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		<title>By: Slurp</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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        In 1982, in Normandy, working for a French Newspaper, i made a report on a restaurant with a touch box on each table to order meals.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        In 1982, in Normandy, working for a French Newspaper, i made a report on a restaurant with a touch box on each table to order meals.</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/no-virginia-tou/#comment-363002</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PalmPilot was very much after the Newton. Palm initially got their money from selling Graffiti for the Newton. Too bad Xerox in their greed shut that down, so new Palms use the awful Graffiti 2. The invention of single-stroke handwriting was sort of obvious. The practicality of it, not so much.

Along that line of thought, the convergence of computer-based hierarchical arrangements of MP3 tracks and computer-based portable MP3 player was sort of obvious. Boo on Creative and their entire corporate/legal team.

Along that line of thought, the convergence of computer-based touch screens and computer-based portable computer was sort of obvious. It was just a matter of seeing if technology could make it work reasonably, yet, and working out which UI was optimal.

According to Dan Bricklin:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bricklin.com/tabletcomputing.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bricklin.com/tabletcomputing.htm&lt;/a&gt;

Apparently the first was the GRiDPad from 1989, running a 10MHz 8086 and DOS. Its development seems independent of other efforts such as GO Computing&#039;s PenPoint (released 1992), which inspired Windows&#039; support for pens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PalmPilot was very much after the Newton. Palm initially got their money from selling Graffiti for the Newton. Too bad Xerox in their greed shut that down, so new Palms use the awful Graffiti 2. The invention of single-stroke handwriting was sort of obvious. The practicality of it, not so much.</p>
<p>Along that line of thought, the convergence of computer-based hierarchical arrangements of MP3 tracks and computer-based portable MP3 player was sort of obvious. Boo on Creative and their entire corporate/legal team.</p>
<p>Along that line of thought, the convergence of computer-based touch screens and computer-based portable computer was sort of obvious. It was just a matter of seeing if technology could make it work reasonably, yet, and working out which UI was optimal.</p>
<p>According to Dan Bricklin:<br />
<a href="http://www.bricklin.com/tabletcomputing.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.bricklin.com/tabletcomputing.htm</a></p>
<p>Apparently the first was the GRiDPad from 1989, running a 10MHz 8086 and DOS. Its development seems independent of other efforts such as GO Computing&#8217;s PenPoint (released 1992), which inspired Windows&#8217; support for pens.</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/no-virginia-tou/#comment-363003</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PalmPilot was very much after the Newton. Palm initially got their money from selling Graffiti for the Newton. Too bad Xerox in their greed shut that down, so new Palms use the awful Graffiti 2. The invention of single-stroke handwriting was sort of obvious. The practicality of it, not so much.

Along that line of thought, the convergence of computer-based hierarchical arrangements of MP3 tracks and computer-based portable MP3 player was sort of obvious. Boo on Creative and their entire corporate/legal team.

Along that line of thought, the convergence of computer-based touch screens and computer-based portable computer was sort of obvious. It was just a matter of seeing if technology could make it work reasonably, yet, and working out which UI was optimal.

According to Dan Bricklin:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bricklin.com/tabletcomputing.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bricklin.com/tabletcomputing.htm&lt;/a&gt;

Apparently the first was the GRiDPad from 1989, running a 10MHz 8086 and DOS. Its development seems independent of other efforts such as GO Computing&#039;s PenPoint (released 1992), which inspired Windows&#039; support for pens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PalmPilot was very much after the Newton. Palm initially got their money from selling Graffiti for the Newton. Too bad Xerox in their greed shut that down, so new Palms use the awful Graffiti 2. The invention of single-stroke handwriting was sort of obvious. The practicality of it, not so much.</p>
<p>Along that line of thought, the convergence of computer-based hierarchical arrangements of MP3 tracks and computer-based portable MP3 player was sort of obvious. Boo on Creative and their entire corporate/legal team.</p>
<p>Along that line of thought, the convergence of computer-based touch screens and computer-based portable computer was sort of obvious. It was just a matter of seeing if technology could make it work reasonably, yet, and working out which UI was optimal.</p>
<p>According to Dan Bricklin:<br />
<a href="http://www.bricklin.com/tabletcomputing.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.bricklin.com/tabletcomputing.htm</a></p>
<p>Apparently the first was the GRiDPad from 1989, running a 10MHz 8086 and DOS. Its development seems independent of other efforts such as GO Computing&#8217;s PenPoint (released 1992), which inspired Windows&#8217; support for pens.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyT</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Davin Peterson

I don&#039;t think Creative &quot;pioneered&quot; the MP3 Player.
I can remember when I bought a flash memory based MP3 player called the Diamond Rio like way way back in 1998. It was an extremely light player that had a huge 64MB DRAM and held about 1 CD worth of music encoded at 128kbps (10 to 12 songs). I thought is was so cool because it had no moving parts, super lightweight, about the size of a pager and held as much music as my Walkman cassette player. Also, I remember the Record Companies sued to stop the sale of the Rio but lost !
Anyway, my point is that Apple was YEARS behind other companies in the MP3 player market and quickly blew them all away.
Also, I remember shortly after buying the Rio I bought a 20GB hard disk based player that held thousands of songs in the palm of my hand, used 4 rechargeable/replaceable AA batteries and it was made by a company called Archos in Europe, I can&#039;t remember the exact year I bought it, but I know it was way before the Apple iPod came out.
So, Apple hardly invented portable MP3 players but I think they sure perfected them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Davin Peterson</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Creative &#8220;pioneered&#8221; the MP3 Player.<br />
I can remember when I bought a flash memory based MP3 player called the Diamond Rio like way way back in 1998. It was an extremely light player that had a huge 64MB DRAM and held about 1 CD worth of music encoded at 128kbps (10 to 12 songs). I thought is was so cool because it had no moving parts, super lightweight, about the size of a pager and held as much music as my Walkman cassette player. Also, I remember the Record Companies sued to stop the sale of the Rio but lost !<br />
Anyway, my point is that Apple was YEARS behind other companies in the MP3 player market and quickly blew them all away.<br />
Also, I remember shortly after buying the Rio I bought a 20GB hard disk based player that held thousands of songs in the palm of my hand, used 4 rechargeable/replaceable AA batteries and it was made by a company called Archos in Europe, I can&#8217;t remember the exact year I bought it, but I know it was way before the Apple iPod came out.<br />
So, Apple hardly invented portable MP3 players but I think they sure perfected them.</p>
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		<title>By: bluemonq</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I try to stay out of these, but...

@Tom: enjoy living in the RDF? Sure Apple developed APPLE&#039;S MultiTouch. You&#039;re missing the point. Little or no credit goes to the pioneers who actually did most of the gruntwork. Instead, all history is erased in the greater public&#039;s mind and it turns into &quot;Apple&#039;s innovation.&quot; That seems a very Microsoft-ish thing to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to stay out of these, but&#8230;</p>
<p>@Tom: enjoy living in the RDF? Sure Apple developed APPLE&#8217;S MultiTouch. You&#8217;re missing the point. Little or no credit goes to the pioneers who actually did most of the gruntwork. Instead, all history is erased in the greater public&#8217;s mind and it turns into &#8220;Apple&#8217;s innovation.&#8221; That seems a very Microsoft-ish thing to do.</p>
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		<title>By: InstantOn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[InstantOn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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        Yes terrible thing Apple Touch didn&#039;t invent touch but gee they sure as heck developed it to a fabulous level. The pleasure of using something so well executed is well a joy. Good design that entices customers is about development, that&#039;s something that Apple embraces and Microsoft and Palm seem to forget!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        Yes terrible thing Apple Touch didn&#8217;t invent touch but gee they sure as heck developed it to a fabulous level. The pleasure of using something so well executed is well a joy. Good design that entices customers is about development, that&#8217;s something that Apple embraces and Microsoft and Palm seem to forget!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find I&#039;m really enjoying this blog, and think you normally make excellent point, but in this case I must confess I&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re talking about. 

There&#039;s been &quot;touch&quot; on ATMs and gas pumps for what seems like forever. So what? Is it your contention that these are the same as Apple&#039;s MultiTouch? 

Even something that LOOKS similar, such as Microsoft&#039;s Surface, is just a series of cameras and projectors underneath the table top. It&#039;s technology that&#039;s been around for years. You think you can get that technology in a small device? Good luck. 

Apple&#039;s MT was developed by them, and patented all over the place. They surely borrowed ideas from elsewhere (as EVERY new technology has), but Apple made it, perfected it, and brought it to market. A sure sign it&#039;s something truly new is that everyone around them is trying to copy it (because It&#039;s not already &quot;out there&quot; somewhere to be used). To claim that my neighborhood&#039;s gas pump or some end table at a Vegas casino has the same technology is ridiculous. 

I don&#039;t think you&#039;re giving Apple anywhere near enough credit here. Perhaps you also think PARC invented the Mac interface? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find I&#8217;m really enjoying this blog, and think you normally make excellent point, but in this case I must confess I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re talking about. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s been &#8220;touch&#8221; on ATMs and gas pumps for what seems like forever. So what? Is it your contention that these are the same as Apple&#8217;s MultiTouch? </p>
<p>Even something that LOOKS similar, such as Microsoft&#8217;s Surface, is just a series of cameras and projectors underneath the table top. It&#8217;s technology that&#8217;s been around for years. You think you can get that technology in a small device? Good luck. </p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s MT was developed by them, and patented all over the place. They surely borrowed ideas from elsewhere (as EVERY new technology has), but Apple made it, perfected it, and brought it to market. A sure sign it&#8217;s something truly new is that everyone around them is trying to copy it (because It&#8217;s not already &#8220;out there&#8221; somewhere to be used). To claim that my neighborhood&#8217;s gas pump or some end table at a Vegas casino has the same technology is ridiculous. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re giving Apple anywhere near enough credit here. Perhaps you also think PARC invented the Mac interface? </p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heh...yeah, it is kind of funny how when Apple pulls a stunt like buying someone out and killing the technology, they&#039;re (well, Jobs) is called &quot;innovative&quot; and &quot;ahead of the curve&quot;. On the other hand, when Microsoft does it, they&#039;re called anti-competitive and promoting monopoly.

Still.

You&#039;d think the past 10 years might have set the records straight but I guess people see what they want to see, reality be damned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh&#8230;yeah, it is kind of funny how when Apple pulls a stunt like buying someone out and killing the technology, they&#8217;re (well, Jobs) is called &#8220;innovative&#8221; and &#8220;ahead of the curve&#8221;. On the other hand, when Microsoft does it, they&#8217;re called anti-competitive and promoting monopoly.</p>
<p>Still.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d think the past 10 years might have set the records straight but I guess people see what they want to see, reality be damned.</p>
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		<title>By: John in Norway</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John in Norway]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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        I remember, when I was a young teenager, that my girlfriend&#039;s breasts were extremely mobile and touch sensitive. That was 35 years ago! Does that count? In fact, I believe they were also multi-touch.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        I remember, when I was a young teenager, that my girlfriend&#8217;s breasts were extremely mobile and touch sensitive. That was 35 years ago! Does that count? In fact, I believe they were also multi-touch.</p>
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		<title>By: amit</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@pk de cville:
Yeah &amp; how did Microsoft find its way into what you were saying?? Your comment clearly shows who you are, a mere Apple fanboy!! :)

@Davin Peterson:
Apple actually admitted that they stole.. err... I mean used the designs of a british inventor in UK for their iPod. This was during a lawsuit which was filed against them on the iPod by someone &amp; Apple had to fly that guy over to US to give testimony in their case. It so happened that this british inventor had drawn up designs for an MP3 player &amp; patented them 30 years ago but didn&#039;t have money to extend the patent in 1980s so his patents went into public domain &amp; that&#039;s where Apple picked them up from &amp; created their *innovative* product iPod!! And they acknowledged this only when their own skin was on the line!! And aren&#039;t these the same guys who always moan &amp; cry that Microsoft stole their ideas??!! Huh!! Talk about sour grapes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pk de cville:<br />
Yeah &amp; how did Microsoft find its way into what you were saying?? Your comment clearly shows who you are, a mere Apple fanboy!! :)</p>
<p>@Davin Peterson:<br />
Apple actually admitted that they stole.. err&#8230; I mean used the designs of a british inventor in UK for their iPod. This was during a lawsuit which was filed against them on the iPod by someone &amp; Apple had to fly that guy over to US to give testimony in their case. It so happened that this british inventor had drawn up designs for an MP3 player &amp; patented them 30 years ago but didn&#8217;t have money to extend the patent in 1980s so his patents went into public domain &amp; that&#8217;s where Apple picked them up from &amp; created their *innovative* product iPod!! And they acknowledged this only when their own skin was on the line!! And aren&#8217;t these the same guys who always moan &amp; cry that Microsoft stole their ideas??!! Huh!! Talk about sour grapes!</p>
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