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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Cane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bah!  See my misadventure here.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Bah!  See my misadventure here.</p>
<p><a href="http://mikecane.wordpress.com/2007/06/20/lifedrive-notes-more-wifi-unfun/" rel="nofollow">http://mikecane.wordpress.com/2007/06/20/lifedrive-notes-more-wifi-unfun/</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/opera_mini_4_be/#comment-403121</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Dwight, are you using the mobile version of Google Mail?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Dwight, are you using the mobile version of Google Mail?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott_H</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/opera_mini_4_be/#comment-403122</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Once I got it to actually run on my Palm TX (it crashed several times when I first installed it), it didn&#039;t look too much different than the previous versions -- with the exception of the new web page thumbnail view (or whatever they call it) and virtual mouse thingy. This feature seemed neat, at first, but after a while it dawned on me that this was just the old &quot;pan-and-scan&quot; method slightly enhanced by the ability to use the &quot;virtual mouse&quot; to move around rather than having to use the &quot;scroll bars.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And, it still requires Palm users to load the IBM Websphere JVM  -- which eats up more than 1 meg of RAM space by itself.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Blazer has always been sufficient for me on my TX. I didn&#039;t really see anything in this new version of Opera Mini to make me want to switch. And, considering the additional overhead needed to install and run it on a Palm, and the fact that all of your data streams through someone else&#039;s servers, it&#039;s even less attractive to me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Off it came.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Once I got it to actually run on my Palm TX (it crashed several times when I first installed it), it didn&#8217;t look too much different than the previous versions &#8212; with the exception of the new web page thumbnail view (or whatever they call it) and virtual mouse thingy. This feature seemed neat, at first, but after a while it dawned on me that this was just the old &#8220;pan-and-scan&#8221; method slightly enhanced by the ability to use the &#8220;virtual mouse&#8221; to move around rather than having to use the &#8220;scroll bars.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, it still requires Palm users to load the IBM Websphere JVM  &#8212; which eats up more than 1 meg of RAM space by itself.</p>
<p>Blazer has always been sufficient for me on my TX. I didn&#8217;t really see anything in this new version of Opera Mini to make me want to switch. And, considering the additional overhead needed to install and run it on a Palm, and the fact that all of your data streams through someone else&#8217;s servers, it&#8217;s even less attractive to me.</p>
<p>Off it came.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Whalen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/opera_mini_4_be/#comment-403123</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Whalen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I keep trying it and trying it and I&#039;m just not excited. Yes, the &quot;desktop&quot; mode is interesting, but it really messed up the rendering of the few pages I tried it on. (Things like tables getting squished so everything&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Ugh. I don&#039;t know what I expected on a Blackberry, though. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>I keep trying it and trying it and I&#8217;m just not excited. Yes, the &#8220;desktop&#8221; mode is interesting, but it really messed up the rendering of the few pages I tried it on. (Things like tables getting squished so everything<br />
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<p>Ugh. I don&#8217;t know what I expected on a Blackberry, though. </p>
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		<title>By: Rodfather</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/opera_mini_4_be/#comment-403124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rodfather]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Opera Mobile is better for the Blackjack since it&#039;s a native WM5 app instead of a Java app.  There&#039;s also a S60 version.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Opera Mini is basically for phones that only have WAP browsers who want a better browser.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Opera Mobile is better for the Blackjack since it&#8217;s a native WM5 app instead of a Java app.  There&#8217;s also a S60 version.<br />
<a href="http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/" rel="nofollow">http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/</a></p>
<p>Opera Mini is basically for phones that only have WAP browsers who want a better browser.</p>
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		<title>By: Dwight Silverman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dwight Silverman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;This doesn&#039;t run well on my Samsung BlackJack ... but then the BlackJack doesn&#039;t play well with most of the 3rd-party apps I&#039;ve tried (Google&#039;s mail client, for example). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But even when it does run, it seems slow and clunky, at least with the BlackJack&#039;s rocker switch, and text quality is awful.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>This doesn&#8217;t run well on my Samsung BlackJack &#8230; but then the BlackJack doesn&#8217;t play well with most of the 3rd-party apps I&#8217;ve tried (Google&#8217;s mail client, for example). </p>
<p>But even when it does run, it seems slow and clunky, at least with the BlackJack&#8217;s rocker switch, and text quality is awful.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Miller</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/opera_mini_4_be/#comment-403126</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I ran this new browser on a T-Mobile Wing and a Nokia N95 and it ROCKS! I will be using it as my new default browser on the Wing and I hate to say it, but it even looks like it is beating the awesome S60 browser too. I wrote up some thoughts on my blog and find the quick navigation, plethora of shortcuts, full screen (no menus at all) and speed to be outstanding and better than the S60 browser so far.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I ran this new browser on a T-Mobile Wing and a Nokia N95 and it ROCKS! I will be using it as my new default browser on the Wing and I hate to say it, but it even looks like it is beating the awesome S60 browser too. I wrote up some thoughts on my blog and find the quick navigation, plethora of shortcuts, full screen (no menus at all) and speed to be outstanding and better than the S60 browser so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Ferris</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/opera_mini_4_be/#comment-403127</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Ferris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mixed reactions over with my Jaiku contacts, works on some N95s not on a couple of others.  Darla mack reporting that it is not recognised on her E62.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apart from the scrolling i am not sure it will give me a great deal so i am concentrating on the jaiku beta.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;hotspots of any sort being so rare I doing the tehter phone to notebook thing but at least it&#039;s a 3G signal :-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the subject of jaiku you really should come over guys, if it was a vacation i would describe it thusly:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;the water is warm, the sun is shining and there&#039;s plenty of fun to be had on the beach.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Mixed reactions over with my Jaiku contacts, works on some N95s not on a couple of others.  Darla mack reporting that it is not recognised on her E62.</p>
<p>Apart from the scrolling i am not sure it will give me a great deal so i am concentrating on the jaiku beta.</p>
<p>hotspots of any sort being so rare I doing the tehter phone to notebook thing but at least it&#8217;s a 3G signal :-)</p>
<p>On the subject of jaiku you really should come over guys, if it was a vacation i would describe it thusly:</p>
<p>the water is warm, the sun is shining and there&#8217;s plenty of fun to be had on the beach.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/opera_mini_4_be/#comment-403128</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Cane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ok, I&#039;ll bite.  I&#039;ll put it on my LifeDrive to give it a whirl.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This will make the THIRD damned browser on it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My main problem has been finding an open public (legal!) HotSpot.  One place now sends a Certificate the other 2 browsers can&#039;t handle.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And Bryant Park&#039;s WiFi seems to be down, dammit.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Ok, I&#8217;ll bite.  I&#8217;ll put it on my LifeDrive to give it a whirl.</p>
<p>This will make the THIRD damned browser on it.</p>
<p>My main problem has been finding an open public (legal!) HotSpot.  One place now sends a Certificate the other 2 browsers can&#8217;t handle.</p>
<p>And Bryant Park&#8217;s WiFi seems to be down, dammit.</p>
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