a deal-breaker for many. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One thing&#039;s for sure: They never stop working me over ... I mean, for me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>I see it as a plus. One of the many criticisms leveled at Verizon is that they take too long to bring new phones to market. I certainly remember the days where it seemed like Verizon would keep a Treo in testing for a couple of years before they released it. They&#8217;re faster today, so they are responding to market pressure to keep up with &#8220;cool phones.&#8221;</p>
<p>I see this as another way to speed up the integration process. Of course, the devil is in the details. If, for instance, the manufacturer has to demonstrate a marketing plan for the phone or if Verizon requires it be sold in Verizon-owned retail or kiosk only, then that could be a deal-breaker for many. </p>
<p>One thing&#8217;s for sure: They never stop working me over &#8230; I mean, for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/verizon-wireles-5/#comment-397240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin C. Tofel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Current iPhones made by Apple use the GSM standard, not CDMA used by Verizon, Sprint, &amp; Alltel, so no. &lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Current iPhones made by Apple use the GSM standard, not CDMA used by Verizon, Sprint, &#038; Alltel, so no. </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/verizon-wireles-5/#comment-397241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Cane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;So, jailbreaked iPhones will work on Verizon?  (Lacking visual voicemail, of course.)&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>So, jailbreaked iPhones will work on Verizon?  (Lacking visual voicemail, of course.)</p>
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		<title>By: Scotty</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/verizon-wireles-5/#comment-397242</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scotty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;In China the CDMA network are SIM based and you can use any CDMA device that accepts a SIM card. You just buy a SIM from a street vendor and slide it into your phone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Verizon doesn&#039;t presently support CDMA SIM, which is in my opinion that major contributor to their network being so closed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Prior to my iPhone i had been using various nice GSM SIM phones I&#039;d bought in Hong Kong on the at&amp;t network here in North America.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If Verizon starts using CDMA SIM then all they&#039;re doing is catching up with at&amp;t/t-mobile. *yawn*&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In China the CDMA network are SIM based and you can use any CDMA device that accepts a SIM card. You just buy a SIM from a street vendor and slide it into your phone.</p>
<p>Verizon doesn&#8217;t presently support CDMA SIM, which is in my opinion that major contributor to their network being so closed.</p>
<p>Prior to my iPhone i had been using various nice GSM SIM phones I&#8217;d bought in Hong Kong on the at&#038;t network here in North America.</p>
<p>If Verizon starts using CDMA SIM then all they&#8217;re doing is catching up with at&#038;t/t-mobile. *yawn*</p>
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