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	<title>Comments on: iTunes Plus — fool me twice, shame on me</title>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/itunes-plus-fool-me-twice-shame-on-me/#comment-413865</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So you’re saying that Apple didn’t benefit from the DRM’ed tunes...&quot;

Clearly they didn&#039;t if you are switching to Amazon. 

Your arguments aren&#039;t coherent.

Let&#039;s say you bought song X at some time in the past with itunes DRM infestation. Assuming you like song X and want to rid it of the DRM infestation, here are your options.

1) There are various hassle-filled ways to rid the song of DRM, most of them reduced quality, none increase it.

2) You could search for the song in Amazon and buy it for $0.79-whatever they are charging.

3) You could click on one button in itunes and pay $0.30.

I know which one I would choose. 

I can whine that DRM-free songs weren&#039;t available in itunes in 2006 and I wasted 30 cents not waiting 3 years to buy the song. But that is as immature as whining at Apple that I wasted money on a crappy Motorola phone because Apple didn&#039;t come out with something better till now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So you’re saying that Apple didn’t benefit from the DRM’ed tunes&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Clearly they didn&#8217;t if you are switching to Amazon. </p>
<p>Your arguments aren&#8217;t coherent.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say you bought song X at some time in the past with itunes DRM infestation. Assuming you like song X and want to rid it of the DRM infestation, here are your options.</p>
<p>1) There are various hassle-filled ways to rid the song of DRM, most of them reduced quality, none increase it.</p>
<p>2) You could search for the song in Amazon and buy it for $0.79-whatever they are charging.</p>
<p>3) You could click on one button in itunes and pay $0.30.</p>
<p>I know which one I would choose. </p>
<p>I can whine that DRM-free songs weren&#8217;t available in itunes in 2006 and I wasted 30 cents not waiting 3 years to buy the song. But that is as immature as whining at Apple that I wasted money on a crappy Motorola phone because Apple didn&#8217;t come out with something better till now.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/itunes-plus-fool-me-twice-shame-on-me/#comment-413864</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am actually using Doubletwist a lot this week but it does nothing with DRM-infested tunes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am actually using Doubletwist a lot this week but it does nothing with DRM-infested tunes.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Adams</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/itunes-plus-fool-me-twice-shame-on-me/#comment-413863</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guy Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/news/show/92739/doubletwist-uber-media-manager.html

Something for you maybe?]]></description>
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<p>Something for you maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: mr-crash</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/itunes-plus-fool-me-twice-shame-on-me/#comment-413862</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mr-crash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I totally approve of this practice! Broadening your musical horizons is always good.

There&#039;s plenty of good new music out there. Stuff like Martin Martini &amp; The Bone Palace Orchestra, Gotye or Cloud Cult are fantastic :)

I do think you&#039;ve often got to look a bit past the proliferation of indie-by-numbers or bland pop music to find what&#039;s really worth while, but there&#039;s some brilliant work out there whatever your tastes.

Myself, i&#039;ve purchased a few tracks from itunes, that weren&#039;t available DRM free. But I found doubletwist to do a nice job of removing the DRM. I still like to buy CD&#039;s where I can though.

Doubletwist is also ridiculously easy to use, a good way to synchronise media across a number of devices/platforms and it&#039;s free!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally approve of this practice! Broadening your musical horizons is always good.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s plenty of good new music out there. Stuff like Martin Martini &amp; The Bone Palace Orchestra, Gotye or Cloud Cult are fantastic :)</p>
<p>I do think you&#8217;ve often got to look a bit past the proliferation of indie-by-numbers or bland pop music to find what&#8217;s really worth while, but there&#8217;s some brilliant work out there whatever your tastes.</p>
<p>Myself, i&#8217;ve purchased a few tracks from itunes, that weren&#8217;t available DRM free. But I found doubletwist to do a nice job of removing the DRM. I still like to buy CD&#8217;s where I can though.</p>
<p>Doubletwist is also ridiculously easy to use, a good way to synchronise media across a number of devices/platforms and it&#8217;s free!</p>
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		<title>By: Neoxeekhrobe</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/itunes-plus-fool-me-twice-shame-on-me/#comment-413861</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neoxeekhrobe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DRM-infested tunes, Loved it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DRM-infested tunes, Loved it.</p>
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		<title>By: Luscious</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/itunes-plus-fool-me-twice-shame-on-me/#comment-413860</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luscious]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the price now, but I&#039;m not using Audition. I&#039;ve been using CEP for over 9 years, and bought it for a whole LOT less. It serves all my audio needs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the price now, but I&#8217;m not using Audition. I&#8217;ve been using CEP for over 9 years, and bought it for a whole LOT less. It serves all my audio needs.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/itunes-plus-fool-me-twice-shame-on-me/#comment-413859</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool Edit Pro is now Adobe Audition for $349.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool Edit Pro is now Adobe Audition for $349.</p>
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		<title>By: Luscious</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/itunes-plus-fool-me-twice-shame-on-me/#comment-413858</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luscious]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To James and others having headaches here, let me mention 3 words - Cool Edit Pro.

DRM for me has never been an issue, even with iTunes purchases. But I think anybody who kicks out $200+ to Apple to &quot;use freely&quot; what they ALREADY PURCHASED is, no offense, donating to the wrong charity.

Oh, and James, I&#039;ve got about the same number of songs burned on a DVD+RW that I play in the car and keep adding more music all the time with an SD card. I also keep the same copy on my pocket PC, all DRM free using WMA.

With a little knowledge, anyone can un-DRM an iTunes purchase. Invest in a little time and learning, and save yourself throwing out hundreds to Apple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To James and others having headaches here, let me mention 3 words &#8211; Cool Edit Pro.</p>
<p>DRM for me has never been an issue, even with iTunes purchases. But I think anybody who kicks out $200+ to Apple to &#8220;use freely&#8221; what they ALREADY PURCHASED is, no offense, donating to the wrong charity.</p>
<p>Oh, and James, I&#8217;ve got about the same number of songs burned on a DVD+RW that I play in the car and keep adding more music all the time with an SD card. I also keep the same copy on my pocket PC, all DRM free using WMA.</p>
<p>With a little knowledge, anyone can un-DRM an iTunes purchase. Invest in a little time and learning, and save yourself throwing out hundreds to Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: elbowz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/itunes-plus-fool-me-twice-shame-on-me/#comment-413857</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[elbowz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given the current economic crisis you could employ someone to burn and rip these for you at about half that... legal and a much better way of re-distributing capital...

Call it 60 CDRs worth of music - $50 for someone to burn them, the same for someone else to rip them back, that&#039;s two people&#039;s financial worries eased (albeit temporarily), you&#039;re $100 in pocket and the RIAA haven&#039;t benefited by an extra penny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the current economic crisis you could employ someone to burn and rip these for you at about half that&#8230; legal and a much better way of re-distributing capital&#8230;</p>
<p>Call it 60 CDRs worth of music &#8211; $50 for someone to burn them, the same for someone else to rip them back, that&#8217;s two people&#8217;s financial worries eased (albeit temporarily), you&#8217;re $100 in pocket and the RIAA haven&#8217;t benefited by an extra penny.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m also on my way out of the clutches of Apple and have paid around $70 to &quot;free&quot; my purchases.  I fell in love with Apple when the first iPod came out and have gone through so many of them that I can&#039;t count.  The failure of the battery in my latest iPod touch has forced me to get a larger MicroSD for my G1, which is working great as a replacement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also on my way out of the clutches of Apple and have paid around $70 to &#8220;free&#8221; my purchases.  I fell in love with Apple when the first iPod came out and have gone through so many of them that I can&#8217;t count.  The failure of the battery in my latest iPod touch has forced me to get a larger MicroSD for my G1, which is working great as a replacement.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AndyM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree with your posting. I&#039;m in the same situation (over $200 to upgrade, and for now I&#039;m not doing anything). On the bright side, about a year ago I started buying one-off MP3s from Amazon.com or the CD from Amazon. Haven&#039;t bought a single item from iTunes since then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with your posting. I&#8217;m in the same situation (over $200 to upgrade, and for now I&#8217;m not doing anything). On the bright side, about a year ago I started buying one-off MP3s from Amazon.com or the CD from Amazon. Haven&#8217;t bought a single item from iTunes since then.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/itunes-plus-fool-me-twice-shame-on-me/#comment-413854</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, do you also think the labels required Apple to initially force their customers who wanted to remove DRM to do so on their *entire* library at once?

Believe me, I&#039;ve got no love for record labels or DRM.  I just take issue with the idea that Apple is a poor oppressed victim of the recording industry.  They&#039;ve said &quot;screw you&quot; to their customers time and again, and people still keep coming back for more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, do you also think the labels required Apple to initially force their customers who wanted to remove DRM to do so on their *entire* library at once?</p>
<p>Believe me, I&#8217;ve got no love for record labels or DRM.  I just take issue with the idea that Apple is a poor oppressed victim of the recording industry.  They&#8217;ve said &#8220;screw you&#8221; to their customers time and again, and people still keep coming back for more.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Pressman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/itunes-plus-fool-me-twice-shame-on-me/#comment-413853</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Pressman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is rather irksome but it&#039;s not even the only outrageous annoyance. AFTER you pay, iTunes can wreck your library or fill it with duplicates. And it&#039;s not even letting me upgrade some albums that have been for sale at full price in Plus versions for weeks. I blogged about it some today here: http://gravitationalpull.net/wp/?p=726]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is rather irksome but it&#8217;s not even the only outrageous annoyance. AFTER you pay, iTunes can wreck your library or fill it with duplicates. And it&#8217;s not even letting me upgrade some albums that have been for sale at full price in Plus versions for weeks. I blogged about it some today here: <a href="http://gravitationalpull.net/wp/?p=726" rel="nofollow">http://gravitationalpull.net/wp/?p=726</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/itunes-plus-fool-me-twice-shame-on-me/#comment-413852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin C. Tofel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FWIW since it&#039;s related to Oliver&#039;s question above: &quot;Are there even any good songs getting released these days?&quot;

I actually hit Amazon&#039;s MP3 store daily. It&#039;s one of my first stops because they feature a different DRM-free MP3 album for cheap. Usually anywhere from $0.99 to $3.99. No matter what the genre, I preview the entire album. Sometimes I buy, sometimes I don&#039;t. I find that this gives me a good way to sample music outside my &quot;comfort zone&quot; and often provides an inexpensive way to add to my DRM-free collection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW since it&#8217;s related to Oliver&#8217;s question above: &#8220;Are there even any good songs getting released these days?&#8221;</p>
<p>I actually hit Amazon&#8217;s MP3 store daily. It&#8217;s one of my first stops because they feature a different DRM-free MP3 album for cheap. Usually anywhere from $0.99 to $3.99. No matter what the genre, I preview the entire album. Sometimes I buy, sometimes I don&#8217;t. I find that this gives me a good way to sample music outside my &#8220;comfort zone&#8221; and often provides an inexpensive way to add to my DRM-free collection.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/itunes-plus-fool-me-twice-shame-on-me/#comment-413851</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Mike: And you know that Apple gets all or the bulk of the upgrade fee?  If so, please point me to the evidence.

If I had to bet, I&#039;d say the upgrade fee is a requirement of the labels based on past behavior.  Apple offered higher-priced DRM-less files to the labels who wanted variable-priced tracks, and only EMI was willing. Instead, the others (and eventually EMI as well) went off and used this issue to create a competitor to iTunes, by offering a DRM-free track to a competitor at the same price it was offering the same track, but DRMed, to iTunes. I&#039;m only surprised that Apple didn&#039;t find the will (or grounds) to sue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike: And you know that Apple gets all or the bulk of the upgrade fee?  If so, please point me to the evidence.</p>
<p>If I had to bet, I&#8217;d say the upgrade fee is a requirement of the labels based on past behavior.  Apple offered higher-priced DRM-less files to the labels who wanted variable-priced tracks, and only EMI was willing. Instead, the others (and eventually EMI as well) went off and used this issue to create a competitor to iTunes, by offering a DRM-free track to a competitor at the same price it was offering the same track, but DRMed, to iTunes. I&#8217;m only surprised that Apple didn&#8217;t find the will (or grounds) to sue.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oliver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you&#039;re saying that Apple didn&#039;t benefit from the DRM&#039;ed tunes being locked to Apple hardware, and only the record labels wanted it?  Interesting.  Given Apple&#039;s clout, how come Amazon was able to release non-DRMed songs way before Apple?

I haven&#039;t bought a single DRM&#039;ed song.  Anywhere.  I have way too many CDs that I don&#039;t listen often enough to anyway, so my ripped collection is plenty.  Are there even any good songs getting released these days? ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re saying that Apple didn&#8217;t benefit from the DRM&#8217;ed tunes being locked to Apple hardware, and only the record labels wanted it?  Interesting.  Given Apple&#8217;s clout, how come Amazon was able to release non-DRMed songs way before Apple?</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t bought a single DRM&#8217;ed song.  Anywhere.  I have way too many CDs that I don&#8217;t listen often enough to anyway, so my ripped collection is plenty.  Are there even any good songs getting released these days? ;)</p>
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