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	<title>Comments on: REDFLY for the BlackBerry &#8212; Not the Solution You Were Looking For</title>
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		<title>By: johnkzin</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/redfly-for-the-blackberry-not-the-solution-you-were-looking-for/#comment-428649</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[johnkzin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still waiting for Redfly to release their promised version for Android phones.  That, and their &quot;Redfly Software&quot; (letting you use your own devices, instead of their &quot;netbook&quot;-ish device).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still waiting for Redfly to release their promised version for Android phones.  That, and their &#8220;Redfly Software&#8221; (letting you use your own devices, instead of their &#8220;netbook&#8221;-ish device).</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This really sucks, I just bought a tour just to use with the redfly and find out it doesn&#039;t work well with it. Hope they can fix it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really sucks, I just bought a tour just to use with the redfly and find out it doesn&#8217;t work well with it. Hope they can fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/redfly-for-the-blackberry-not-the-solution-you-were-looking-for/#comment-428647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The REDFLY is not compatible with either Storm, probably due to the larger screen resolution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The REDFLY is not compatible with either Storm, probably due to the larger screen resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Mic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t help but wonder if the interface would be improved if you were using the Storm or the Storm2 instead of the bold, or other half screen / half keyboard blackberry&#039;s. 

My contention is that the screen quality would actually improve since the landscape mode is more close to the redfly screen dimensions, as well as the cursor handling given the touch feature.

I&#039;m tempted to try it, but I would love to see if anyone else has tried.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but wonder if the interface would be improved if you were using the Storm or the Storm2 instead of the bold, or other half screen / half keyboard blackberry&#8217;s. </p>
<p>My contention is that the screen quality would actually improve since the landscape mode is more close to the redfly screen dimensions, as well as the cursor handling given the touch feature.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m tempted to try it, but I would love to see if anyone else has tried.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/redfly-for-the-blackberry-not-the-solution-you-were-looking-for/#comment-428645</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The screen looks better if stretching is turned off on the REDFLY, as I indicated. This only uses about a third of the 8-inch screen, and while it looks sharper it is only slightly bigger than the Bold&#039;s screen. Again, why have an 8-inch screen if only a portion of it can be used?

My conversations with Celio say they are working with RIM to allow interaction directly with the OS. When that is enabled, the display can be done properly (their word) as it is with WinMo. My take on that is that they should have waited.

If you are getting good use out of the REDFLY as it is currently implemented, I am happy for you. I couldn&#039;t use this longer than 5 or 10 minutes myself.

Celio also told me that Android will allow them to work with the display properly, so perhaps that should have been their second platform to release.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The screen looks better if stretching is turned off on the REDFLY, as I indicated. This only uses about a third of the 8-inch screen, and while it looks sharper it is only slightly bigger than the Bold&#8217;s screen. Again, why have an 8-inch screen if only a portion of it can be used?</p>
<p>My conversations with Celio say they are working with RIM to allow interaction directly with the OS. When that is enabled, the display can be done properly (their word) as it is with WinMo. My take on that is that they should have waited.</p>
<p>If you are getting good use out of the REDFLY as it is currently implemented, I am happy for you. I couldn&#8217;t use this longer than 5 or 10 minutes myself.</p>
<p>Celio also told me that Android will allow them to work with the display properly, so perhaps that should have been their second platform to release.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Hardy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/redfly-for-the-blackberry-not-the-solution-you-were-looking-for/#comment-428644</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Hardy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; But the fact is, due to the limitations 
&gt; of the BB OS itself, the trackpad will not
&gt; function like a trackpad. Why have one, 
&gt; in that event? Takes up space, currently 
&gt; not used by the display, and adds cost.

Are you suggesting that Celio should have made special hardware just for BlackBerrys? I prefer the current setup, where a single Redfly can be used with Windows Mobile, BlackBerry, and eventually Android. Making a version without a trackpad just for BB would remove that advantage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; But the fact is, due to the limitations<br />
&gt; of the BB OS itself, the trackpad will not<br />
&gt; function like a trackpad. Why have one,<br />
&gt; in that event? Takes up space, currently<br />
&gt; not used by the display, and adds cost.</p>
<p>Are you suggesting that Celio should have made special hardware just for BlackBerrys? I prefer the current setup, where a single Redfly can be used with Windows Mobile, BlackBerry, and eventually Android. Making a version without a trackpad just for BB would remove that advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Hardy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Hardy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there a way I can submit some photos of what I&#039;m seeing on the Redfly? Because mine looks far better than what is in your images. We&#039;re both using the Bold, so is it possible there are settings that are different?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a way I can submit some photos of what I&#8217;m seeing on the Redfly? Because mine looks far better than what is in your images. We&#8217;re both using the Bold, so is it possible there are settings that are different?</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/redfly-for-the-blackberry-not-the-solution-you-were-looking-for/#comment-428642</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ed, I respect your opinion of the REDFLY and I understand what you are saying. You and I have both used the WinMo version of the REDFLY, which handles the display and trackpad perfectly.

The fact is this BlackBerry model, and the shortcoming is clearly in the RIM OS, offers a fraction of the functionality of the WinMo version, at the same price. As for the unusability of the display, I&#039;ll let the photos I took of the screen speak for themselves. That&#039;s what the user sees, and in my view that is not usable for a device like this.

I agree with you that the addition of the larger keyboard can be important to BB owners, and the REDFLY delivers on that front. It&#039;s a tad too small to be a true touch-typable solution, but it&#039;s much better than the little phone keyboard.

As for the trackpad comments, again I appreciate what you are saying. But the fact is, due to the limitations of the BB OS itself, the trackpad will not function like a trackpad. Why have one, in that event? Takes up space, currently not used by the display, and adds cost.

As is always the case with mobile gadgets, everyone is different. I appreciate your lending your POV, but mine is as stated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, I respect your opinion of the REDFLY and I understand what you are saying. You and I have both used the WinMo version of the REDFLY, which handles the display and trackpad perfectly.</p>
<p>The fact is this BlackBerry model, and the shortcoming is clearly in the RIM OS, offers a fraction of the functionality of the WinMo version, at the same price. As for the unusability of the display, I&#8217;ll let the photos I took of the screen speak for themselves. That&#8217;s what the user sees, and in my view that is not usable for a device like this.</p>
<p>I agree with you that the addition of the larger keyboard can be important to BB owners, and the REDFLY delivers on that front. It&#8217;s a tad too small to be a true touch-typable solution, but it&#8217;s much better than the little phone keyboard.</p>
<p>As for the trackpad comments, again I appreciate what you are saying. But the fact is, due to the limitations of the BB OS itself, the trackpad will not function like a trackpad. Why have one, in that event? Takes up space, currently not used by the display, and adds cost.</p>
<p>As is always the case with mobile gadgets, everyone is different. I appreciate your lending your POV, but mine is as stated.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott M</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Celio does have a Windows version of the Redfly (called the Redfly viewier I believe) that lets you connect to a WinMo phone from a notebook, netbook, or desktop.  It can give it up to an 800x600 display in a window.  I trial tested it a while back, and it worked very well.  

If you always travel with a small notebook, the software version is well worth it because it does let you do &quot;phone&quot; things on a bigger screen.  (like those people that do a LOT of text messaging, a full keyboard is much nicer)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Celio does have a Windows version of the Redfly (called the Redfly viewier I believe) that lets you connect to a WinMo phone from a notebook, netbook, or desktop.  It can give it up to an 800&#215;600 display in a window.  I trial tested it a while back, and it worked very well.  </p>
<p>If you always travel with a small notebook, the software version is well worth it because it does let you do &#8220;phone&#8221; things on a bigger screen.  (like those people that do a LOT of text messaging, a full keyboard is much nicer)</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Hardy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Hardy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a user of the Redfly/BlackBerry combination, I have to disagree with much of this review. 

It&#039;s true, when the image from the BlackBerry is expanded to fill the Redfly&#039;s screen, pixels are enlarged, giving them a blocky look, but I&#039;d hardly call it &quot;unusable&quot;. In addition, there&#039;s a work-around for this: you can turn off the function that stretches the image to fill the screen. You still end up with an image that about twice the size of what&#039;s on your Blackberry, and it&#039;s as crisp as the smartphone&#039;s own display. I prefer the expanded version, but the other option is there.

I also disagree with the characterization of the cursor control as &quot;unusable&quot;. There&#039;s a learning curve, but once you get familiar with it, it&#039;s much easier. If you don&#039;t want to work through the curve, the arrow keys are always there, which I think is decent option. True, it&#039;s not ideal, but it&#039;s not that inconvenient, either.

And finally, I think it was a mistake to ignore the advantages of the large keyboard, one of the major strengths of the Redfly. I know people have grown accustomed to tapping out messages on their BlackBerry&#039;s tiny keyboard, but this accessory brings a a nearly full-size one to the mix. It lets me type much faster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a user of the Redfly/BlackBerry combination, I have to disagree with much of this review. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s true, when the image from the BlackBerry is expanded to fill the Redfly&#8217;s screen, pixels are enlarged, giving them a blocky look, but I&#8217;d hardly call it &#8220;unusable&#8221;. In addition, there&#8217;s a work-around for this: you can turn off the function that stretches the image to fill the screen. You still end up with an image that about twice the size of what&#8217;s on your Blackberry, and it&#8217;s as crisp as the smartphone&#8217;s own display. I prefer the expanded version, but the other option is there.</p>
<p>I also disagree with the characterization of the cursor control as &#8220;unusable&#8221;. There&#8217;s a learning curve, but once you get familiar with it, it&#8217;s much easier. If you don&#8217;t want to work through the curve, the arrow keys are always there, which I think is decent option. True, it&#8217;s not ideal, but it&#8217;s not that inconvenient, either.</p>
<p>And finally, I think it was a mistake to ignore the advantages of the large keyboard, one of the major strengths of the Redfly. I know people have grown accustomed to tapping out messages on their BlackBerry&#8217;s tiny keyboard, but this accessory brings a a nearly full-size one to the mix. It lets me type much faster.</p>
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		<title>By: Goathog02</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/redfly-for-the-blackberry-not-the-solution-you-were-looking-for/#comment-428639</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Goathog02]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I don’t get it, why does somebody need to blow up 3″ screen to 8″ and still use the same crap resolution ?&quot;

Why?  B/c I am already paying $30/month to use data on my phone.  To pay an additional $30 to tether to my laptop (and not use any more data than my phone uses) is the insane part.  All we want is a bigger screen.
Plus, with no RAM/HD/etc internal to the RedFly, TCO is lower over the long run.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t get it, why does somebody need to blow up 3″ screen to 8″ and still use the same crap resolution ?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why?  B/c I am already paying $30/month to use data on my phone.  To pay an additional $30 to tether to my laptop (and not use any more data than my phone uses) is the insane part.  All we want is a bigger screen.<br />
Plus, with no RAM/HD/etc internal to the RedFly, TCO is lower over the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Goathog02</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Goathog02]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What are the chances that the Android version will work better than this?  I, like may other readers here, REALLY REALLY want this to work.  $30/month to tether a laptop is insane.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the chances that the Android version will work better than this?  I, like may other readers here, REALLY REALLY want this to work.  $30/month to tether a laptop is insane.</p>
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		<title>By: nene</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[why would you need that ? typing long text messages ? They&#039;ve invented email for that..

word processing ? internet browsing ? powerpoint presentations ? image slideshows, watching porn...I think the netbook is gonna do all of those better then this &quot;magnifying glass for BB&quot; :)

I don&#039;t get it, why does somebody need to blow up 3&quot; screen to 8&quot; and still use the same crap resolution ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why would you need that ? typing long text messages ? They&#8217;ve invented email for that..</p>
<p>word processing ? internet browsing ? powerpoint presentations ? image slideshows, watching porn&#8230;I think the netbook is gonna do all of those better then this &#8220;magnifying glass for BB&#8221; :)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get it, why does somebody need to blow up 3&#8243; screen to 8&#8243; and still use the same crap resolution ?</p>
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		<title>By: jojo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jojo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[is there a way to use the blackberry on your netbook like this through software?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there a way to use the blackberry on your netbook like this through software?</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/redfly-for-the-blackberry-not-the-solution-you-were-looking-for/#comment-428635</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Celio is working on an Android version of the REDFLY for early next year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Celio is working on an Android version of the REDFLY for early next year.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/redfly-for-the-blackberry-not-the-solution-you-were-looking-for/#comment-428634</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is correct. I spoke with Celio about this and they are working with RIM to get OS-level access to the display. No timing on when they can update the REDFLY with this ability.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is correct. I spoke with Celio about this and they are working with RIM to get OS-level access to the display. No timing on when they can update the REDFLY with this ability.</p>
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