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	<title>Comments on: Forbes Needs to Reboot Their Netbook Expectations</title>
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		<title>By: GadgetMerc</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/forbes-needs-to-reboot-their-netbook-expectations/#comment-425415</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gerere, do you have a netbook?  I&#039;m curious because I&#039;m wondering if your judgment is coming from using one or comparing them with other machines on paper.
 
I know of several people (non geeks) that use a netbook (mainly Asus EEEs) as their primary PC.  There are many more people that use them as a secondary PC, but a few only use them solely.  I use my MSI Wind as my primary PC and I get excited (i am a geek) when I see someone happily using one.  I get mostly positive comments all the time from netbook users.  Most of the complainers that I have talked to are either people that will download any attachment they receive or power users that should know better. 
 
My only complaint is I wish my Wind had a slightly larger display.  The more I look at the netbooks in stores, the more I&#039;m starting to think a 10 inch display with higher resolution would be enough for me.
 
As Kevin and James reiterate all the time, &quot;Everyones needs are different.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerere, do you have a netbook?  I&#8217;m curious because I&#8217;m wondering if your judgment is coming from using one or comparing them with other machines on paper.</p>
<p>I know of several people (non geeks) that use a netbook (mainly Asus EEEs) as their primary PC.  There are many more people that use them as a secondary PC, but a few only use them solely.  I use my MSI Wind as my primary PC and I get excited (i am a geek) when I see someone happily using one.  I get mostly positive comments all the time from netbook users.  Most of the complainers that I have talked to are either people that will download any attachment they receive or power users that should know better. </p>
<p>My only complaint is I wish my Wind had a slightly larger display.  The more I look at the netbooks in stores, the more I&#8217;m starting to think a 10 inch display with higher resolution would be enough for me.</p>
<p>As Kevin and James reiterate all the time, &#8220;Everyones needs are different.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: gerere</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[people who bought atom based netbook are typical no brainer unless they simply want a pc to do tasks such as e-mailing, re-emails, browsing online and use a few plain simple applications. Atom is exactly 486 cpu re-engineered which equivalence to pentium 2 capability  or lower level power, Nothing more. Why would someone spend a few hundreds bucks less to encourage Intel creates more electronic junks? FYI ppl, most netbook owner never exactly a use thier netbook that much, or pull it aside fill dust in less than a yr especially when they discover  it&#039;s a pain in the ass when using it on Java&#039;s application online and Flash media.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people who bought atom based netbook are typical no brainer unless they simply want a pc to do tasks such as e-mailing, re-emails, browsing online and use a few plain simple applications. Atom is exactly 486 cpu re-engineered which equivalence to pentium 2 capability  or lower level power, Nothing more. Why would someone spend a few hundreds bucks less to encourage Intel creates more electronic junks? FYI ppl, most netbook owner never exactly a use thier netbook that much, or pull it aside fill dust in less than a yr especially when they discover  it&#8217;s a pain in the ass when using it on Java&#8217;s application online and Flash media.</p>
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		<title>By: turn.self.off</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 06:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[flash actually can be hardware accelerated on linux, but you need working 3D drivers, and disable eyecandy like clutter, as flash wants sole control over your GPU while its doing its thing...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>flash actually can be hardware accelerated on linux, but you need working 3D drivers, and disable eyecandy like clutter, as flash wants sole control over your GPU while its doing its thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bluespapa</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m guessing Kevin was reading Forbes with his Palm Pre that now has a dedicated Forbes reader.  Some good journalism in there; this one not.  

I think Scott above got the metaphor a bit better, Kevin, comparing the Honda with the Ferrari, rather than vice versa.  

The funniest part is that most of these business journals are all pro-market place, and Gomes is complaining that the market is responding to demand.  Boo-hoo.  

I don&#039;t think his journalism is bad, as he&#039;s probably accurate in everything he&#039;s reporting.  He&#039;s just a lousy consumer who didn&#039;t bother to do his research before he dropped a few C-notes.  Um,  You get what you pay for.  No free lunch.  Caveat emptor.  I&#039;m guessing he can give his netbook to some nephew and drop a few more dollars on what he should have gotten himself in the first place without worrying about making his house payment or whether the family will get groceries.  Sheesh!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m guessing Kevin was reading Forbes with his Palm Pre that now has a dedicated Forbes reader.  Some good journalism in there; this one not.  </p>
<p>I think Scott above got the metaphor a bit better, Kevin, comparing the Honda with the Ferrari, rather than vice versa.  </p>
<p>The funniest part is that most of these business journals are all pro-market place, and Gomes is complaining that the market is responding to demand.  Boo-hoo.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think his journalism is bad, as he&#8217;s probably accurate in everything he&#8217;s reporting.  He&#8217;s just a lousy consumer who didn&#8217;t bother to do his research before he dropped a few C-notes.  Um,  You get what you pay for.  No free lunch.  Caveat emptor.  I&#8217;m guessing he can give his netbook to some nephew and drop a few more dollars on what he should have gotten himself in the first place without worrying about making his house payment or whether the family will get groceries.  Sheesh!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/forbes-needs-to-reboot-their-netbook-expectations/#comment-425411</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Lee: the true villain in this story is the bad market research done writing this article.

I suppose you fault Honda for not making their civic as powerful as a Ferrari. &quot;oh sure it&#039;s cheaper and it can handle your basic transportation needs but it&#039;s not as powerful as this sports car so it&#039;s useless...&quot;

Do you scratch your head at how many Hondas sell each year (just like netbooks) too?

Don&#039;t waste everyone&#039;s time talking about stuff you obviously don&#039;t understand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Lee: the true villain in this story is the bad market research done writing this article.</p>
<p>I suppose you fault Honda for not making their civic as powerful as a Ferrari. &#8220;oh sure it&#8217;s cheaper and it can handle your basic transportation needs but it&#8217;s not as powerful as this sports car so it&#8217;s useless&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you scratch your head at how many Hondas sell each year (just like netbooks) too?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t waste everyone&#8217;s time talking about stuff you obviously don&#8217;t understand.</p>
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		<title>By: DGF</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DGF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps becasue the ten-inch netbook is a better match for their requirements?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps becasue the ten-inch netbook is a better match for their requirements?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/forbes-needs-to-reboot-their-netbook-expectations/#comment-425409</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;it&#039;s not the size that matters; it&#039;s how you use it.&quot; ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it&#8217;s not the size that matters; it&#8217;s how you use it.&#8221; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: GoodThings2Life</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GoodThings2Life]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I admit I&#039;m not reading any of the comments on this one, so if I repeat what others say, consider it an agreement/confirmation/validation/whatever, lol.

Anyway, I agree wholeheartedly with the post! Even though I don&#039;t like netbooks and would never own one personally, I base my recommendations to people on what they want to accomplish and what their usage habits are, not on what *I* would want.

I&#039;m a power user, I want my machine to be on par with me, and if possible I want it to be better than me... you know, on part with God, if possible! Blaspheming aside, not everyone needs their computer to be that. Some just want to sit in a coffee shop or on a plane or on the couch or whatever and watch an occasional video and surf the net and other lightweight tasks.

But then again, this whole article validates a point I&#039;ve made about them for the past two years... while I&#039;ve been wrong about their sales, I&#039;ve been right about how they&#039;re used... light weight productivity and heavy on entertainment values.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit I&#8217;m not reading any of the comments on this one, so if I repeat what others say, consider it an agreement/confirmation/validation/whatever, lol.</p>
<p>Anyway, I agree wholeheartedly with the post! Even though I don&#8217;t like netbooks and would never own one personally, I base my recommendations to people on what they want to accomplish and what their usage habits are, not on what *I* would want.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a power user, I want my machine to be on par with me, and if possible I want it to be better than me&#8230; you know, on part with God, if possible! Blaspheming aside, not everyone needs their computer to be that. Some just want to sit in a coffee shop or on a plane or on the couch or whatever and watch an occasional video and surf the net and other lightweight tasks.</p>
<p>But then again, this whole article validates a point I&#8217;ve made about them for the past two years&#8230; while I&#8217;ve been wrong about their sales, I&#8217;ve been right about how they&#8217;re used&#8230; light weight productivity and heavy on entertainment values.</p>
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		<title>By: Luscious</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/forbes-needs-to-reboot-their-netbook-expectations/#comment-425407</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luscious]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a 2133 user now for about a year, I am quite happy with the performance the netbook offers - with Windows XP. But it is unfair criticizing netbooks just because they are running Vista, and then expecting them to run a darn flight simulator.

Does Mr. Gomes expect to take his Shelby GT500 out to the racetrack and try to break records running on corn oil? I don&#039;t think so. Although, he may be that stupid.

I actually wrote a column on my blog a few weeks ago highlighting 10 reasons where desktops still beat notebooks. Some may argue that the tower is dead but the truth is, when you DON&#039;T need to be mobile, a desktop simply beats a notebook in many areas. Netbooks pair so well with desktops, especially when you have WHS set up for remote access. You can work remotely on your home desktop using your netbook while mobile, stream all your files and access your data anywhere, easily. When you factor in the price, size, weight, battery life and portability of netbooks it makes a compelling argument indeed.

That aside, I found &quot;screen resolution&quot; to be the biggest factor limiting my productivity with netbooks, not the OS, or the CPU nor GPU. If I need to run a flight simulator, I fire up my Toshiba Qosmio X305-Q708, not my HP 2133 mininote. But when I need to use Cool Edit Pro to do D/A A/D conversions, work on an office document, or fire up WME for a short encoding job, I can choose to go with either netbook or the beefier notebook. Now this would not be the case had I not gone with the higher res screen on the netbook, or installed Vista in place of XP.

As for Forbes, I&#039;m somewhat amazed they would publish such a half-baked article and actually pay this guy for his work. I guess when Forbes puts their name on something, it must be pretty good - even if it is still garbage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a 2133 user now for about a year, I am quite happy with the performance the netbook offers &#8211; with Windows XP. But it is unfair criticizing netbooks just because they are running Vista, and then expecting them to run a darn flight simulator.</p>
<p>Does Mr. Gomes expect to take his Shelby GT500 out to the racetrack and try to break records running on corn oil? I don&#8217;t think so. Although, he may be that stupid.</p>
<p>I actually wrote a column on my blog a few weeks ago highlighting 10 reasons where desktops still beat notebooks. Some may argue that the tower is dead but the truth is, when you DON&#8217;T need to be mobile, a desktop simply beats a notebook in many areas. Netbooks pair so well with desktops, especially when you have WHS set up for remote access. You can work remotely on your home desktop using your netbook while mobile, stream all your files and access your data anywhere, easily. When you factor in the price, size, weight, battery life and portability of netbooks it makes a compelling argument indeed.</p>
<p>That aside, I found &#8220;screen resolution&#8221; to be the biggest factor limiting my productivity with netbooks, not the OS, or the CPU nor GPU. If I need to run a flight simulator, I fire up my Toshiba Qosmio X305-Q708, not my HP 2133 mininote. But when I need to use Cool Edit Pro to do D/A A/D conversions, work on an office document, or fire up WME for a short encoding job, I can choose to go with either netbook or the beefier notebook. Now this would not be the case had I not gone with the higher res screen on the netbook, or installed Vista in place of XP.</p>
<p>As for Forbes, I&#8217;m somewhat amazed they would publish such a half-baked article and actually pay this guy for his work. I guess when Forbes puts their name on something, it must be pretty good &#8211; even if it is still garbage.</p>
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		<title>By: seamonkey420</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i saw what you did there mr griffin :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i saw what you did there mr griffin :P</p>
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		<title>By: gorkon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gorkon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not on Linux.  Maybe so on Windows and Mac but Adobe has not hardwae acellerated flash on Linux.  That means Linux has more overhead with Flash than Windows does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not on Linux.  Maybe so on Windows and Mac but Adobe has not hardwae acellerated flash on Linux.  That means Linux has more overhead with Flash than Windows does.</p>
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		<title>By: EwanG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EwanG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the CPU isn&#039;t having to fight for resource with a dependent GPU (as is the case with the GMA series), it&#039;s likely the CPU will be better able to handle Flash and other tasks as well. As has been pointed out elsewhere, it wasn&#039;t that long ago that a 1.6 GhZ chip like the Atom would have been considered top of the line - and back then there was plenty of Flash going on as well :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the CPU isn&#8217;t having to fight for resource with a dependent GPU (as is the case with the GMA series), it&#8217;s likely the CPU will be better able to handle Flash and other tasks as well. As has been pointed out elsewhere, it wasn&#8217;t that long ago that a 1.6 GhZ chip like the Atom would have been considered top of the line &#8211; and back then there was plenty of Flash going on as well :-)</p>
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		<title>By: dtizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dtizzle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not sure that the above is correct re: Flash processes. I am pretty sure that they are cpu dependent. An ION chipset may take the 1080p graphics rendering load off the CPU, but it won&#039;t reduce CPU usage for Flash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure that the above is correct re: Flash processes. I am pretty sure that they are cpu dependent. An ION chipset may take the 1080p graphics rendering load off the CPU, but it won&#8217;t reduce CPU usage for Flash.</p>
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		<title>By: EwanG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EwanG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think a couple folks here have alluded to the real issue, but just to make it clear. The problems most netbooks have with running games or more intensive computing tasks usually have nothing to do with the CPU. They have to do with the fact that the video &quot;card&quot; in almost all netbooks is severely underpowered - which was a design trade off made early on to support the longer lasting power requirements of the segment.

I think as you see the Ion based netbooks start to be released, you will see a lot more of the &quot;bottom&quot; falling out of the notebook market. Why? Because as someone else pointed out above, most notebooks aren&#039;t as capable as a desktop either. If you NEED portable, the average notebook gives you very little more than the average netbook.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a couple folks here have alluded to the real issue, but just to make it clear. The problems most netbooks have with running games or more intensive computing tasks usually have nothing to do with the CPU. They have to do with the fact that the video &#8220;card&#8221; in almost all netbooks is severely underpowered &#8211; which was a design trade off made early on to support the longer lasting power requirements of the segment.</p>
<p>I think as you see the Ion based netbooks start to be released, you will see a lot more of the &#8220;bottom&#8221; falling out of the notebook market. Why? Because as someone else pointed out above, most notebooks aren&#8217;t as capable as a desktop either. If you NEED portable, the average notebook gives you very little more than the average netbook.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stupid people shouldn&#039;t be journalists, that simple.

Although I have to say that even the argument that a desktop is necessary is a lie.  I used to believe that I would always need a desktop for video editing due to the large amount of rendering/processing needed.  I now do all editing on a HP laptop without a problem.  My sister in law does CAD for architecture on a laptop as well.  Desktops will go the way of the betamax in a few years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid people shouldn&#8217;t be journalists, that simple.</p>
<p>Although I have to say that even the argument that a desktop is necessary is a lie.  I used to believe that I would always need a desktop for video editing due to the large amount of rendering/processing needed.  I now do all editing on a HP laptop without a problem.  My sister in law does CAD for architecture on a laptop as well.  Desktops will go the way of the betamax in a few years.</p>
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		<title>By: dtizzle</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hahaahah - you said poppycock. that kind of language will you get you banned around here. although - with netbook naming schemes like wind, seashell and doofus, maybe poppycock is a good name for a netbook?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaahah &#8211; you said poppycock. that kind of language will you get you banned around here. although &#8211; with netbook naming schemes like wind, seashell and doofus, maybe poppycock is a good name for a netbook?</p>
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