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	<title>Comments on: Mossberg on Windows 7 vs OS X &#8212; &#8220;A Toss Up&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: steven malan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/mossberg-on-windows-7-vs-os-x-a-toss-up/#comment-426753</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven malan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I looked back at articles  when Vista came out, and guess what, Mossberg praised Vista also! Don&#039;t
be fooled, Windows 7 has the same underpinnings as Vista. Both work  when brand new, but it won&#039;t be long  before they slow down to a crawl. Recent reviews say that Windows 7 takes longer to boot
than Vista does.  In short, I predict more disappointment  ahead for Widows users, a big SNAFU
for Microsoft.  How many more times can Redmond  use its smoke and mirror tactics? One of these
days its customer base will stop believing the hype, it maybe this time around!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked back at articles  when Vista came out, and guess what, Mossberg praised Vista also! Don&#8217;t<br />
be fooled, Windows 7 has the same underpinnings as Vista. Both work  when brand new, but it won&#8217;t be long  before they slow down to a crawl. Recent reviews say that Windows 7 takes longer to boot<br />
than Vista does.  In short, I predict more disappointment  ahead for Widows users, a big SNAFU<br />
for Microsoft.  How many more times can Redmond  use its smoke and mirror tactics? One of these<br />
days its customer base will stop believing the hype, it maybe this time around!</p>
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		<title>By: mr-crash</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/mossberg-on-windows-7-vs-os-x-a-toss-up/#comment-426752</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mr-crash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe - I don&#039;t think you have a very good understanding of the law if you&#039;re hoping Mossberg sues for this. Your 20 years argument did give me a good chuckle, given the rest of your rant. I&#039;m going to give you a 4/10.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8211; I don&#8217;t think you have a very good understanding of the law if you&#8217;re hoping Mossberg sues for this. Your 20 years argument did give me a good chuckle, given the rest of your rant. I&#8217;m going to give you a 4/10.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/mossberg-on-windows-7-vs-os-x-a-toss-up/#comment-426751</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin C. Tofel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Joe, are you trying to attack Mossberg, Microsoft or me? I&#039;m not sure of your point. If you think OS X is better than Windows, then use it. That&#039;s what I do -- use the best tool for the task. Often it&#039;s OS X, while at other times it&#039;s Windows or Linux. It might be a notebook, a netbook or my MacBook.  

Point being: Vote with your wallet and if you want to criticize Mossberg&#039;s article, his site takes comments too. ;) I&#039;m not sure if or how I came across as one of the &quot;fanboys&quot; you mention, but as I said in the post, I run both operating systems as needed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Joe, are you trying to attack Mossberg, Microsoft or me? I&#8217;m not sure of your point. If you think OS X is better than Windows, then use it. That&#8217;s what I do &#8212; use the best tool for the task. Often it&#8217;s OS X, while at other times it&#8217;s Windows or Linux. It might be a notebook, a netbook or my MacBook.  </p>
<p>Point being: Vote with your wallet and if you want to criticize Mossberg&#8217;s article, his site takes comments too. ;) I&#8217;m not sure if or how I came across as one of the &#8220;fanboys&#8221; you mention, but as I said in the post, I run both operating systems as needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/mossberg-on-windows-7-vs-os-x-a-toss-up/#comment-426750</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I&#039;ve used Windows 7 - and read extensively about it. Read the Computerworld review - Windows 7 is SLIGHTLY faster than Vista in their tests, but still quite a bit slower than XP.

Bottom line is that there&#039;s a 20 year history of &quot;Sure, the last version of Windows stunk, but THIS one will be better than a Mac&quot;. After 20 years, you get tired of the same old junk.

It&#039;s also interesting that Mossberg never says anything bad about anyone. For example, try this review of Vista when it first came out (before any of the service packs made it almost usable): &quot;After months of testing Vista on multiple computers, new and old, I believe it is the best version of Windows that Microsoft has produced&quot;

Gee- exactly the same words he used for Windows 7. That&#039;s comforting, isn&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;ve used Windows 7 &#8211; and read extensively about it. Read the Computerworld review &#8211; Windows 7 is SLIGHTLY faster than Vista in their tests, but still quite a bit slower than XP.</p>
<p>Bottom line is that there&#8217;s a 20 year history of &#8220;Sure, the last version of Windows stunk, but THIS one will be better than a Mac&#8221;. After 20 years, you get tired of the same old junk.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also interesting that Mossberg never says anything bad about anyone. For example, try this review of Vista when it first came out (before any of the service packs made it almost usable): &#8220;After months of testing Vista on multiple computers, new and old, I believe it is the best version of Windows that Microsoft has produced&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee- exactly the same words he used for Windows 7. That&#8217;s comforting, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: BBusyB</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/mossberg-on-windows-7-vs-os-x-a-toss-up/#comment-426749</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BBusyB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Let’s wait until let’s say 2 months after the release and watch how sucky it really is. For example, a number of published reports say that while it is slightly faster than Vista (heck, a drunken slug is faster than Vista), it is still far behind XP on real application performance.&quot;

Have YOU actually used Windows 7? Millions Users and reviewers have been running it since January, over 9 Months. Its not just a few elite rewiewers who are talking about how good the system is, but normal users. 

I&#039;ve been using it as My primary Operating system in a dual boot configuration since the beta (Over 6 Months) and its performance has been great. While it might be slightly slower (Less then 10%) on the same hardware, the improvements in usability and stability have been incredible.

Unless you are running Hardware intensive applications on older hardware, your not really going to notis a major slowdown compared to XP. And in many of those cases it is more of an issue of non optimized drivers and applications.

Running it in parallel with Snow Leopard over the past few weeks, its easy to see how both are mature systems, both having their strengths and weaknesses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let’s wait until let’s say 2 months after the release and watch how sucky it really is. For example, a number of published reports say that while it is slightly faster than Vista (heck, a drunken slug is faster than Vista), it is still far behind XP on real application performance.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have YOU actually used Windows 7? Millions Users and reviewers have been running it since January, over 9 Months. Its not just a few elite rewiewers who are talking about how good the system is, but normal users. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using it as My primary Operating system in a dual boot configuration since the beta (Over 6 Months) and its performance has been great. While it might be slightly slower (Less then 10%) on the same hardware, the improvements in usability and stability have been incredible.</p>
<p>Unless you are running Hardware intensive applications on older hardware, your not really going to notis a major slowdown compared to XP. And in many of those cases it is more of an issue of non optimized drivers and applications.</p>
<p>Running it in parallel with Snow Leopard over the past few weeks, its easy to see how both are mature systems, both having their strengths and weaknesses.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gavin Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh dear Joe.  One thing I&#039;ve learned in the same 20 odd years is that anyone using the term &#039;fanboy&#039; is infact tarnished by the very word they are using to insult others.  You&#039;re displaying the classic &#039;fanboy&#039; trait of bashing OS&#039;s you don&#039;t use.

As a user of Snow Leopard on my Macbook Pro, using Bootcamp with Windows 7, I can assure you that Windows 7 is a robust, modern and quick OS, as is OSX.  We&#039;d all be interested in some links to these &#039;reports&#039; you&#039;re quoting though.

Also, &#039;usability&#039; is an interesting argument to make.  I&#039;ve never found anything I couldn&#039;t do on either OS over the years, apart from the obvious gaming and app specific issues.

As far as I&#039;m concerned, I&#039;m excited at where we are today with the tech we have and the amazing OS&#039;s and Apps we can choose from.  Yet many people, like yourself, prefer the age old &#039;everything else sucks&#039; mantra.  There&#039;s a brave new tech world out there, you should embrace it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear Joe.  One thing I&#8217;ve learned in the same 20 odd years is that anyone using the term &#8216;fanboy&#8217; is infact tarnished by the very word they are using to insult others.  You&#8217;re displaying the classic &#8216;fanboy&#8217; trait of bashing OS&#8217;s you don&#8217;t use.</p>
<p>As a user of Snow Leopard on my Macbook Pro, using Bootcamp with Windows 7, I can assure you that Windows 7 is a robust, modern and quick OS, as is OSX.  We&#8217;d all be interested in some links to these &#8216;reports&#8217; you&#8217;re quoting though.</p>
<p>Also, &#8216;usability&#8217; is an interesting argument to make.  I&#8217;ve never found anything I couldn&#8217;t do on either OS over the years, apart from the obvious gaming and app specific issues.</p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned, I&#8217;m excited at where we are today with the tech we have and the amazing OS&#8217;s and Apps we can choose from.  Yet many people, like yourself, prefer the age old &#8216;everything else sucks&#8217; mantra.  There&#8217;s a brave new tech world out there, you should embrace it!</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/mossberg-on-windows-7-vs-os-x-a-toss-up/#comment-426747</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, that&#039;s EXACTLY what the headline says:

&quot;a toss up&quot;  vs. 

&quot;more of a toss up&quot;

means basically the same thing. Bear in mind that we have been running Windows 7 for a year now and are pretty sure you shouldn&#039;t hold your breath waiting for what you predict.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s EXACTLY what the headline says:</p>
<p>&#8220;a toss up&#8221;  vs. </p>
<p>&#8220;more of a toss up&#8221;</p>
<p>means basically the same thing. Bear in mind that we have been running Windows 7 for a year now and are pretty sure you shouldn&#8217;t hold your breath waiting for what you predict.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your headline is inaccurate. I hope Mossberg sues your butt all the way back to Redmond.

Mossberg stated that he gave Mac OS X the edge, but that it was &quot;more of a toss up&quot;. That&#039;s not what your headline says.

Furthermore, Let’s wait and see.

I’ve been hearing for something like 20 years how the NEXT version of Windows was going to be just as good as the Mac – if not better. Then, when it comes out, it continues to suck (although, other than Vista, not usually quite as bad as the previous version). Heck, even back in Windows 3.0 days (which was one of the worst operating systems EVER foisted on mankind, the WIndows fanboys were claiming that it was just as good.

Let’s wait until let’s say 2 months after the release and watch how sucky it really is. For example, a number of published reports say that while it is slightly faster than Vista (heck, a drunken slug is faster than Vista), it is still far behind XP on real application performance.

Reviewers praised 3.1, 95, 97, ME, XP, 2000, Vista, and any others that I’ve missed – but users continued to realize that they were miles away from Macs in usability.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your headline is inaccurate. I hope Mossberg sues your butt all the way back to Redmond.</p>
<p>Mossberg stated that he gave Mac OS X the edge, but that it was &#8220;more of a toss up&#8221;. That&#8217;s not what your headline says.</p>
<p>Furthermore, Let’s wait and see.</p>
<p>I’ve been hearing for something like 20 years how the NEXT version of Windows was going to be just as good as the Mac – if not better. Then, when it comes out, it continues to suck (although, other than Vista, not usually quite as bad as the previous version). Heck, even back in Windows 3.0 days (which was one of the worst operating systems EVER foisted on mankind, the WIndows fanboys were claiming that it was just as good.</p>
<p>Let’s wait until let’s say 2 months after the release and watch how sucky it really is. For example, a number of published reports say that while it is slightly faster than Vista (heck, a drunken slug is faster than Vista), it is still far behind XP on real application performance.</p>
<p>Reviewers praised 3.1, 95, 97, ME, XP, 2000, Vista, and any others that I’ve missed – but users continued to realize that they were miles away from Macs in usability.</p>
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		<title>By: turn.self.off</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[turn.self.off]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i would love to see virtualization on a chip, so that one could boot and switch between multiple os&#039;s as if one was using a kvm.

closest i have seen so far is a dual system motherboard, with a atom next to a core2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would love to see virtualization on a chip, so that one could boot and switch between multiple os&#8217;s as if one was using a kvm.</p>
<p>closest i have seen so far is a dual system motherboard, with a atom next to a core2.</p>
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		<title>By: GoodThings2Life</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GoodThings2Life]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hahaha, yeah, that&#039;d be the day. Well, there&#039;s always Hackintosh, right? And you can do that in VMware if you try hard enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha, yeah, that&#8217;d be the day. Well, there&#8217;s always Hackintosh, right? And you can do that in VMware if you try hard enough.</p>
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