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	<title>Comments on: Fuzzy Math &#8212; the Data Plan is Separate from the Subsidized Netbook</title>
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		<title>By: TateJ</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/fuzzy-math-the-data-plan-is-separate-from-the-subsidized-netbook/#comment-428246</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TateJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are signing up for a data just to get the netbook,  you have a good point.  The netbook is gonna cost you a few grand.  

If you need a data plan, why not go with a carrier that will give you a free or reduced cost netbook. 

The product is the data plan.  The netbook is an incentive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are signing up for a data just to get the netbook,  you have a good point.  The netbook is gonna cost you a few grand.  </p>
<p>If you need a data plan, why not go with a carrier that will give you a free or reduced cost netbook. </p>
<p>The product is the data plan.  The netbook is an incentive.</p>
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		<title>By: Virtuous</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/fuzzy-math-the-data-plan-is-separate-from-the-subsidized-netbook/#comment-428245</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Virtuous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree with the premise of this article. At the very least the cost of early termination fees should be factored in to the cost of subsidized netbooks. Especially in today&#039;s economy people are wary of adding expensive monthly contracts to their expenses. Since I don&#039;t make many phone calls I&#039;m considering ditching my AT&amp;T mobile phone voice and data plan and using an iPhone paired with a Verizon Mifi and Google Voice. I advise people to consider what they&#039;ve committed themselves to when they buy a subsidized mobile phone or netbook. Most people can&#039;t get by without a mobile phone, but can make do without a netbook.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the premise of this article. At the very least the cost of early termination fees should be factored in to the cost of subsidized netbooks. Especially in today&#8217;s economy people are wary of adding expensive monthly contracts to their expenses. Since I don&#8217;t make many phone calls I&#8217;m considering ditching my AT&amp;T mobile phone voice and data plan and using an iPhone paired with a Verizon Mifi and Google Voice. I advise people to consider what they&#8217;ve committed themselves to when they buy a subsidized mobile phone or netbook. Most people can&#8217;t get by without a mobile phone, but can make do without a netbook.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/fuzzy-math-the-data-plan-is-separate-from-the-subsidized-netbook/#comment-428244</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stuart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think some people confuse this with the cellphone subsidies and plans. Which is why I prefer unlocked cellphones so that you can put any sim in the phones that i have and it will work. I have multiple laptops with internal 3g modems and i just do the sim swap when i need to use it. I have even put a data sim in a phone and been able to use it also. (AT&amp;T just charges by the minute for calls but you can add texting plans to it if you like)

I understand the pain about the 5GB limit but since i don&#039;t have that I don&#039;t worry. I was glad to get a data plan before they were popular and get all-i-can-eat so I eat all I want with it and don&#039;t worry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some people confuse this with the cellphone subsidies and plans. Which is why I prefer unlocked cellphones so that you can put any sim in the phones that i have and it will work. I have multiple laptops with internal 3g modems and i just do the sim swap when i need to use it. I have even put a data sim in a phone and been able to use it also. (AT&amp;T just charges by the minute for calls but you can add texting plans to it if you like)</p>
<p>I understand the pain about the 5GB limit but since i don&#8217;t have that I don&#8217;t worry. I was glad to get a data plan before they were popular and get all-i-can-eat so I eat all I want with it and don&#8217;t worry.</p>
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		<title>By: blip</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/fuzzy-math-the-data-plan-is-separate-from-the-subsidized-netbook/#comment-428243</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for that. With our needs becoming more about data and less about phone calls, it&#039;s like someone complaining that you need a plan with your iphone. It&#039;s a service that people pay for, and while expensive, many enjoy having. Though, yes, 10gb a month would be more reasonable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that. With our needs becoming more about data and less about phone calls, it&#8217;s like someone complaining that you need a plan with your iphone. It&#8217;s a service that people pay for, and while expensive, many enjoy having. Though, yes, 10gb a month would be more reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: Luscious</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/fuzzy-math-the-data-plan-is-separate-from-the-subsidized-netbook/#comment-428242</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luscious]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or a brand-new notebook with 3G built-in. Those would also qualify, except instead of calling in to activate service, you would call in to register your new device on your existing plan.

I still say the 5GB cap sucks, especially with a MiFi, but buying separate plans for each device is at least no longer necessary with something like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or a brand-new notebook with 3G built-in. Those would also qualify, except instead of calling in to activate service, you would call in to register your new device on your existing plan.</p>
<p>I still say the 5GB cap sucks, especially with a MiFi, but buying separate plans for each device is at least no longer necessary with something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: GeoffreyM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/fuzzy-math-the-data-plan-is-separate-from-the-subsidized-netbook/#comment-428241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GeoffreyM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finally, someone calling it like it is. Those comments calling a netbook a $2000 device just work my nerves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, someone calling it like it is. Those comments calling a netbook a $2000 device just work my nerves.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/fuzzy-math-the-data-plan-is-separate-from-the-subsidized-netbook/#comment-428240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed, but then you can get a sweet USB modem like we&#039;ve both used and plug it into anything. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, but then you can get a sweet USB modem like we&#8217;ve both used and plug it into anything. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/fuzzy-math-the-data-plan-is-separate-from-the-subsidized-netbook/#comment-428239</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin C. Tofel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All good points as the data plans (these days) tack on $1,440 or more over the two year commitment. 

&quot;What most fuzzy mathematicians fail to note is that carriers will let you move the data plan to any other device, even if you bought a netbook from them. You can move the plan to a “full” notebook down the road if you decide the netbook is too restrictive.&quot;

Very true, but worth noting so that people don&#039;t misunderstand: while you *can* move the data plan to a new device, but you&#039;re not likely to get said new device at any sort of a subsidized discount. You got the subsidy on the first device in the contract, so don&#039;t forget this very important point as you&#039;ll likely pay full price for the new device.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All good points as the data plans (these days) tack on $1,440 or more over the two year commitment. </p>
<p>&#8220;What most fuzzy mathematicians fail to note is that carriers will let you move the data plan to any other device, even if you bought a netbook from them. You can move the plan to a “full” notebook down the road if you decide the netbook is too restrictive.&#8221;</p>
<p>Very true, but worth noting so that people don&#8217;t misunderstand: while you *can* move the data plan to a new device, but you&#8217;re not likely to get said new device at any sort of a subsidized discount. You got the subsidy on the first device in the contract, so don&#8217;t forget this very important point as you&#8217;ll likely pay full price for the new device.</p>
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		<title>By: TateJ</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/fuzzy-math-the-data-plan-is-separate-from-the-subsidized-netbook/#comment-428238</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TateJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you James.    I agree 100%]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you James.    I agree 100%</p>
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