Comments on: Google Nexus One Android Phone — What We Know

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By: BreakBlan

BreakBlan — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:37:21 +0000

read more carefully before you get emotional, was clearly knocking Tmo not Sprint. Tmo has a VASTLY smaller 3G network than the other 3 carriers.

By: BreakBlan

BreakBlan — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:35:29 +0000

smaller doesnt always cost more, in the smartbook vs smartphone the use the same parts except mobo, screen casing. 7″+ screens cost more to cut, larger mobo’s & casing cost more as well. there is no way R&D of smartphones would triple the price.

parts are NOT the reason smartphones cost more, clearly its other market forces at work.

By: Joshua

Joshua — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:45:40 +0000

I assume by reffering to Sprint as third place and“small” you couldn’t possibly be reffering to coverage, since its coverage and throughput are the best of any carrier. Or perhaps you use Verizon and AT&T commercials as your source of nformation?

By: Joshua

Joshua — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:43:36 +0000

I assume by reffering to Sprint as third place and “small” you couldn’t possibly be reffering to coverage, since its coverage and throughput are the best of any carrier. Or perhaps you use Verizon and AT&T commercials as your source of information?

By: Kevin

Kevin — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:35:49 +0000

are you guys just posting content off of engadget now?

By: Derek Kerton

Derek Kerton — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:26:56 +0000

Hold on for a short while. Maybe one of your carriers will pick it up on the subsidy model, if that suits you. Of course, it’s not clear that carriers will be enthusiastic about a phone with so much Google branding.

But come on! ALL CAPS for this? This is, by no means, the first handset that didn’t launch, subsidized, across the entire world all at once!!

Money talks. The US is a huge market, and often gets products first.

Australia is just not the top priority market, and you’ve surely noticed that with everything from concert tours to automobile models, papal visits, tamagotchis, and whatever! I can sympathize, having grown up in Canada. C’est la vie, things arrive later in smaller, more isolated markets.

By: Derek Kerton

Derek Kerton — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:17:52 +0000

Your guess is wrong. Subsidies cost carriers upfront capex to lure in the customer. They pay for a portion of most every smartphone. One “real” price we can determine for handsets is the wholesale price paid to the handset vendor. The other “real” price is the retail price for a handset, unlocked, NOT from the carrier store, like the price for a Nokia N97 in the USA.

Re your other smartbook issue: smaller costs more. Once you’ve made a smartbook, to then make an equally powerful device that fits in a pocket is an engineering marvel.

By: Derek Kerton

Derek Kerton — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:07:54 +0000

I’ve played with one of these phones. It definitely has GPS, and maybe something more (using WiFi like Skyhook?). I was downstairs in a wood constructed home, and it had the location nailed.

Fat chance of Google launching a phone that doesn’t take advantage of location!!

By: MW

MW — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:13:45 +0000

After all the hype, I was expecting something different and exciting. Yes it now seems like it will be a good phone and probably the best Android to date, but THERE IS NO GROUND SHAKING EVENT.

By: Steven Snell

Steven Snell — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:46:17 +0000

WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD?! We don’t have this mobile carrier in Australia. So, if you’re not in the US you can only get an unlocked phone?

By: TylerNift

TylerNift — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:41:58 +0000

are you sure $500 is the “real” price?

too everyone, why is it SnapDragon-powered smartbooks coming in 2010 are aiming at a $200-$300 price point? obviously no contract as well. plus, they will use better/more expensive components (screens, storage) than smartphones.

my guess is, smartphone contract price has always been the “real” price of the phone. the price just gets jacked up for unlocked phones to discourage people from passing up contracts.

By: Willie

Willie — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:51:50 +0000

I can see Google giving the Nexus to T mobile first because G1 was launched with them. They work together well.
As for the limitations of the unlocked phone that will go away as other carriers get G phones IMO.
This is just the beginning. I think they are still dog fooding but with the public being the dogs.

By: Stuart

Stuart — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:38:52 +0000

Just because the phone DOESN’T have AT&T 3G doesn’t mean that it is worthless. It has 3G for T-Mobile USA, WIND in Canada and 3G for Europe and Asia via 2100. So it might be moot for americans that it is unlocked but not moot for the rest of the world.

Also, over $500 for a phone is a hefty price unsubsidized. But that’s a REAL price and everyone who gets subsidized prices get “fake” prices. It’s in line with Nokia’s N900 also available on T-Mobile and buying unlocked means none of the carrier specific customizations are forced on you.

By: BlinkBlaze

BlinkBlaze — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:18:13 +0000

best Android phone? yep. better hardware than HD2? nope. where is the innovation & “disruption” this phone was suppose to cause? its just another phone you can buy unlocked/locked, but on a 4th place carrier with a much smaller network than 3rd place Sprint. is the fact you can buy it from Google the “innovation”?

im starting to think it isnt about the product, its about the company behind the product. is Android really that impressive without the Google name? what about Chrome? its just another browser. what about ChromeOS? its just another thin client that has been done before & currently being done by JolliCloud. perception seems to be far more important than reality. its ashame the smaller guys who make as good/better products get no attention because they are not Google.

Kevin said no minutes & no contracts, but is he so motivated to dump his Pre that he will flipflop? my guess is yes.

By: oliver

oliver — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:44:19 +0000

I am with you on this. They could have differentiated themselves by making a truly universal/global 3G phone, but the limitation to T-Mob US 3G is just making it very limiting.