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	<title>Comments on: UMPC and sub-notebooks screen-size, resolution: the trend</title>
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		<title>By: SallyB</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/umpc-and-sub-no/#comment-371703</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 02:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;My job means that I attend a lot of meetings, give a lot of presentations and write a few documents.  Ideally, I need a convertible PC.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Specifically, I am looking for something with an A5-size active digitiser touch screen (i.e. and old-style paper organiser).  A5 is (strictly) 5.23&quot; x 8.27&quot; - i.e. a total screen size of about 9.78&quot;.  Therefore, provided that the aspect ratio of the 10&quot; screen is about the same, I will be pretty happy.  Now, bring on the active digitiser!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>My job means that I attend a lot of meetings, give a lot of presentations and write a few documents.  Ideally, I need a convertible PC.</p>
<p>Specifically, I am looking for something with an A5-size active digitiser touch screen (i.e. and old-style paper organiser).  A5 is (strictly) 5.23&#8243; x 8.27&#8243; &#8211; i.e. a total screen size of about 9.78&#8243;.  Therefore, provided that the aspect ratio of the 10&#8243; screen is about the same, I will be pretty happy.  Now, bring on the active digitiser!</p>
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		<title>By: Anton P. Nym</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/umpc-and-sub-no/#comment-371704</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anton P. Nym]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 08:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;7&quot; screen at 1024x600 would do me fine, I think.  Maybe 1280x720, but that gets a bit dinky for reading without mass DPI surgery in my opinion.  I like the size of the Q1&#039;s 7&quot; screen, and I have several jackets with pockets that would accept a device with a bezel-less screen of that size.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I do like the clarity and readability of the Q1&#039;s screen at 800x480, but alas the low resolution does interfere with some programs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt; -- Steve&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>7&#8243; screen at 1024&#215;600 would do me fine, I think.  Maybe 1280&#215;720, but that gets a bit dinky for reading without mass DPI surgery in my opinion.  I like the size of the Q1&#8242;s 7&#8243; screen, and I have several jackets with pockets that would accept a device with a bezel-less screen of that size.</p>
<p>I do like the clarity and readability of the Q1&#8242;s screen at 800&#215;480, but alas the low resolution does interfere with some programs.</p>
<p> &#8212; Steve</p>
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		<title>By: designthefutureguru</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 14:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;From 12&quot; to 7&quot;, definitely 1024x600&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think general population prefer bigger text over bigger desktop area, while the general niche (geek) market prefer bigger desktop area over bigger text.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;8.9&quot; would be optimal, but in order for a good sized keyboard to work, and minimal bezel for screen, perhaps 10 or 11&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>From 12&#8243; to 7&#8243;, definitely 1024&#215;600</p>
<p>I think general population prefer bigger text over bigger desktop area, while the general niche (geek) market prefer bigger desktop area over bigger text.</p>
<p>8.9&#8243; would be optimal, but in order for a good sized keyboard to work, and minimal bezel for screen, perhaps 10 or 11&#8243;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon M</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 08:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I would have to say 7 inches, at 1280x768 (or 1280x800) just like my trusty Toshiba Libretto U105. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I would have to say 7 inches, at 1280&#215;768 (or 1280&#215;800) just like my trusty Toshiba Libretto U105. </p>
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		<title>By: Eddie W.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/umpc-and-sub-no/#comment-371707</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 15:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;My perfect device so far is still the HTC Advantage.  I can&#039;t believe I&#039;ve been using it for over 6 months now and haven&#039;t really lusted after any other device.  Weird, especially considering I&#039;m such a gadget-whore.  In the office, I have the standard 18&quot; (19&quot;?) Dell monitor at 1280x1024.  At home, I have the IBM X60 at 1400x1050.  Both are nice for multiple windows and switching between documents.  I find, though, that unless I&#039;m doing some hardcore file editing or PDF creating, I use the HTC much more than I thought I would.  (I&#039;ve even used the HTC for briefings and presentations in the office, where otherwise I&#039;d have to lug around one of the laptops.)  Now if they could just get Google Docs to work on the HTC.....&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>My perfect device so far is still the HTC Advantage.  I can&#8217;t believe I&#8217;ve been using it for over 6 months now and haven&#8217;t really lusted after any other device.  Weird, especially considering I&#8217;m such a gadget-whore.  In the office, I have the standard 18&#8243; (19&#8243;?) Dell monitor at 1280&#215;1024.  At home, I have the IBM X60 at 1400&#215;1050.  Both are nice for multiple windows and switching between documents.  I find, though, that unless I&#8217;m doing some hardcore file editing or PDF creating, I use the HTC much more than I thought I would.  (I&#8217;ve even used the HTC for briefings and presentations in the office, where otherwise I&#8217;d have to lug around one of the laptops.)  Now if they could just get Google Docs to work on the HTC&#8230;..
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 12:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;jk again caught not reading my blog.  MSI was the first to announce a 10&quot; screen, for its Wind.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And let&#039;s not forget the Foleo was to have a 10&quot; screen.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Fiend.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh, and this is another reason for you to send me that Mini to fondle.  Aside from the kb, I need to know I can read sites on that screen!  (Knowing YOU, once you agreed to lend it to me, you&#039;d put Vista back on it!  Fieeeeeend!)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>jk again caught not reading my blog.  MSI was the first to announce a 10&#8243; screen, for its Wind.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget the Foleo was to have a 10&#8243; screen.</p>
<p>Fiend.</p>
<p>Oh, and this is another reason for you to send me that Mini to fondle.  Aside from the kb, I need to know I can read sites on that screen!  (Knowing YOU, once you agreed to lend it to me, you&#8217;d put Vista back on it!  Fieeeeeend!)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike H.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 11:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;The much overlooked Flipstart got it right with 5.6&quot; 1024x600 screen. It is pretty much the perfect size/scale for a small device. Easy and big enough to read without strain.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;OQO can be frustrating in default resolution, but the ability to zoom helps web browsing, but zoomed is a hard way to get real work done.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>The much overlooked Flipstart got it right with 5.6&#8243; 1024&#215;600 screen. It is pretty much the perfect size/scale for a small device. Easy and big enough to read without strain.</p>
<p>OQO can be frustrating in default resolution, but the ability to zoom helps web browsing, but zoomed is a hard way to get real work done.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave P</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/umpc-and-sub-no/#comment-371710</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 11:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;For portability, I want something about the size of a 3&quot;x5&quot; index card which is why I bought my OQO. I run it at 800x480 and it&#039;s large enough to ink on and large enough to read (if I take my glasses off). At the same time, it&#039;s small enough to put in my pocket or hang on my belt.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Once I sit down, I want a big monitor. Even if I had a UMPC/ULCPC with a 10&quot; screen I&#039;d want a bigger screen when I sit at my desk. Given that, I don&#039;t see the need to lug it around when I&#039;m on the move.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Note that the OQO replaced an old Motion slate so I have worked with a screen that comparable to your 10&quot;. To my mind, I&#039;d rather shed the weight and inches with my OQO. Now if I could only do the same with my waist.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>For portability, I want something about the size of a 3&#8243;x5&#8243; index card which is why I bought my OQO. I run it at 800&#215;480 and it&#8217;s large enough to ink on and large enough to read (if I take my glasses off). At the same time, it&#8217;s small enough to put in my pocket or hang on my belt.</p>
<p>Once I sit down, I want a big monitor. Even if I had a UMPC/ULCPC with a 10&#8243; screen I&#8217;d want a bigger screen when I sit at my desk. Given that, I don&#8217;t see the need to lug it around when I&#8217;m on the move.</p>
<p>Note that the OQO replaced an old Motion slate so I have worked with a screen that comparable to your 10&#8243;. To my mind, I&#8217;d rather shed the weight and inches with my OQO. Now if I could only do the same with my waist.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 11:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I agree very much about an instant-on OS. I&#039;ll buy anything, a Foleo, whatever, if it has good battery life, nice keyboard, and an instant-on OS.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Vista crawling to life in a minute or so is not the mark of a mobile system. It&#039;s for a desktop that stays on all the time.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>I agree very much about an instant-on OS. I&#8217;ll buy anything, a Foleo, whatever, if it has good battery life, nice keyboard, and an instant-on OS.</p>
<p>Vista crawling to life in a minute or so is not the mark of a mobile system. It&#8217;s for a desktop that stays on all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: borax99 (Alain C.)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 10:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;nomo, I agree 100% with you about the UX. I got to handle one for a few minutes, and I would go nuts trying to use it. The OQO, on the other hand, looks like a nice compromise - now if only I could get my hands on one !!!&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>nomo, I agree 100% with you about the UX. I got to handle one for a few minutes, and I would go nuts trying to use it. The OQO, on the other hand, looks like a nice compromise &#8211; now if only I could get my hands on one !!!</p>
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		<title>By: nomo</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 10:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Joe: I agree completely with your comment regarding instant on functionality. Vista sleep recovery is my top issue when using a portable PC for PDA applications. If device makers want to penetrate the business market, ultraportables need to wake up as quickly as smartphones.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Joe: I agree completely with your comment regarding instant on functionality. Vista sleep recovery is my top issue when using a portable PC for PDA applications. If device makers want to penetrate the business market, ultraportables need to wake up as quickly as smartphones.</p>
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		<title>By: nomo</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 10:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I agree with the specs posted by James above. The optimal size for me is a ten inch display with 1280x800 resolution (which correlates to ~0.18mm dot pitch). The Fujitsu 8.9&quot; display (which I use daily) has a 0.15mm pitch and is on the lower limit of usability. I often zoom the text for proofreading, but sometimes the display driver gets a little twitchy. Smaller devices like the Sony UX induce headaches every time I&#039;ve tried using them.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I agree with the specs posted by James above. The optimal size for me is a ten inch display with 1280&#215;800 resolution (which correlates to ~0.18mm dot pitch). The Fujitsu 8.9&#8243; display (which I use daily) has a 0.15mm pitch and is on the lower limit of usability. I often zoom the text for proofreading, but sometimes the display driver gets a little twitchy. Smaller devices like the Sony UX induce headaches every time I&#8217;ve tried using them.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 10:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have to say a 10&quot; screen would be nice.&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve owned a Fuju P1610, Samsung Q1, and recently an HP Mini-Note.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have the opinion that you can get away with less than 10 inches when using slate devices.  With a slate you can pull it in closer to read.  When it comes to a standard laptop style, manufacturers would appeal to a much broader audience with a 10 inch screen.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh and by the way, something I wish more manufactures than Asus were pushing for is INSTANT ON!  I think Jeff Hawkins got it right when he trumpeted the shift that occurs with an instant on OS.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>I have to say a 10&#8243; screen would be nice.<br />
I&#8217;ve owned a Fuju P1610, Samsung Q1, and recently an HP Mini-Note.</p>
<p>I have the opinion that you can get away with less than 10 inches when using slate devices.  With a slate you can pull it in closer to read.  When it comes to a standard laptop style, manufacturers would appeal to a much broader audience with a 10 inch screen.</p>
<p>Oh and by the way, something I wish more manufactures than Asus were pushing for is INSTANT ON!  I think Jeff Hawkins got it right when he trumpeted the shift that occurs with an instant on OS.</p>
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		<title>By: borax99 (Alain C.)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 10:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Kevin and Eric, I have experimented with DPI settings as well as IE text size, but usually fall back, because it plays havoc with pop-up windows and the like, and with some websites. The only UI customization that is a must for me was widening the scroll bars (think I saw that here, actually) to make stylus navigation a bit easier.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On another note, despite the P1610&#039;s excellent integration of touch, my next device *must* have either an active or capacitive touch digitizer. Active preferred, I find I really miss cursor tracking and hover pop-ups. Guess that&#039;s another story for another day.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Kevin and Eric, I have experimented with DPI settings as well as IE text size, but usually fall back, because it plays havoc with pop-up windows and the like, and with some websites. The only UI customization that is a must for me was widening the scroll bars (think I saw that here, actually) to make stylus navigation a bit easier.</p>
<p>On another note, despite the P1610&#8242;s excellent integration of touch, my next device *must* have either an active or capacitive touch digitizer. Active preferred, I find I really miss cursor tracking and hover pop-ups. Guess that&#8217;s another story for another day.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 10:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is something we&#039;ve been covering for two years now:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2006/06/some_thoughts_o.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2006/06/some_thoughts_o.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As devices get smaller it&#039;s an even more important topic than ever before.  My thoughts:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;5&quot; screen- 800x600 is perfect&lt;br /&gt;
7&quot; screen- 1024x768&lt;br /&gt;
9&quot; screen- 1280x800 (or 768)&lt;br /&gt;
12&quot; screen- 1280x800&lt;br /&gt;
15&quot; screen- 1600x1024&lt;br /&gt;
17&quot; and bigger- 1980x1050&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>This is something we&#8217;ve been covering for two years now:</p>
<p><a href="http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2006/06/some_thoughts_o.html" rel="nofollow">http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2006/06/some_thoughts_o.html</a></p>
<p>As devices get smaller it&#8217;s an even more important topic than ever before.  My thoughts:</p>
<p>5&#8243; screen- 800&#215;600 is perfect<br />
7&#8243; screen- 1024&#215;768<br />
9&#8243; screen- 1280&#215;800 (or 768)<br />
12&#8243; screen- 1280&#215;800<br />
15&#8243; screen- 1600&#215;1024<br />
17&#8243; and bigger- 1980&#215;1050</p>
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		<title>By: Ricky B.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 09:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;7&quot; at 1920x1200...? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I like the sound of that. ;) It&#039;d be too much for most people, though, I think -- while that hasn&#039;t happened so far, it&#039;s bound to sooner or later, which is a trend I wholeheartedly support.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>7&#8243; at 1920&#215;1200&#8230;? </p>
<p>I like the sound of that. ;) It&#8217;d be too much for most people, though, I think &#8212; while that hasn&#8217;t happened so far, it&#8217;s bound to sooner or later, which is a trend I wholeheartedly support.</p>
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