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		<title>By: Bfdonnelly</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Let&#039;s stop talking about megapixels in cameras, and start talking about them, along with _vertical_ dimensions, in laptops.  Repeat after me:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;I want a 1 megapixel screet 8 inches high.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Let&#8217;s stop talking about megapixels in cameras, and start talking about them, along with _vertical_ dimensions, in laptops.  Repeat after me:</p>
<p>&#8220;I want a 1 megapixel screet 8 inches high.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: William C Bonner</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I prefer the wide screen layout, I just wish higher resolution in general was the norm.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My laptop is 1280x768.  My desktop primary monitor is 1600x1050 and secondary monitor is 1280x1024.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m frustrated all the time by web sites that do slide shows and only the top half of each slide shows up on the screen of my laptop. A lot of the time, by the time I&#039;ve scrolled the page so I can see the entire slide, it auto-refreshes to the next slide.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t want a netbook that has a screen that isn&#039;t even as high resolution as the one I&#039;ve got.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>I prefer the wide screen layout, I just wish higher resolution in general was the norm.  </p>
<p>My laptop is 1280&#215;768.  My desktop primary monitor is 1600&#215;1050 and secondary monitor is 1280&#215;1024.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m frustrated all the time by web sites that do slide shows and only the top half of each slide shows up on the screen of my laptop. A lot of the time, by the time I&#8217;ve scrolled the page so I can see the entire slide, it auto-refreshes to the next slide.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want a netbook that has a screen that isn&#8217;t even as high resolution as the one I&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Luscious</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think we&#039;re &quot;giving up&quot; anything. Widescreens have made 17&quot; laptops viable, giving you WUXGA resolution, keyboards with numpads, full 1080p movie playback, spreadsheet cells galore, and fit two documents at 100% side-by-side. It&#039;s become the no-compromise platform for many power users. 16:9 gives you a far better use of that screen real estate, allowing for more room on your taskbar, open more tabs, and multitask work easier.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And it&#039;s the same argument for 30&quot; displays - fit more on screen.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;17&quot; laptop in 4:9? Good luck carrying it around.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re &#8220;giving up&#8221; anything. Widescreens have made 17&#8243; laptops viable, giving you WUXGA resolution, keyboards with numpads, full 1080p movie playback, spreadsheet cells galore, and fit two documents at 100% side-by-side. It&#8217;s become the no-compromise platform for many power users. 16:9 gives you a far better use of that screen real estate, allowing for more room on your taskbar, open more tabs, and multitask work easier.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s the same argument for 30&#8243; displays &#8211; fit more on screen.</p>
<p>17&#8243; laptop in 4:9? Good luck carrying it around.</p>
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		<title>By: bluemonq</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;@Ryan: Back when I was heavily using my T40p, I experimented with putting the laptop on its side, roatating the screen, and using a wireless keyboard and mouse. It actually worked pretty well, except for the small annoyance when I hooked up a printer to the side-mounted USB ports. Ended up with a cable sticking straight up pretty close to the screen, which was distracting.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Did get a lot of stares, though.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>@Ryan: Back when I was heavily using my T40p, I experimented with putting the laptop on its side, roatating the screen, and using a wireless keyboard and mouse. It actually worked pretty well, except for the small annoyance when I hooked up a printer to the side-mounted USB ports. Ended up with a cable sticking straight up pretty close to the screen, which was distracting.</p>
<p>Did get a lot of stares, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I have a nice VESA mount for my 16x10 Dell display.  In the same way that we &quot;lose real estate&quot; by going wide we could &quot;gain real estate&quot; by rotating the screen 90 degrees no?  Of course you can&#039;t really do this too easily with a normal laptop.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I have a nice VESA mount for my 16&#215;10 Dell display.  In the same way that we &#8220;lose real estate&#8221; by going wide we could &#8220;gain real estate&#8221; by rotating the screen 90 degrees no?  Of course you can&#8217;t really do this too easily with a normal laptop.</p>
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		<title>By: Math</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;You aren&#039;t necessarily losing pixels, but you are losing overall area.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A 15&quot; monitor with the 4:3 ratio will have more overall area than a 15&quot; 16:9 ratio.  However, more area does not mean more pixels, it&#039;s all about the resolution baby.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1024x768 = 786432 (4:3)&lt;br /&gt;
1280x720 = 921600 (16:9)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And there are many many more resolutions out there (some of them not fitting those ratios perfectly).  If you want to know how many pixels you&#039;ve got, multiply out your resolution.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>You aren&#8217;t necessarily losing pixels, but you are losing overall area.</p>
<p>A 15&#8243; monitor with the 4:3 ratio will have more overall area than a 15&#8243; 16:9 ratio.  However, more area does not mean more pixels, it&#8217;s all about the resolution baby.</p>
<p>1024&#215;768 = 786432 (4:3)<br />
1280&#215;720 = 921600 (16:9)</p>
<p>And there are many many more resolutions out there (some of them not fitting those ratios perfectly).  If you want to know how many pixels you&#8217;ve got, multiply out your resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: nomo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Relative pixel count needs to be considered when comparing one format to another. WXGA (1280x768) compares favorably to XGA (1024x768), but unfavorably to SVGA (1280x1024). Whether widescreen is &quot;better&quot; or &quot;offers more room&quot; depends on the relative point of comparison. If vertical pixel count is the same in two different displays, widescreen offers an advantage.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Relative pixel count needs to be considered when comparing one format to another. WXGA (1280&#215;768) compares favorably to XGA (1024&#215;768), but unfavorably to SVGA (1280&#215;1024). Whether widescreen is &#8220;better&#8221; or &#8220;offers more room&#8221; depends on the relative point of comparison. If vertical pixel count is the same in two different displays, widescreen offers an advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: WLS</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;The wider screens allow for more browser width so you don&#039;t have to scroll left and right all the time. It seems like web pages are standardizing on a size to fit a wide screen display better. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>The wider screens allow for more browser width so you don&#8217;t have to scroll left and right all the time. It seems like web pages are standardizing on a size to fit a wide screen display better. </p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Just put your taskbar on the side.  More room vertically, and easier to switch tasks on a tablet.  easy.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Just put your taskbar on the side.  More room vertically, and easier to switch tasks on a tablet.  easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jahan Khan Rashid</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;im all for a universal standard, todays 16:9 laptops have plenty of up/down pixels. Im for one glad that all my movies are played back on a &quot;movie Ratio&quot; Screen. Office work is fine, Games are perfect and movies are amazing on the 16:9 ratio. I agree it must be cheaper for manufacturers to stick to one ratio on all products.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>im all for a universal standard, todays 16:9 laptops have plenty of up/down pixels. Im for one glad that all my movies are played back on a &#8220;movie Ratio&#8221; Screen. Office work is fine, Games are perfect and movies are amazing on the 16:9 ratio. I agree it must be cheaper for manufacturers to stick to one ratio on all products.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Lobrecht</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;My wife&#039;s Dell Latitude D620 is 1440 x 900.  My Dell Latitude D600 is 1400 x 1050.  Both in theory have a 14.x&quot; screen, although the D620 is widescreen.  There are significantly more pixels in my old 4x3 screen than in my wife&#039;s 16x10 screen.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My MacBook is 1280x800.  This screen height is so short, I ended up with the Dock on the left hand edge of the screen.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>My wife&#8217;s Dell Latitude D620 is 1440 x 900.  My Dell Latitude D600 is 1400 x 1050.  Both in theory have a 14.x&#8221; screen, although the D620 is widescreen.  There are significantly more pixels in my old 4&#215;3 screen than in my wife&#8217;s 16&#215;10 screen.</p>
<p>My MacBook is 1280&#215;800.  This screen height is so short, I ended up with the Dock on the left hand edge of the screen.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Screen is a matter of personal preference and PC Mag is not saying we lose any pixels.  They are correct in pointing out that for those who work in the up/down direction like with long documents you do lose quite a bit.  Me, I like both format screens depending on what I&#039;m doing.  The widescreen format makes possible a smaller notebook and I&#039;m all for that.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Screen is a matter of personal preference and PC Mag is not saying we lose any pixels.  They are correct in pointing out that for those who work in the up/down direction like with long documents you do lose quite a bit.  Me, I like both format screens depending on what I&#8217;m doing.  The widescreen format makes possible a smaller notebook and I&#8217;m all for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sumocat</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe if PC Magazine devoted more time to following Tablet PC happenings, their &quot;revelation&quot; wouldn&#039;t be two years behind. Ever since widescreens started showing up more frequently a couple years back, I&#039;ve had plenty of discussions with tableteers comparing widescreen to legal pads and standard to letter. No one cares more about screen space than folks who work directly on the screen. :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I love my 14&quot; widescreen (and if you look back, you&#039;ll notice I consistently point out it&#039;s widescreen). Great for my horizontal work style, which includes inking across the full width. Right side&#039;s open for tools, like the ritePen toolbar and Inkseine&#039;s floating tool ring. And when I need vertical space, I flip to portrait. Isn&#039;t it nice to not bound by the trappings of a standard notebook?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Maybe if PC Magazine devoted more time to following Tablet PC happenings, their &#8220;revelation&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t be two years behind. Ever since widescreens started showing up more frequently a couple years back, I&#8217;ve had plenty of discussions with tableteers comparing widescreen to legal pads and standard to letter. No one cares more about screen space than folks who work directly on the screen. :)</p>
<p>I love my 14&#8243; widescreen (and if you look back, you&#8217;ll notice I consistently point out it&#8217;s widescreen). Great for my horizontal work style, which includes inking across the full width. Right side&#8217;s open for tools, like the ritePen toolbar and Inkseine&#8217;s floating tool ring. And when I need vertical space, I flip to portrait. Isn&#8217;t it nice to not bound by the trappings of a standard notebook?</p>
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		<title>By: Will Ginn</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;James I have had a &quot;square&quot; Dell LCD for a number of years and like the format a lot for my work. I drive it from a HP 14&quot; wide format laptop which is good for movies, etc., but not spreadsheets and other documents.&lt;br /&gt;
My employer gave me a ThinkPad T43 (heavy-noisy) but it has a &quot;square&quot; 15&quot; screen (and great keyboard) that works very well for side-by-side documents, PDFs, etc. I had a friend over a couple of weeks ago who has a X61 laptop with the 12&quot; square screen and I found it very easy to work with on a desktop or my lap in Starbucks.&lt;br /&gt;
My Dad has a 21&quot; HP LCD at home that he tethers to his laptop, and I don not like the &quot;squished&quot; format.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>James I have had a &#8220;square&#8221; Dell LCD for a number of years and like the format a lot for my work. I drive it from a HP 14&#8243; wide format laptop which is good for movies, etc., but not spreadsheets and other documents.<br />
My employer gave me a ThinkPad T43 (heavy-noisy) but it has a &#8220;square&#8221; 15&#8243; screen (and great keyboard) that works very well for side-by-side documents, PDFs, etc. I had a friend over a couple of weeks ago who has a X61 laptop with the 12&#8243; square screen and I found it very easy to work with on a desktop or my lap in Starbucks.<br />
My Dad has a 21&#8243; HP LCD at home that he tethers to his laptop, and I don not like the &#8220;squished&#8221; format.</p>
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		<title>By: LimpWrist</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;16:9, 16:10, 15:9 are all the current widescreen formats. 4:3 was the format of &quot;yesteryear&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i dont believe the myth we are losing real estate, we are just gaining extra horizontal width. just take a look at 1 example like XGA 1024 x 768 going to WXGA 1276 x 768.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;just because the screens are physically smaller doesnt mean we are losing pixels.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>16:9, 16:10, 15:9 are all the current widescreen formats. 4:3 was the format of &#8220;yesteryear&#8221;.</p>
<p>i dont believe the myth we are losing real estate, we are just gaining extra horizontal width. just take a look at 1 example like XGA 1024 x 768 going to WXGA 1276 x 768.</p>
<p>just because the screens are physically smaller doesnt mean we are losing pixels.</p>
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