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	<title>Comments on: Toshiba just says no to Origami</title>
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		<title>By: Anton P. Nym</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/toshiba_just_sa/#comment-43061</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anton P. Nym]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s all fine and dandy to talk about &quot;innovation&quot; and wonderful new gadgets that would make Origami an [insert product name here] killer, but let&#039;s remember that every bit of innovation and every gadget either costs more money, draws extra power (and throws out extra heat), or both.

Origami seems intended to be lightweight and (if not cheap) affordable; adding a big, beefy battery to power custom-built state-of-the-art small-production-run doohickies just doesn&#039;t fit either design principle.  All those standard parts put together are in there for a reason; a 7&quot; display can piggy-back on DVD player orders, as the drives and processors can from other portables, and so on.  Sure, it&#039;d be nice to have a 900g/2lb UMPC with all-day power and a 2GHz processor for $600USD... but it&#039;d also be nice to win the lottery, and your odds are slightly better right now with the lottery.  :)  If you want to reach that price point, you&#039;ve got to either make huge runs (and take a huge gamble) or use off-the-shelf parts.

The first generation of Origami hasn&#039;t hit a home run with its execution of the design principles, more of a slow roller to be honest... but you can still get on base with a slow roller if you&#039;re fast on your feet.  Here&#039;s hoping that the second or third generation can bring &#039;em home with a light, convenient, affordable, and easy-to-use alternative to the notebook.

 -- Steve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all fine and dandy to talk about &#8220;innovation&#8221; and wonderful new gadgets that would make Origami an [insert product name here] killer, but let&#8217;s remember that every bit of innovation and every gadget either costs more money, draws extra power (and throws out extra heat), or both.</p>
<p>Origami seems intended to be lightweight and (if not cheap) affordable; adding a big, beefy battery to power custom-built state-of-the-art small-production-run doohickies just doesn&#8217;t fit either design principle.  All those standard parts put together are in there for a reason; a 7&#8243; display can piggy-back on DVD player orders, as the drives and processors can from other portables, and so on.  Sure, it&#8217;d be nice to have a 900g/2lb UMPC with all-day power and a 2GHz processor for $600USD&#8230; but it&#8217;d also be nice to win the lottery, and your odds are slightly better right now with the lottery.  :)  If you want to reach that price point, you&#8217;ve got to either make huge runs (and take a huge gamble) or use off-the-shelf parts.</p>
<p>The first generation of Origami hasn&#8217;t hit a home run with its execution of the design principles, more of a slow roller to be honest&#8230; but you can still get on base with a slow roller if you&#8217;re fast on your feet.  Here&#8217;s hoping that the second or third generation can bring &#8216;em home with a light, convenient, affordable, and easy-to-use alternative to the notebook.</p>
<p> &#8212; Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Ortega</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/toshiba_just_sa/#comment-43062</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hugo Ortega]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I must admit that Matt&#039;s non-disclosure was a little mysterious. JK and others have all seen the article I referenced, and we all concede that it should have been a positive announcement and not a negative.

The only sour taste left in my mouth is the negative comments that Matt decided to follow through with.

UMPC is here to stay; I know the current response in Australia has proven overwhelming. I’ll post more conclusive findings shortly!

Keep inkin’

Hugo
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must admit that Matt&#8217;s non-disclosure was a little mysterious. JK and others have all seen the article I referenced, and we all concede that it should have been a positive announcement and not a negative.</p>
<p>The only sour taste left in my mouth is the negative comments that Matt decided to follow through with.</p>
<p>UMPC is here to stay; I know the current response in Australia has proven overwhelming. I’ll post more conclusive findings shortly!</p>
<p>Keep inkin’</p>
<p>Hugo</p>
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		<title>By: John Lester</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/toshiba_just_sa/#comment-43063</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Lester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why can&#039;t these OEMs understand that, as a (sometimes mobile) knowledge worker, I haven&#039;t bought a desktop computer for about six years now and doubt that I EVER will again! I buy increasingly smaller laptops and I doubt that I will EVER buy a laptop that weighs much over 2 lbs ever again and I really only want to buy devices about the size of the oQo but have all the functionality of the oQo version 1+ or better. 

That&#039;s the leading, bleeding GROWTH edge of this marketplace, and they better get clued in to it OR GET RUN OVER...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t these OEMs understand that, as a (sometimes mobile) knowledge worker, I haven&#8217;t bought a desktop computer for about six years now and doubt that I EVER will again! I buy increasingly smaller laptops and I doubt that I will EVER buy a laptop that weighs much over 2 lbs ever again and I really only want to buy devices about the size of the oQo but have all the functionality of the oQo version 1+ or better. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the leading, bleeding GROWTH edge of this marketplace, and they better get clued in to it OR GET RUN OVER&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ctitanic</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/toshiba_just_sa/#comment-43064</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is something that OEMs should read ;)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://origamiproject.com/forums/permalink/2914/2914/ShowThread.aspx#2914&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://origamiproject.com/forums/permalink/2914/2914/ShowThread.aspx#2914&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is something that OEMs should read ;)</p>
<p><a href="http://origamiproject.com/forums/permalink/2914/2914/ShowThread.aspx#2914" rel="nofollow">http://origamiproject.com/forums/permalink/2914/2914/ShowThread.aspx#2914</a></p>
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		<title>By: ctitanic</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/toshiba_just_sa/#comment-43065</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ctitanic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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        I 100% agree with Jeff Gilbert. If OEMs do not see the need is because they are completely blind! :D
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        I 100% agree with Jeff Gilbert. If OEMs do not see the need is because they are completely blind! :D</p>
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		<title>By: ctitanic</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/toshiba_just_sa/#comment-43066</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ctitanic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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        well, the need is there. People want something under 2 pounds to carry not a 6 pound laptop. If you ask a Doctor what they would prefer to carry around in a hospital, a Tablet PC or these Origamis they will tell you that they want the Origami. Just because it&#039;s easier to carry. The other point is cost. Many people do not use Tablet PCs just because they were not willing to spend 1400 dollars for tablet pc if they could get a better laptop for less than 1000 dollars. I know that the price of todays origamis is far from being the 500 dollars promised by uncle Bill, but the they when you will buy one of those for less than 800 dollars is not far away, just look at the prices of the TabletKiosk. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        well, the need is there. People want something under 2 pounds to carry not a 6 pound laptop. If you ask a Doctor what they would prefer to carry around in a hospital, a Tablet PC or these Origamis they will tell you that they want the Origami. Just because it&#8217;s easier to carry. The other point is cost. Many people do not use Tablet PCs just because they were not willing to spend 1400 dollars for tablet pc if they could get a better laptop for less than 1000 dollars. I know that the price of todays origamis is far from being the 500 dollars promised by uncle Bill, but the they when you will buy one of those for less than 800 dollars is not far away, just look at the prices of the TabletKiosk. </p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gilbert</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/toshiba_just_sa/#comment-43067</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Gilbert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand the concern about battery life, but I see a very good future ahead for UMPCs. Connectability and battery life can only improve; it&#039;s the form factor that&#039;s important.

Ever try to take notes on a convertible tablet PC while you&#039;re trying to develop on it? Not sure you want to lug 3+ pounds of machine to a meeting just to take notes? UMPCs, I think, fill a vital role for personal organization that marry the best aspects of tablet pcs (the software and screen) and the best aspects of PIMs (the size, albeit a bit bigger).

Now, consider the UMPCs for business use in the field. Many businesses won&#039;t consider tablets for the field because of their expense, usually $1000+. If we can get the cost down to sub-$500 AND make them less clumsly to lug about, I think we&#039;ll see a dramatic increase in their use for field work. 

It&#039;s a mistake for OEMs to lose out on expertise in this area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the concern about battery life, but I see a very good future ahead for UMPCs. Connectability and battery life can only improve; it&#8217;s the form factor that&#8217;s important.</p>
<p>Ever try to take notes on a convertible tablet PC while you&#8217;re trying to develop on it? Not sure you want to lug 3+ pounds of machine to a meeting just to take notes? UMPCs, I think, fill a vital role for personal organization that marry the best aspects of tablet pcs (the software and screen) and the best aspects of PIMs (the size, albeit a bit bigger).</p>
<p>Now, consider the UMPCs for business use in the field. Many businesses won&#8217;t consider tablets for the field because of their expense, usually $1000+. If we can get the cost down to sub-$500 AND make them less clumsly to lug about, I think we&#8217;ll see a dramatic increase in their use for field work. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a mistake for OEMs to lose out on expertise in this area.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott_H</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/toshiba_just_sa/#comment-43068</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott_H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I&#039;m not sure it meets a real need?&quot;

That&#039;s the real issue. Who&#039;s been asking for a product like this? What problem does it solve? 

When I first saw a UMPC, it reminded me of the Pepper Pad. Anyone know how well the Pepper Pad is selling?

In line with Scotty&#039;s comment, I&#039;m reminded of one of your prior posts where you commented that one of the most innovative things about the UMPC was a built-in plastic stand on the back. That seems to sum things up nicely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not sure it meets a real need?&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the real issue. Who&#8217;s been asking for a product like this? What problem does it solve? </p>
<p>When I first saw a UMPC, it reminded me of the Pepper Pad. Anyone know how well the Pepper Pad is selling?</p>
<p>In line with Scotty&#8217;s comment, I&#8217;m reminded of one of your prior posts where you commented that one of the most innovative things about the UMPC was a built-in plastic stand on the back. That seems to sum things up nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: ctitanic</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/toshiba_just_sa/#comment-43069</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ctitanic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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        They are not just prepared for this new challange. ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        They are not just prepared for this new challange. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: ctitanic</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/toshiba_just_sa/#comment-43070</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ctitanic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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        So far according to all news that I have from TabletKiosk they are getting a lot of preorders and I glad to see that because despite to what some analysts says at the beginning I&#039;m one of those that thinks that Origamis came to stay for a while ;) and they do have a huge market waiting for more to come.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        So far according to all news that I have from TabletKiosk they are getting a lot of preorders and I glad to see that because despite to what some analysts says at the beginning I&#8217;m one of those that thinks that Origamis came to stay for a while ;) and they do have a huge market waiting for more to come.</p>
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