Keep Vista or roll back to Windows XP? That is the question

The recent news that Dell is going to be offering Windows XP on 6 models of new PCs (again) wasn’t surprising to me. Dell reportedly made the policy change in response to customer voting on their IdeaStorm website where customers can enter suggestions to the PC maker. Dell had only been offering Vista on new PCs since it was released to OEMs earlier this year and the decision to offer XP again was not something that Microsoft was happy to hear, I’m sure. I have been running Vista on my Fujitsu P1610 since early this year and while there are many things I really like about the new OS there is at least one time each day that I wish I still had Windows XP installed.
I’m not exaggerating, at least once per day during my mobile meanderings Vista does something that holds me up and makes me sit there twiddling my thumbs. When this happens there are usually other people present who have to wait for the Fuji to come back to life too. I realize that the P1610 is not a powerhouse PC with it’s 1.2 GHz Core Solo processor, 1 GB of memory and integrated graphics but it was tagged as "Vista Capable" and it does run Aero Glass so I would expect at least acceptable performance and most of the time I do get that. My quandary emphasizes that old adage that the whole is only as strong as the weakest link in the chain.
First the good things about Vista that keeps me coming back day after day. The Tablet PC functionality is outstanding and makes interfacing with the Fuji so much easier than XP in every way. The new Tablet Input Panel (TIP) not only looks better but it works much more productively and makes the Tablet functions feel like an integrated part of the OS, which they are. The ability to train the recognizer is a tremendous improvement over the XP version and makes the handwriting recognition even more accurate, believe it or not.
I find the whole Vista interface easier to operate with either the pen or my finger (the P1610 is a touch screen Tablet) in almost every way. There are a lot of interface improvements and I won’t list them all here as that’s not the purpose of this article. Suffice it to say that I really like the interface and would hate to give it up.
So with all the good things in Vista why do I keep coming back to the question of rolling back to Windows XP? If I had to sum it up in one word it would be unpredictability. Vista runs fine almost all the time and the performance is fine even on my anemic hardware. The problem is that I can’t predict when it’s going to enter into one of its disk thrashing fits that totally paralyzes me. I’ve documented these thrashing episodes and they can last 5 minutes or more, with me sitting there like a fool, needing to get something done and not able to do so. I’ve had observers comment on these bouts and ask what’s causing them, something I can’t answer.
Little actions that execute perfectly under Windows XP can trigger these paralytic episodes, but not every time. Docking and undocking the Fuji can be an exercise in frustration, with the screen changes as it connects to my external monitor sometimes triggering bizarre behavior and total system stoppage. Docking the Fuji can take 30 seconds to make these adjustments or it can take 5 minutes. It’s very strange. Even undocking the Fuji which should just involve it disengaging itself from the peripherals attached to the dock can be quick or painfully slow. There’s no rhyme nor reason and I often feel like I’m flipping a coin to determine if it will be a quick and normal operation or a slow and irritating action. This just isn’t right.
Rotating the screen orientation is something I do a lot during the day as I go from slate to laptop modes and back and I experience the same frustrations. I never know if it’s going to be quick and painless or productivity halting. It’s the same thing either entering Standby or resuming from it. I’m ready to throw the Fuji into the bag after telling it to standby and I have to sit and wait to make sure it totally shuts down. I can’t throw it into the bag while it’s shutting down because if it takes 5 minutes it will get super-hot in the bag.
Every time one of these system stoppages occurs the disk is thrashing so much I’m afraid something is going to go wrong and it will not come back. It has always come back so far (knock on wood) but the fear is there, heavy disk thrashing has never had a happy ending prior to Vista. I cannot believe that with the programs I have running most of the time that there is a need for all of this paging or whatever is causing this slowdown. I can think of no good reason for the paging if that’s what it is because I never have more than three programs running at once, I’ve never liked keeping a bunch of programs open.
So I continue on, every day loving that which is Vista until it makes me hate it so. And every day I swear I’m going to roll back to Windows XP. If it wasn’t such a big ordeal to switch back I would have already done it. And I’m sure that once I rolled back to XP I would be lamenting how much I miss Vista.
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I completely understand what you mean… I experienced the same issues during the beta period (up through and including the final RC releases). Ultimately, despite the benefits of the TabletPC functionality, there was far more to irritate me than impress me, and I concluded that SP1 was the next time I would give any attention to Vista.
I keep hearing folk say that 2gb of memory is the bare minimum to run Vista successfully. Vista supposedly has a dynamic memory management system what with Superfetch and Readyboost – poor drivers may well be causing problems as the system tries to allocate or free memory resources. Even on my win xp tablet pc edition Fujitsu, I’ve experienced these inexplicable hangs and switched off everything from indexing services to automatic updates in an attempt to resolve them.
James: I experience the same things you do with Vista on my P1610. The docking/undocking; the slowness in going to Sleep mode (only to find when I get home that it is incredibly hot in my bag); the freezing when moving between Office applications (it takes so long).
I don’t know if its a RAM thing, an OS thing or whatever. Here at the University, our IT people are telling the same thing as GoodThings2Life says, that they will not move onto Vista at least until SP1 comes out. I think I understand why…
With all this said though, and you may be in the same boat. Should we go back? I don’t think so, this is partially about learning as you go, and taking the good with the bad. And you have done a good job of pointing out the good, which outweighs (IMHO) the bad.
It is very hard to see the value that Vista brings to computing. If I upgrade,I basically make my hardware obsolete or inoperative due to lack of drivers. Like most uses, I will probably never scratch the surface of the functionality offered by even Windows XP. I would like to propose that operating systems get smaller and more efficient with each release Just as electronics get smaller and faster with each new generation. Call it a crazy dream, but it would even be cool to be able to cut down the bloat of the Operating System by deselecting more options at installation.would like to see a trend of smaller and faster vs. bloated, unneeded functionality. (.02) Hitch
This makes me wonder if I should even consider an UMPC with Vista.
I probably didn’t give Vista enough time to grow on me, but after only about a week, I re-imaged my Q1 and re-installed XP. For me, the killer was listening to music on Windows Media Player and having the controls be totally unresponsive. Say I’m jamming to music and get a phone call. I reach for the volume and nothing happens for 10-15 seconds. Not good. For me, either Vista is not good enough for my computer or my computer is not good enough for Vista. Either way, this box is staying XP for now.
The UMPC experience is great! Please do not let my frustration with software development prevent you from joining the party. I have a Fujitsu P1610 I and would mot trade it for anything currently on the market. I just wish the operating systems were bit more efficient with resources, that’s all.
I have just one Very, Very Stupid Question. OK, I’ve warned you. Now here it is:
Will anything that currently runs under XP run under Vista?
I haven’t paid too much attention (obviously!), but the thing that concerns me is obsoleting all the current tools that I use under XP that are just indispensable for me.
I use Firefox and a bunch of extensions, I use FLV Player and vlc, I use a free photo editing program called Photo Toolkit, and others. I’d hate to have these all trashed just for a new OS (an OS which seems like it not too hot anyway in terms of getting things done quickly).
OK, you may laugh now.
But then reply!
Mike, I don’t have any programs that will not work under Vista. In the beta period there were quite a few of them that wouldn’t work but now everyone has updated their programs to make sure they will work. Of course, I don’t use all the free junk that you use so YMMV. Firefox rocks in Vista, however, along with all the various extensions I use.
Lots of things don’t quite work well in Vista.
Many drivers don’t quite work (see http://mobilepcwiki.com/mpc/index.php?title=Motion/LS800/Windows_Vista_Clean_Install_Notes for some examples).
Many programs don’t quite work either. Windows Mail has a bunch of serious bugs. Firefox has the hyperlink bug detailed at http://kb.mozillazine.org/Windows_error_opening_Internet_shortcut_or_local_HTML_file_-_Firefox and some extensions don’t work (most notably for Tablet PC users, GeckoTIP). And of course Apple hasn’t made it out to CompUSA to get a copy of Vista, and offers QuickTime only for Windows XP and 2000, and asks “Running QuickTime on VISTA? Give us your feedback.” on http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/win.html.
I’ve been recommending that people get Vista only if they are a developer, a Tablet PC user, or need the new computer now. However, many Tablet PC users, when they hear of the level of problems, decide to wait for the Vista experience to be improved.