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		<title>By: Marco Scheel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/jkontherun-brow/#comment-368736</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;i&#039;m using Google Reader to keep track of your site. so i normaly won&#039;t get in your stats (today giving vista and ie7 a boost ;-). i would expect google will cache the result for all google reader subscribers so stats are not that simple to analyse... or are they?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;feedburner has a item read feature which places an image inside the feed item... maybe this will help.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;ciao marco&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>i&#8217;m using Google Reader to keep track of your site. so i normaly won&#8217;t get in your stats (today giving vista and ie7 a boost ;-). i would expect google will cache the result for all google reader subscribers so stats are not that simple to analyse&#8230; or are they?</p>
<p>feedburner has a item read feature which places an image inside the feed item&#8230; maybe this will help.</p>
<p>ciao marco</p>
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		<title>By: mw65719</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/jkontherun-brow/#comment-368737</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;The ratio between XP and Vista (and also the screen size) can probably (at least partially) be explained by where people are when they visit your website.&lt;br /&gt;
I can imagine that many visitors are at work when they look at jkontherun.com (including myself).&lt;br /&gt;
Most companies - especially the larger ones - have not switched to Vista yet (and probably will never do but go directly to W7) as they are shying away from the migration effort and cost. If I think back at how long it took the company I am working for (a global bank with ~100,000 workstations) to switch from W2000 to XP ...&lt;br /&gt;
And obviously, most desktop PCs (or docked laptops) use large screens.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>The ratio between XP and Vista (and also the screen size) can probably (at least partially) be explained by where people are when they visit your website.<br />
I can imagine that many visitors are at work when they look at jkontherun.com (including myself).<br />
Most companies &#8211; especially the larger ones &#8211; have not switched to Vista yet (and probably will never do but go directly to W7) as they are shying away from the migration effort and cost. If I think back at how long it took the company I am working for (a global bank with ~100,000 workstations) to switch from W2000 to XP &#8230;<br />
And obviously, most desktop PCs (or docked laptops) use large screens.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey Segal</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/jkontherun-brow/#comment-368738</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mickey Segal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I do most of my browsing at 1680 x 1050 but do so with a Motion LS800 that has tablet resolution of 800 x 600.  So my visits show up mostly as having a large monitor but it doesn&#039;t indicate that I prefer a tablet with a large screen, it just means that I have a different resolution when mobile and when docked.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I do most of my browsing at 1680 x 1050 but do so with a Motion LS800 that has tablet resolution of 800 x 600.  So my visits show up mostly as having a large monitor but it doesn&#8217;t indicate that I prefer a tablet with a large screen, it just means that I have a different resolution when mobile and when docked.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/jkontherun-brow/#comment-368739</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;The problem is that your stats wont accurately reflect all of your viewers as many will be reading via RSS and other syndicated feeds. I read every day but I visit less than once every few months when I feel like posting a comment.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is also possible that your more tech savvy readers are reading via RSS- it might explain why OSX has a larger percentage share of visits?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Either way, it might be an interesting experiment to make a post which encourages everyone to follow an arbitrary link to another page on the site to see just how many people are reading the posts off site.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>The problem is that your stats wont accurately reflect all of your viewers as many will be reading via RSS and other syndicated feeds. I read every day but I visit less than once every few months when I feel like posting a comment.</p>
<p>It is also possible that your more tech savvy readers are reading via RSS- it might explain why OSX has a larger percentage share of visits?</p>
<p>Either way, it might be an interesting experiment to make a post which encourages everyone to follow an arbitrary link to another page on the site to see just how many people are reading the posts off site.</p>
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		<title>By: TN</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/jkontherun-brow/#comment-368740</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Yeah, Firefox 3 looks pretty and has lot of great features, but like others here my firefox 3 constantly crashes on my vista running tx2500. I am thinking about moving back to firefox 2.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Yeah, Firefox 3 looks pretty and has lot of great features, but like others here my firefox 3 constantly crashes on my vista running tx2500. I am thinking about moving back to firefox 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Srini</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Great Info !! A few random thoughts...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We may have to note that rather than &quot;visitors&quot; we should think of &quot;number of visits&quot;.Could be same visitor from different OS/ Browsers in different environemnts(office/home) or different computer.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There may be many like me who work on dual-boot computers[Vista and Ubuntu]. I login randomly depending on the mood to any of these OS&#039;es. On Ubuntu i use Opera or Firefox [once again it is random]. Not sure how many % of your visitors would be dual-boots. May be less. But if they are more then the stats.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;OS adoption will drive the browser stats. Given Firefox,Opera,Safari can run on Windows and IE can&#039;t run on other Mac or Linux.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To really see, if IE is losing out becasue of other browsers compared against other OSes, we have to represent the browser share graph per every OS and analyze browser data for the Windows OS to see if a lot of them are firefox /opera. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Overall, very interesting post representing the picture.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Great Info !! A few random thoughts&#8230;</p>
<p>We may have to note that rather than &#8220;visitors&#8221; we should think of &#8220;number of visits&#8221;.Could be same visitor from different OS/ Browsers in different environemnts(office/home) or different computer.</p>
<p>There may be many like me who work on dual-boot computers[Vista and Ubuntu]. I login randomly depending on the mood to any of these OS&#8217;es. On Ubuntu i use Opera or Firefox [once again it is random]. Not sure how many % of your visitors would be dual-boots. May be less. But if they are more then the stats.</p>
<p>OS adoption will drive the browser stats. Given Firefox,Opera,Safari can run on Windows and IE can&#8217;t run on other Mac or Linux.</p>
<p>To really see, if IE is losing out becasue of other browsers compared against other OSes, we have to represent the browser share graph per every OS and analyze browser data for the Windows OS to see if a lot of them are firefox /opera. </p>
<p>Overall, very interesting post representing the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: stewall</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Of course, Vista shows up even for those of us who really don&#039;t want Vista on our machines. &lt;br /&gt;
AND BTW, F3 keeps crashing on my TX2000 too!!! My other (XP) machines are fine.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Of course, Vista shows up even for those of us who really don&#8217;t want Vista on our machines. <br />
AND BTW, F3 keeps crashing on my TX2000 too!!! My other (XP) machines are fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Balkind</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/jkontherun-brow/#comment-368743</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Balkind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am often one of the visitors using a Nokia, and I have to say the N95 browser is great.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, the number of Firefox was is huge - it&#039;s a shame V3 keeps crashing on my TX 2000 :(&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>I am often one of the visitors using a Nokia, and I have to say the N95 browser is great.</p>
<p>Also, the number of Firefox was is huge &#8211; it&#8217;s a shame V3 keeps crashing on my TX 2000 :(</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;The Win NT percentage - really, how is that possible?  I can see that there might be some servers still operating out there (that shouldn&#039;t be blog surfing), but can anyone still be using NT Workstation?  I feel for the employees of those companies.  That percentage must be wrong - maybe some of the Win 2000 users being misreported?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>The Win NT percentage &#8211; really, how is that possible?  I can see that there might be some servers still operating out there (that shouldn&#8217;t be blog surfing), but can anyone still be using NT Workstation?  I feel for the employees of those companies.  That percentage must be wrong &#8211; maybe some of the Win 2000 users being misreported?</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/jkontherun-brow/#comment-368745</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I suspect that a few of the Safari users are iPhone peeps for sure.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It seems to be lumping FF v.3 users into v.1 stats for some reason.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>I suspect that a few of the Safari users are iPhone peeps for sure.</p>
<p>It seems to be lumping FF v.3 users into v.1 stats for some reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricky B.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Very interesting... does your measurement setup fold FF 3 into the results for FF 1.x? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And hey, Linux has 3.5%... not bad! Low expectations, that&#039;s key. (What&#039;s the difference between Linux UNIX and Linux UNKNOWN?)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Very interesting&#8230; does your measurement setup fold FF 3 into the results for FF 1.x? </p>
<p>And hey, Linux has 3.5%&#8230; not bad! Low expectations, that&#8217;s key. (What&#8217;s the difference between Linux UNIX and Linux UNKNOWN?)</p>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I see FF 1.x at 44% but FF 3.x isn&#039;t even on the list.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Did you post the wrong pie chart?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>I see FF 1.x at 44% but FF 3.x isn&#8217;t even on the list.</p>
<p>Did you post the wrong pie chart?</p>
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		<title>By: Jasen</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I am reading from an iPod touch right now. Might that and the iPhone  account for the (surprisingly) large number of safari users?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I am reading from an iPod touch right now. Might that and the iPhone  account for the (surprisingly) large number of safari users?</p>
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