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	<title>Comments on: Smartphone, App Phone, Superphone &#8212; What&#8217;s in a Name?</title>
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		<title>By: Zibeb</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/smartphone-app-phone-superphone-whats-in-a-name/#comment-428336</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Pocket Computer&quot; reminds me too much of the &quot;Pocket PC,&quot; like my old HP RX4100 running WinMo2003. That hardly sounds like innovation...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pocket Computer&#8221; reminds me too much of the &#8220;Pocket PC,&#8221; like my old HP RX4100 running WinMo2003. That hardly sounds like innovation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zibeb</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/smartphone-app-phone-superphone-whats-in-a-name/#comment-428335</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You already hit it right on the nose. They should be called über-phones. Two reasons; first, über is the perfect way to describe something that is above and beyond the capabilities of something else (namely smartphones), and secondly, anything with an umlaut in it is full of awesome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You already hit it right on the nose. They should be called über-phones. Two reasons; first, über is the perfect way to describe something that is above and beyond the capabilities of something else (namely smartphones), and secondly, anything with an umlaut in it is full of awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: chippy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/smartphone-app-phone-superphone-whats-in-a-name/#comment-428334</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[these new phones are web focused so the name needs to reflect that. webphone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these new phones are web focused so the name needs to reflect that. webphone?</p>
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		<title>By: ces</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First off, I&#039;d take out the word &#039;phone&#039; since calling and receiving calls are just some of the things the gadget does. It is a mobile computer and communicator. Lets leave the phone paradigm and call it a Mocomm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I&#8217;d take out the word &#8216;phone&#8217; since calling and receiving calls are just some of the things the gadget does. It is a mobile computer and communicator. Lets leave the phone paradigm and call it a Mocomm.</p>
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		<title>By: turn.self.off</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/smartphone-app-phone-superphone-whats-in-a-name/#comment-428332</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[turn.self.off]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@robert, that only applies as long as mobile phone networks are the only really ubiquitous (i kinda dislike that word) wireless internet access system.

basically, i would say that looking at it that way is like driving into the future with the eyes fixed on the rear-view mirror.

there are people that have used the N800 as a phone while abroad, thanks to skype, rather then pay for roaming or get a local sim card.

and with services like google voice, that can handle anything from sms to voice mail, and even transcribe the voice mail and send it as email, things get really interesting.

end question really becomes if one have a phone to reach out, or to be reached, any where, any time. If its the latter, then yes, the N800 will not replace the phone, thanks to wifi being hit or miss.

but really, the N800 is fading, the N900 has a 3G radio in it, and yet nokia is all about &quot;oh and it can do phone to&quot; about it, rather then &quot;its a phone that can do net&quot;.

hell, archos is planing a &quot;phone&quot; version of their recently released archos 5 internet tablet, a first for them.

and again, the focus on the next gen mobile &quot;phone&quot; networks are data first, voice as a optional extra. Hell, its only recently that big players got together to hammer out a common way to do voice over LTE, rather then it being part of the spec from day one.

basically, the iphone, pre and droid are a collection of transition device, maybe one can call them feathered dinosaurs, that right now are phone with net on top. Tho depending on usage they can just as well be pocket computers with phone as just one of many features.

just watch how both pre and another motorola phone, cliq, acts as social networking devices, by linking all your various profiles and contacts into a single whole.

hell, i am not sure, but i am willing to bet that one can, either now or soon, make video calls from a android phone using google talk, to someone logged into their gmail account from a laptop or similar, using either wifi or 3G interchangeably.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@robert, that only applies as long as mobile phone networks are the only really ubiquitous (i kinda dislike that word) wireless internet access system.</p>
<p>basically, i would say that looking at it that way is like driving into the future with the eyes fixed on the rear-view mirror.</p>
<p>there are people that have used the N800 as a phone while abroad, thanks to skype, rather then pay for roaming or get a local sim card.</p>
<p>and with services like google voice, that can handle anything from sms to voice mail, and even transcribe the voice mail and send it as email, things get really interesting.</p>
<p>end question really becomes if one have a phone to reach out, or to be reached, any where, any time. If its the latter, then yes, the N800 will not replace the phone, thanks to wifi being hit or miss.</p>
<p>but really, the N800 is fading, the N900 has a 3G radio in it, and yet nokia is all about &#8220;oh and it can do phone to&#8221; about it, rather then &#8220;its a phone that can do net&#8221;.</p>
<p>hell, archos is planing a &#8220;phone&#8221; version of their recently released archos 5 internet tablet, a first for them.</p>
<p>and again, the focus on the next gen mobile &#8220;phone&#8221; networks are data first, voice as a optional extra. Hell, its only recently that big players got together to hammer out a common way to do voice over LTE, rather then it being part of the spec from day one.</p>
<p>basically, the iphone, pre and droid are a collection of transition device, maybe one can call them feathered dinosaurs, that right now are phone with net on top. Tho depending on usage they can just as well be pocket computers with phone as just one of many features.</p>
<p>just watch how both pre and another motorola phone, cliq, acts as social networking devices, by linking all your various profiles and contacts into a single whole.</p>
<p>hell, i am not sure, but i am willing to bet that one can, either now or soon, make video calls from a android phone using google talk, to someone logged into their gmail account from a laptop or similar, using either wifi or 3G interchangeably.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, but if the point of inventing this new terminology is to clear up some alleged confusion in the marketplace, a term like &quot;pocket computer&quot; would only make things worse.  My N800 is clearly a pocket computer since it fits in my pocket and is a legitimate computer.  But it&#039;s not a &quot;phone&quot; as most people understand that term since it can&#039;t use any cell phone carrier to make calls.  Sure it can use Skype, SIP, etc. but that doesn&#039;t make it a substitute for an iPhone, Pre or Droid.

A totally new term like comphone (computer phone) or computicator (computer communicator, but I think that was an actual HP device about 10 years ago) would be better since it doesn&#039;t mean anything today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but if the point of inventing this new terminology is to clear up some alleged confusion in the marketplace, a term like &#8220;pocket computer&#8221; would only make things worse.  My N800 is clearly a pocket computer since it fits in my pocket and is a legitimate computer.  But it&#8217;s not a &#8220;phone&#8221; as most people understand that term since it can&#8217;t use any cell phone carrier to make calls.  Sure it can use Skype, SIP, etc. but that doesn&#8217;t make it a substitute for an iPhone, Pre or Droid.</p>
<p>A totally new term like comphone (computer phone) or computicator (computer communicator, but I think that was an actual HP device about 10 years ago) would be better since it doesn&#8217;t mean anything today.</p>
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		<title>By: turn.self.off</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[turn.self.off]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and thats exactly why i use &quot;pocket computer&quot;, as in theory the N800 can be used as a phone, via voip.

note what i said about 4G basically turning voice features into voip, thanks to it first and foremost being a data carrier, vs 2G and 3G having a dedicated voice channel with a &quot;bolted&quot; on (especially in the case of 2G/GSM where voice and data cant be used at the same time) data channel.

hell, had there not been issues with spirnts wimax efforts, resulting in nokia pulling the N810w, one could probably have used that as a (voip)phone already.

and thats where we are heading, just observe the N900, and how it puts skype, IM and email right next to voice and sms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and thats exactly why i use &#8220;pocket computer&#8221;, as in theory the N800 can be used as a phone, via voip.</p>
<p>note what i said about 4G basically turning voice features into voip, thanks to it first and foremost being a data carrier, vs 2G and 3G having a dedicated voice channel with a &#8220;bolted&#8221; on (especially in the case of 2G/GSM where voice and data cant be used at the same time) data channel.</p>
<p>hell, had there not been issues with spirnts wimax efforts, resulting in nokia pulling the N810w, one could probably have used that as a (voip)phone already.</p>
<p>and thats where we are heading, just observe the N900, and how it puts skype, IM and email right next to voice and sms.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are correct, and it has been fixed. May the umlauts win. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct, and it has been fixed. May the umlauts win. :)</p>
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		<title>By: cobalt</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that I think about it, &quot;internet phone&quot; is probably most accurate.  &quot;Smart phone&quot; was the result of PDAs, which were always conceived of as something you would synchronize with your computer&#039;s PIM, acquiring phone features.  

The model now is that we want a phone that can use the internet, more and more integration with internet services, and in the process the acquisition of functions that used to be tied to a hardwire networked terminal or computer (or recently to a notebook), like email, IM, etc.  A smartphone is a more useful utilization of those functions in many cases, because it&#039;s always on and always networked.  The main disadvantages come in because of limited screen real estate and user interaction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that I think about it, &#8220;internet phone&#8221; is probably most accurate.  &#8220;Smart phone&#8221; was the result of PDAs, which were always conceived of as something you would synchronize with your computer&#8217;s PIM, acquiring phone features.  </p>
<p>The model now is that we want a phone that can use the internet, more and more integration with internet services, and in the process the acquisition of functions that used to be tied to a hardwire networked terminal or computer (or recently to a notebook), like email, IM, etc.  A smartphone is a more useful utilization of those functions in many cases, because it&#8217;s always on and always networked.  The main disadvantages come in because of limited screen real estate and user interaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James, I think when you write úber-phone (with an acute accent), you really mean über-phone.  That is, the German umlaut mark should be above the small u.

I don&#039;t like &quot;app phone&quot; either because many of my older phones allowed me to develop and purchase apps.  There might not have been a vendor-provided &quot;app store&quot; but there were/are certainly places to purchase many different kinds of apps.  The fact that Verizon, Apple, et al. finally realized that they should organize (and profit from) the developer community surrounding their products, says nothing at all about the product itself, so &quot;app phone&quot; isn&#039;t a useful name.

&quot;Pocket computer&quot; isn&#039;t a good name because that could mean my Nokia N800 which is certainly a computer, but not a phone.

I would just stick with smart phone, partly because it&#039;s already out there and most people understand it immediately to be something more advanced than an a basic telephone.  But mostly because this market is changing really fast so any new name will probably sound quaint in a year or two.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I think when you write úber-phone (with an acute accent), you really mean über-phone.  That is, the German umlaut mark should be above the small u.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like &#8220;app phone&#8221; either because many of my older phones allowed me to develop and purchase apps.  There might not have been a vendor-provided &#8220;app store&#8221; but there were/are certainly places to purchase many different kinds of apps.  The fact that Verizon, Apple, et al. finally realized that they should organize (and profit from) the developer community surrounding their products, says nothing at all about the product itself, so &#8220;app phone&#8221; isn&#8217;t a useful name.</p>
<p>&#8220;Pocket computer&#8221; isn&#8217;t a good name because that could mean my Nokia N800 which is certainly a computer, but not a phone.</p>
<p>I would just stick with smart phone, partly because it&#8217;s already out there and most people understand it immediately to be something more advanced than an a basic telephone.  But mostly because this market is changing really fast so any new name will probably sound quaint in a year or two.</p>
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