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		<title>By: GVCustomer</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-565672</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GVCustomer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phone companies don&#039;t WANT to let you move your number to Google since they will lose billions of dollars in calling plans by allowing it. I don&#039;t really get the point though as you can use Google Voice to take over your voicemail from your previous carrier and then configure it so the other numbers ring before going to voicemail. It might be worth trying to port your number away from Google, then waiting the legal recycling time and see if you can configure Google with your old number.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phone companies don&#8217;t WANT to let you move your number to Google since they will lose billions of dollars in calling plans by allowing it. I don&#8217;t really get the point though as you can use Google Voice to take over your voicemail from your previous carrier and then configure it so the other numbers ring before going to voicemail. It might be worth trying to port your number away from Google, then waiting the legal recycling time and see if you can configure Google with your old number.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-421354</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dustin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 15:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Porting is very easy for the guy who asked. It&#039;s usually free. You also control your number after a new bill was passed back in 2004 by President Bush. As long as you pay your bill you are good to port to a new carrier. This website give a timeline for number ports with all the major carriers and prepaids&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://dustinjones.me/2010/05/28/timeline-for-porting-number-for-all-cell-phone-carriers/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Porting is very easy for the guy who asked. It&#8217;s usually free. You also control your number after a new bill was passed back in 2004 by President Bush. As long as you pay your bill you are good to port to a new carrier. This website give a timeline for number ports with all the major carriers and prepaids</p>
<p><a href="http://dustinjones.me/2010/05/28/timeline-for-porting-number-for-all-cell-phone-carriers/" rel="nofollow">http://dustinjones.me/2010/05/28/timeline-for-porting-number-for-all-cell-phone-carriers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Sisson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-421353</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Sisson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes - no problem.  We can port just about any number into our system, and we do it for free, unlike other carriers who charge up to $50.  Because both google and toktumi use level3, porting will be especially trivial because it not really a port, just changing which servers the number points to. If you have any questions email me at psisson [at] toktumi /dot/ com.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; no problem.  We can port just about any number into our system, and we do it for free, unlike other carriers who charge up to $50.  Because both google and toktumi use level3, porting will be especially trivial because it not really a port, just changing which servers the number points to. If you have any questions email me at psisson [at] toktumi /dot/ com.</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin Copeland</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-421352</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edwin Copeland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 03:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter,

I am trying to port my google voice number to Toktumi, is this possible?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>I am trying to port my google voice number to Toktumi, is this possible?</p>
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		<title>By: NiTRo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-421351</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NiTRo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve had some experience with phone numbers being used as account/billing numbers.  I&#039;ve managed PBXs for several years, ranging from 50 to 9,000 extensions per system.

Most of the trunking I&#039;ve done to the PSTN has been on T1 PRI circuits.  In many cases, when upgrading the trunks at a small site, I would want to port the main phone number for a given site (which is already established for several years in the phone book, 411 &amp; corporate promotional materials) away from a T1 circuit &amp; have it ported to a different carrier or forward to a newer number.  9 times out of 10, the site&#039;s main number was the BTN (Billing Telephone Number) for that circuit/trunk.  Meaning that number was used as a reference all throughout the carrier&#039;s billing system &amp; also in several instances in the actual config of the trunk in the carrier&#039;s CO switch.  

Just breaking that number out of a trunk and either porting it or turning it into a remote call forward would require the local carrier to rebuild the entire trunk, taking anywhere from 5 to 10 days to process the order &amp; also causing a few hours of no service while the trunk is being reconfigured.  The months that follow would result in billing issues because the old number is still stuck in their billing system &amp; is still posting a monthly charge alongside the new BTN that the carrier established for the trunk.

The two are tied together in many instances.  Cleanest way to port your number would be to port to Google Voice (whenever they offer it), let you old cell die as the previous carrier closes the account when the port is complete, then open a whole new account for your existing cell phone with the wireless carrier.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had some experience with phone numbers being used as account/billing numbers.  I&#8217;ve managed PBXs for several years, ranging from 50 to 9,000 extensions per system.</p>
<p>Most of the trunking I&#8217;ve done to the PSTN has been on T1 PRI circuits.  In many cases, when upgrading the trunks at a small site, I would want to port the main phone number for a given site (which is already established for several years in the phone book, 411 &amp; corporate promotional materials) away from a T1 circuit &amp; have it ported to a different carrier or forward to a newer number.  9 times out of 10, the site&#8217;s main number was the BTN (Billing Telephone Number) for that circuit/trunk.  Meaning that number was used as a reference all throughout the carrier&#8217;s billing system &amp; also in several instances in the actual config of the trunk in the carrier&#8217;s CO switch.  </p>
<p>Just breaking that number out of a trunk and either porting it or turning it into a remote call forward would require the local carrier to rebuild the entire trunk, taking anywhere from 5 to 10 days to process the order &amp; also causing a few hours of no service while the trunk is being reconfigured.  The months that follow would result in billing issues because the old number is still stuck in their billing system &amp; is still posting a monthly charge alongside the new BTN that the carrier established for the trunk.</p>
<p>The two are tied together in many instances.  Cleanest way to port your number would be to port to Google Voice (whenever they offer it), let you old cell die as the previous carrier closes the account when the port is complete, then open a whole new account for your existing cell phone with the wireless carrier.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-421350</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to work for Verizon and although I can&#039;t speak for the account side of things, I can tell you that on the network side, customers are not identified by their phone number, but rather their MSID... If you originated your service with Verizon (meaning you didn&#039;t port another number in or change your number for any reason), then your MSID is most likely the same as your phone number, but they don&#039;t have to be the same... something to think about]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work for Verizon and although I can&#8217;t speak for the account side of things, I can tell you that on the network side, customers are not identified by their phone number, but rather their MSID&#8230; If you originated your service with Verizon (meaning you didn&#8217;t port another number in or change your number for any reason), then your MSID is most likely the same as your phone number, but they don&#8217;t have to be the same&#8230; something to think about</p>
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		<title>By: Bill H</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-421349</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I too have ported numbers out and had new numbers issued to the same service.  

The carrier (in this case I think it was TMO?) was more than happy to do so, because they kept a customer where they usually loose one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have ported numbers out and had new numbers issued to the same service.  </p>
<p>The carrier (in this case I think it was TMO?) was more than happy to do so, because they kept a customer where they usually loose one.</p>
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		<title>By: Hady</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-421348</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw this earlier today, http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/09/02/google-voice-alternative-line2-is-now-live-on-the-app-store/ 
Signed up, so far a big thumbs up. I set up all the auto attendent features tonight so no calls to test on yet but as far as the iPhone calling/voice mail goes I&#039;m very impressed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this earlier today, <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/09/02/google-voice-alternative-line2-is-now-live-on-the-app-store/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/09/02/google-voice-alternative-line2-is-now-live-on-the-app-store/</a><br />
Signed up, so far a big thumbs up. I set up all the auto attendent features tonight so no calls to test on yet but as far as the iPhone calling/voice mail goes I&#8217;m very impressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-421347</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dylan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey what up man I need a invite so I can use this I need this so bad]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey what up man I need a invite so I can use this I need this so bad</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-421346</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris,
If you try this, let us know how it works out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
If you try this, let us know how it works out.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cooper</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-421345</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Cooper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I am correct, that should leave you with a new number, the old number ported to GV, and no new 2year contract.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I am correct, that should leave you with a new number, the old number ported to GV, and no new 2year contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cooper</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-421344</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Cooper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Getting back to the original problem of porting while still under contract, I was wondering if this would work: 1)Sign up for an additional number under family plan without getting new phone. 2)Ask AT&amp;T to transfer remaining contract to new number. 3)Port old number to google voice. Would that work?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting back to the original problem of porting while still under contract, I was wondering if this would work: 1)Sign up for an additional number under family plan without getting new phone. 2)Ask AT&amp;T to transfer remaining contract to new number. 3)Port old number to google voice. Would that work?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-421343</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Number portability doesn&#039;t require an account to close.  I&#039;ve ported numbers and the previous carrier just assigns a new number to the old device.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Number portability doesn&#8217;t require an account to close.  I&#8217;ve ported numbers and the previous carrier just assigns a new number to the old device.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Garvin</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-421342</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle Garvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3jam is similiar to Google Voice, how do they solve the problem of the account being closed when the phone number is ported away?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3jam is similiar to Google Voice, how do they solve the problem of the account being closed when the phone number is ported away?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-421341</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Several months ago I had my personal phone with Sprint, my wifes phone also with Sprint, and a business phone with MetroPCS. I wanted an iPhone for my personal phone, which required moving to ATT. But I HATED Metro PCS... So I wanted to keep my numbers the same but move the lines around. Therefore the trickery happens!

I was advised by Sprint that when I port my phone number to ATT, my Sprint line would automatically close (my account would remain open because my wife was still on it, but that line would cease along with its contract start date-expired), but since I was prequalified for 2 lines already, that I could open a new line with Sprint (back up to 2 accounts, my business and wife) and port the MetroPCS phone number to Sprint. Sprint was obviously better than Metro as far as quality was concerned, hence the reason for the wanted change.

Anyways, I battled with Sprint about this saying that I did not want to lock into a new contract with a new line as they indicated I would have to do. I told them &quot;my contract with my existing line is done, its up..... I could cancel now and not port a new one in at no penalty and your loss...&quot; After an hour of debate they finally gave in telling me that after my line is closed from ATT porting my number out, they would open a new line and use the existing contract date, that it was extremely rare they would do this, and its my lucky day. They even tried the &quot;what can we do to keep you as a customer&quot; pitch... I told them &quot;that&#039;s what I&#039;m trying to do- you&#039;re making it difficult...&quot;

Anyways, all in all, at least with Sprint you can fight to the bitter end to retain your contract status if and when Google allows porting in, and seemingly will have no differences on your account overall---I don&#039;t know about ATT or Verizon which is your case.

Additionally, if you only have 1 line on your account, at least I have done this back in 2004. (again with Sprint) I was not thrilled with the price of one of my bills. So I threatened to cancel my line. Rep said OK.. So I did it. Oops. I didn&#039;t really want to! lol  Anyways, I called back a day or 2 later and explained that somehow it got canceled, maybe a miss communication, and I need it back. They gladly reinstated my account and put the same contract start date back on the account. So, in case when you port out, you can say you didn&#039;t know it would close your entire account, maybe they will just bring it back online for you with a new number??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several months ago I had my personal phone with Sprint, my wifes phone also with Sprint, and a business phone with MetroPCS. I wanted an iPhone for my personal phone, which required moving to ATT. But I HATED Metro PCS&#8230; So I wanted to keep my numbers the same but move the lines around. Therefore the trickery happens!</p>
<p>I was advised by Sprint that when I port my phone number to ATT, my Sprint line would automatically close (my account would remain open because my wife was still on it, but that line would cease along with its contract start date-expired), but since I was prequalified for 2 lines already, that I could open a new line with Sprint (back up to 2 accounts, my business and wife) and port the MetroPCS phone number to Sprint. Sprint was obviously better than Metro as far as quality was concerned, hence the reason for the wanted change.</p>
<p>Anyways, I battled with Sprint about this saying that I did not want to lock into a new contract with a new line as they indicated I would have to do. I told them &#8220;my contract with my existing line is done, its up&#8230;.. I could cancel now and not port a new one in at no penalty and your loss&#8230;&#8221; After an hour of debate they finally gave in telling me that after my line is closed from ATT porting my number out, they would open a new line and use the existing contract date, that it was extremely rare they would do this, and its my lucky day. They even tried the &#8220;what can we do to keep you as a customer&#8221; pitch&#8230; I told them &#8220;that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m trying to do- you&#8217;re making it difficult&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyways, all in all, at least with Sprint you can fight to the bitter end to retain your contract status if and when Google allows porting in, and seemingly will have no differences on your account overall&#8212;I don&#8217;t know about ATT or Verizon which is your case.</p>
<p>Additionally, if you only have 1 line on your account, at least I have done this back in 2004. (again with Sprint) I was not thrilled with the price of one of my bills. So I threatened to cancel my line. Rep said OK.. So I did it. Oops. I didn&#8217;t really want to! lol  Anyways, I called back a day or 2 later and explained that somehow it got canceled, maybe a miss communication, and I need it back. They gladly reinstated my account and put the same contract start date back on the account. So, in case when you port out, you can say you didn&#8217;t know it would close your entire account, maybe they will just bring it back online for you with a new number??</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/google-voice-number-portability-has-a-unique-challenge/#comment-421340</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have already done this using Vitelity communications. I ported my number to them and setup a forward to my GV number. Vitelity is dirt cheap and once Google starts porting in numbers it will be a quick port (Vitelity uses Level3) and Vitelity says they will refund any remaining balance in the account.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have already done this using Vitelity communications. I ported my number to them and setup a forward to my GV number. Vitelity is dirt cheap and once Google starts porting in numbers it will be a quick port (Vitelity uses Level3) and Vitelity says they will refund any remaining balance in the account.</p>
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