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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Bill, I haven&#039;t seen any tests on battery life with the SSD option. My educated guess is that you&#039;ll see around a 15% increase in battery life, give or take.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Bill, I haven&#8217;t seen any tests on battery life with the SSD option. My educated guess is that you&#8217;ll see around a 15% increase in battery life, give or take.</p>
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		<title>By: bill harris</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Not to totally change the subject, but does anyone know what the battery life for the SSD is?  I would expect a pretty solid improvement in that option (although, not many are comfortable shelling out $3000, that&#039;s for sure).&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Not to totally change the subject, but does anyone know what the battery life for the SSD is?  I would expect a pretty solid improvement in that option (although, not many are comfortable shelling out $3000, that&#8217;s for sure).</p>
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		<title>By: Gaurav Sharma</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/macbook-air-rev/#comment-395305</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gaurav Sharma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Remember the original iPod batteries? There were complaints firing in all directions about the non-replaceable batteries on those early iPods. Apple seem to have stuck with that idea to this very day regardless,  and it&#039;s certainly not done them much harm. I doubt they&#039;ll ever put a changeable battery in the Air for that reason. In fact I&#039;d say it&#039;s reasonable to assume they&#039;ll carry the &quot;fixed battery&quot; approach over to the Pro line later this year too. The main reason you&#039;d want to swap out the battery is for, say, an extended battery to take its place. Apple&#039;s *never* offered extended batteries. So why let the user remove it? What are they going to replace it with if there&#039;s no other options? The only remaining rational for having a changeable then seems to be &quot;in case it breaks&quot;, but really, that&#039;s Apple&#039;s problem - it&#039;s not something the general buyer is expected to, well, expect in the product, and in the unlikely event that&#039;d happen, you&#039;d do the same as returning a faulty iPod with fixed battery.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think the battery life should&#039;ve been better, but the claims being made about the importance of removable battery for other reasons are a bit OTT, it&#039;s as if they just want the ability to dis-assemble the thing just for the sake of it (which is *not* what Macs are known for!).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Remember the original iPod batteries? There were complaints firing in all directions about the non-replaceable batteries on those early iPods. Apple seem to have stuck with that idea to this very day regardless,  and it&#8217;s certainly not done them much harm. I doubt they&#8217;ll ever put a changeable battery in the Air for that reason. In fact I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s reasonable to assume they&#8217;ll carry the &#8220;fixed battery&#8221; approach over to the Pro line later this year too. The main reason you&#8217;d want to swap out the battery is for, say, an extended battery to take its place. Apple&#8217;s *never* offered extended batteries. So why let the user remove it? What are they going to replace it with if there&#8217;s no other options? The only remaining rational for having a changeable then seems to be &#8220;in case it breaks&#8221;, but really, that&#8217;s Apple&#8217;s problem &#8211; it&#8217;s not something the general buyer is expected to, well, expect in the product, and in the unlikely event that&#8217;d happen, you&#8217;d do the same as returning a faulty iPod with fixed battery.</p>
<p>I think the battery life should&#8217;ve been better, but the claims being made about the importance of removable battery for other reasons are a bit OTT, it&#8217;s as if they just want the ability to dis-assemble the thing just for the sake of it (which is *not* what Macs are known for!).</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/macbook-air-rev/#comment-395306</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I question even the ability to use external batteries with that MagSafe connector Apple uses.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I question even the ability to use external batteries with that MagSafe connector Apple uses.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodfather</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/macbook-air-rev/#comment-395307</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you take your device outside the house, there&#039;s always a concern with battery life.  I always take an external Tekkeon battery with the Fujitsu U810.  Although I can get 5 hrs out of it I&#039;m finding I&#039;m using the Tekkeon quite a lot.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Once your battery gets passed the 50% left mark, you&#039;re going to worry.  &lt;br /&gt;
Going to Starbucks and streaming your favorite Youtube videos for only little over an hour will probably get you to that 50% mark with the Air.  For a notebook with no way to swap out a battery, it&#039;s definitely a concern.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>If you take your device outside the house, there&#8217;s always a concern with battery life.  I always take an external Tekkeon battery with the Fujitsu U810.  Although I can get 5 hrs out of it I&#8217;m finding I&#8217;m using the Tekkeon quite a lot.  </p>
<p>Once your battery gets passed the 50% left mark, you&#8217;re going to worry.  <br />
Going to Starbucks and streaming your favorite Youtube videos for only little over an hour will probably get you to that 50% mark with the Air.  For a notebook with no way to swap out a battery, it&#8217;s definitely a concern.</p>
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		<title>By: Slavior</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m with Kevin on this one: I was actually hoping that Apple was overly pessimistic with the battery life estimates, like they are for iPods. But 3.5 hours of realistic usage isn&#039;t anything to write home about.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair to throw out numbers about how few people carry a spare battery when traveling. Those numbers include 95% of the laptops that were never meant to be used as highly portable computers and their owners rarely remove them from their homes. I would argue that a disproportionately higher number of Air users would want a removable battery. I know that having an extra battery with me at a conference floor for example saved me at times, but more importantly even when it didn&#039;t just the fact that I knew I could use my computer freely let me get stuff done without thinking &quot;I shouldn&#039;t power it on now, I might not have enough juice in the afternoon&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m with Kevin on this one: I was actually hoping that Apple was overly pessimistic with the battery life estimates, like they are for iPods. But 3.5 hours of realistic usage isn&#8217;t anything to write home about.</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to throw out numbers about how few people carry a spare battery when traveling. Those numbers include 95% of the laptops that were never meant to be used as highly portable computers and their owners rarely remove them from their homes. I would argue that a disproportionately higher number of Air users would want a removable battery. I know that having an extra battery with me at a conference floor for example saved me at times, but more importantly even when it didn&#8217;t just the fact that I knew I could use my computer freely let me get stuff done without thinking &#8220;I shouldn&#8217;t power it on now, I might not have enough juice in the afternoon&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: GoodThings2Life</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/macbook-air-rev/#comment-395309</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Batteries are always a concern among actual laptop users. Anyone who claims otherwise is probably sitting at a desk all day and is always plugged in-- in which case, why have a laptop at all?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you&#039;re a mobile &quot;road warrior&quot; who is constantly roaming around, you want as much battery life as possible OR have an extended/spare battery to swap out as needed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even if you&#039;re only occasionally mobile, you still have to consider that EVERY battery loses its capacity to hold a charge over time. Li-Ion batteries lose approx. 20% of their battery life per year regardless of how you use it, more if you let it drain frequently and perform full charges all the time.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why does that matter? Because at a minimum, you should be able to replace a dead or dying battery without having to ship the laptop in for service or taking it to an Apple Store for &quot;major surgery&quot;. Any time another company does this it&#039;s considered an outrage, but somehow MBA buyers think it&#039;s acceptable. Go figure.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Batteries are always a concern among actual laptop users. Anyone who claims otherwise is probably sitting at a desk all day and is always plugged in&#8211; in which case, why have a laptop at all?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a mobile &#8220;road warrior&#8221; who is constantly roaming around, you want as much battery life as possible OR have an extended/spare battery to swap out as needed.</p>
<p>Even if you&#8217;re only occasionally mobile, you still have to consider that EVERY battery loses its capacity to hold a charge over time. Li-Ion batteries lose approx. 20% of their battery life per year regardless of how you use it, more if you let it drain frequently and perform full charges all the time.</p>
<p>Why does that matter? Because at a minimum, you should be able to replace a dead or dying battery without having to ship the laptop in for service or taking it to an Apple Store for &#8220;major surgery&#8221;. Any time another company does this it&#8217;s considered an outrage, but somehow MBA buyers think it&#8217;s acceptable. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Kevin:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have tried, tried and tried again to find a &quot;mobile&quot; device.  I&#039;ve owned what seems like every phone under the sun, and finally ditched my Treo since I was tired of constantly rebooting every WM device I have ever owned and have been carrying around an iPhone and sometimes a blackberry as well for work.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Computerwise, I go back to the days of the Kaypro (which still remains one of my all time favorite machines).  I have bought and etiher sold or returned a UX, Q1 and OQO - each for various reasons, but in large part due to battery issues.  There were portions of each machine that I liked very much - but carrying around such a small and cool machine is only good if I can actually get to use it, rather then take it out, turn it on and then shut it off as quick as possible due to battery fears.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Although I gave up my TC1000 about a year or so ago, the most &quot;mobile&quot; machine that I use while not a UMPC, is one of the older Sony TX models.  It is less then 3 pounds, with a built in optical drive, very decent sized keyboard and which still routinely gives me 5+ hours of battery no matter what I am doing on it.  In fact, tomorrow I am traveling and I have downloaded 2 rental movies from iTunes at least one of which I will watch while flying cross country.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I still long for a real computing device that I can carry around with me all day in my suit pocket and use with minimal compromise, but I don&#039;t believe that day has come yet.  I was truly hoping that Apple was going to release some type of large form iPhone as a true subnotebook and I would have pre-ordered that immediately.  The Air looks great, but knowing my needs, I&#039;m going to have to stick with the T series for a while longer.  3 houts on an $1800+ machine doesn&#039;t cut it for me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Kevin:</p>
<p>I have tried, tried and tried again to find a &#8220;mobile&#8221; device.  I&#8217;ve owned what seems like every phone under the sun, and finally ditched my Treo since I was tired of constantly rebooting every WM device I have ever owned and have been carrying around an iPhone and sometimes a blackberry as well for work.</p>
<p>Computerwise, I go back to the days of the Kaypro (which still remains one of my all time favorite machines).  I have bought and etiher sold or returned a UX, Q1 and OQO &#8211; each for various reasons, but in large part due to battery issues.  There were portions of each machine that I liked very much &#8211; but carrying around such a small and cool machine is only good if I can actually get to use it, rather then take it out, turn it on and then shut it off as quick as possible due to battery fears.</p>
<p>Although I gave up my TC1000 about a year or so ago, the most &#8220;mobile&#8221; machine that I use while not a UMPC, is one of the older Sony TX models.  It is less then 3 pounds, with a built in optical drive, very decent sized keyboard and which still routinely gives me 5+ hours of battery no matter what I am doing on it.  In fact, tomorrow I am traveling and I have downloaded 2 rental movies from iTunes at least one of which I will watch while flying cross country.</p>
<p>I still long for a real computing device that I can carry around with me all day in my suit pocket and use with minimal compromise, but I don&#8217;t believe that day has come yet.  I was truly hoping that Apple was going to release some type of large form iPhone as a true subnotebook and I would have pre-ordered that immediately.  The Air looks great, but knowing my needs, I&#8217;m going to have to stick with the T series for a while longer.  3 houts on an $1800+ machine doesn&#8217;t cut it for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Willy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;The geeks always dread about replacement battery and the hippie always looks for the hype.  Hmm... let me guess which one are you....&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>The geeks always dread about replacement battery and the hippie always looks for the hype.  Hmm&#8230; let me guess which one are you&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m with Lee on this one.  I&#039;ve seen at least one OQO use case where the owner carried a Tekkeon battery pack, the Tekkeon&#039;s Air/Auto adapter, and the OQO&#039;s Air/Auto adapter in order to patch together an external power solution that *weighs more than the computer itself.*&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m sure that&#039;s great when you&#039;re on the road, and just want to top off the main battery, but we have to remember how spoiled we truly are.  Back in Ye Olde Days, we had truly ultra-mobile computers which lasted for days (sometimes weeks!) on a pair of alkaline batteries.  The oldschool Palm devices come to mind, along with the great granddaddy, the HP LX series.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No, they didn&#039;t run the same exact apps that ran on your desktop.  No, they didn&#039;t have big colorful screen.  And of course, no, they didn&#039;t even have radios in them!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At the end of the day, though, that&#039;s where we all seem to want to be.  2008 high-powered features, with the advantages of 1994&#039;s low-powered designs.  I would *love* a system that could last for days, if not weeks, in standby, and still deliver 8+ hours of real usability before even warning me about plugging in.  I like the overall idea of being able to forget to charge something for a single night, without having to change my usage profile the next day.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How often, after all, did someone walk around with a dead PalmOS device prior to the advance of color screens and ultra-thin luxury models?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m with Lee on this one.  I&#8217;ve seen at least one OQO use case where the owner carried a Tekkeon battery pack, the Tekkeon&#8217;s Air/Auto adapter, and the OQO&#8217;s Air/Auto adapter in order to patch together an external power solution that *weighs more than the computer itself.*</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s great when you&#8217;re on the road, and just want to top off the main battery, but we have to remember how spoiled we truly are.  Back in Ye Olde Days, we had truly ultra-mobile computers which lasted for days (sometimes weeks!) on a pair of alkaline batteries.  The oldschool Palm devices come to mind, along with the great granddaddy, the HP LX series.</p>
<p>No, they didn&#8217;t run the same exact apps that ran on your desktop.  No, they didn&#8217;t have big colorful screen.  And of course, no, they didn&#8217;t even have radios in them!</p>
<p>At the end of the day, though, that&#8217;s where we all seem to want to be.  2008 high-powered features, with the advantages of 1994&#8242;s low-powered designs.  I would *love* a system that could last for days, if not weeks, in standby, and still deliver 8+ hours of real usability before even warning me about plugging in.  I like the overall idea of being able to forget to charge something for a single night, without having to change my usage profile the next day.</p>
<p>How often, after all, did someone walk around with a dead PalmOS device prior to the advance of color screens and ultra-thin luxury models?</p>
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