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	<title>Comments on: DualCor cPC-connectivity information now available</title>
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		<title>By: jk</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 06:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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        The cPC will ship with no integrated radios. They will put a CF WiFi card in the box for buyers to have WiFi.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        The cPC will ship with no integrated radios. They will put a CF WiFi card in the box for buyers to have WiFi.</p>
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		<title>By: Raphael Salgado</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/dualcor_cpcconn/#comment-43861</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raphael Salgado]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 01:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James, what&#039;s the deal with the UMPC Comparison page on DualCor&#039;s site?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dualcor.com/umpc.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dualcor.com/umpc.php&lt;/a&gt;

Now they&#039;re saying it&#039;s going to have 3G, Bluetooth, and Wi-Fi?  Please let me know, I&#039;ve preordered the UX180P and now have second thoughts if I can get an extra 10GB and 512MB, not to mention PPC capability with the DualCor over the Sony UX.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, what&#8217;s the deal with the UMPC Comparison page on DualCor&#8217;s site?  <a href="http://www.dualcor.com/umpc.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.dualcor.com/umpc.php</a></p>
<p>Now they&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s going to have 3G, Bluetooth, and Wi-Fi?  Please let me know, I&#8217;ve preordered the UX180P and now have second thoughts if I can get an extra 10GB and 512MB, not to mention PPC capability with the DualCor over the Sony UX.</p>
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		<title>By: Portable Pundit</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/dualcor_cpcconn/#comment-43862</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 20:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s interesting that this is just coming to light now.

What was the plan here? Either the device was designed with integrated WiFi and Bluetooth from the beginning, or the company has been perpetrating fraudulent claims since they revealed the device at CES back in January. It&#039;s a lot of work to actually add or remove these networking components from the design. Personally, I think that they&#039;ve been dishonest on these counts.

As for WWAN support, they&#039;ve never claimed that they were integrating this, but have said that they were planning on pursuing deals with carriers before integrating a WWAN module. Granted, the way they presented these statements implied that they had room inside the case to actually add a module of this sort (along with an accompanying antenna), which seems unlikely at this point. In light of the fact that dualCor&#039;s idea of &quot;adding a module&quot; was actually adding a PCMCIA card, I guess we should consider them dishonest on this point as well.

We&#039;ve been sold some snake oil here, and it&#039;s pointless to argue about whether the backpack full of adapter you&#039;ll need to make it work are the right mix of things to carry around. Sony&#039;s upcoming UX model is looking like a better choice at this point. I&#039;d like to see DualCor succeed with the cPC, but then again, I&#039;m expecting them to go back and put the stuff they promised initially into the package before I&#039;ll buy one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that this is just coming to light now.</p>
<p>What was the plan here? Either the device was designed with integrated WiFi and Bluetooth from the beginning, or the company has been perpetrating fraudulent claims since they revealed the device at CES back in January. It&#8217;s a lot of work to actually add or remove these networking components from the design. Personally, I think that they&#8217;ve been dishonest on these counts.</p>
<p>As for WWAN support, they&#8217;ve never claimed that they were integrating this, but have said that they were planning on pursuing deals with carriers before integrating a WWAN module. Granted, the way they presented these statements implied that they had room inside the case to actually add a module of this sort (along with an accompanying antenna), which seems unlikely at this point. In light of the fact that dualCor&#8217;s idea of &#8220;adding a module&#8221; was actually adding a PCMCIA card, I guess we should consider them dishonest on this point as well.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been sold some snake oil here, and it&#8217;s pointless to argue about whether the backpack full of adapter you&#8217;ll need to make it work are the right mix of things to carry around. Sony&#8217;s upcoming UX model is looking like a better choice at this point. I&#8217;d like to see DualCor succeed with the cPC, but then again, I&#8217;m expecting them to go back and put the stuff they promised initially into the package before I&#8217;ll buy one.</p>
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		<title>By: jk</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/dualcor_cpcconn/#comment-43863</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 23:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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        Sumocat, having to provide third party radios means you will have to make sure that the particular device comes with drivers for both WinXP and WM5 which I believe will be difficult.  You will not be happy if you plug in a radio and it will only work on one of the OSes and not both, and a lot of OEMs only provide drivers for WinXP.  This would not be a problem if DualCor provided an integrated solution as they would also provide drivers for both OSes.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        Sumocat, having to provide third party radios means you will have to make sure that the particular device comes with drivers for both WinXP and WM5 which I believe will be difficult.  You will not be happy if you plug in a radio and it will only work on one of the OSes and not both, and a lot of OEMs only provide drivers for WinXP.  This would not be a problem if DualCor provided an integrated solution as they would also provide drivers for both OSes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ansin Ozturkmen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/dualcor_cpcconn/#comment-43864</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 14:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I posted this on umpcsite.com, let me post here too.

...JK and Rob got disappointed of it , but it is not very shocking for me : It is hard to squeze two hardware systems in such a small box ; both C7-m processor and Xscale etc. and i believe cPC&#039;s charm is in being so small and including both Windows XP and Windows CE in different hardware platforms in the same small box. If you want to have GSM or EVDO on a pocket-pc , there are already lots of options for that.

And i think like Mark Sumimoto too, it frees you and give possibilities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted this on umpcsite.com, let me post here too.</p>
<p>&#8230;JK and Rob got disappointed of it , but it is not very shocking for me : It is hard to squeze two hardware systems in such a small box ; both C7-m processor and Xscale etc. and i believe cPC&#8217;s charm is in being so small and including both Windows XP and Windows CE in different hardware platforms in the same small box. If you want to have GSM or EVDO on a pocket-pc , there are already lots of options for that.</p>
<p>And i think like Mark Sumimoto too, it frees you and give possibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/dualcor_cpcconn/#comment-43865</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 03:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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        I was just giving it some more thought - and I think I know where James is coming from. Being the forgetful person I am, if I don&#039;t have bits integrated, I&#039;m bound to have a day when I forget to bring the necessary dongles. I remember having an older laptop without wifi, so I bought a wifi pcmcia card for it. Because there is a bit sticking out, you have to take it off before you put it in a bag, lest you run the risk of having it snap off in transit. I don&#039;t think I can go back to that. What would be really cool is if you can make the cPC to order, ie. you can choose what wireless options you want included prior to shipping. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        I was just giving it some more thought &#8211; and I think I know where James is coming from. Being the forgetful person I am, if I don&#8217;t have bits integrated, I&#8217;m bound to have a day when I forget to bring the necessary dongles. I remember having an older laptop without wifi, so I bought a wifi pcmcia card for it. Because there is a bit sticking out, you have to take it off before you put it in a bag, lest you run the risk of having it snap off in transit. I don&#8217;t think I can go back to that. What would be really cool is if you can make the cPC to order, ie. you can choose what wireless options you want included prior to shipping. </p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sumimoto (Sumocat)</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/dualcor_cpcconn/#comment-43866</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Sumimoto (Sumocat)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 12:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James, if I have a CF card providing phone and a USB dongle providing BT and wifi, then what else do I need? This setup seems to hit the points in your example just fine. No, it is not ideal, but it is a no-swap, grab-and-go solution. Yes, phone is a low-speed Internet connection and EVDO would be preferred, but EVDO options in general are limited right now and I don&#039;t hear a lot of good things about Verizon. :)

That said, I think we all need to keep this in perspective: one card in a slot and one dongle sticking out (which could even be repositioned using an articulated adapter) adds phone, wifi, and BT connectivity to an energy-efficient, 30GB Windows Mobile Pocket PC that can switch instantly to Windows XP Tablet PC Edition with Origami UI. That setup literally puts a smartphone and UMPC together in one pocket-sized device that can connect to your BT accessories and a wifi hotspot without swapping any cards. I can tolerate one dongle to get that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, if I have a CF card providing phone and a USB dongle providing BT and wifi, then what else do I need? This setup seems to hit the points in your example just fine. No, it is not ideal, but it is a no-swap, grab-and-go solution. Yes, phone is a low-speed Internet connection and EVDO would be preferred, but EVDO options in general are limited right now and I don&#8217;t hear a lot of good things about Verizon. :)</p>
<p>That said, I think we all need to keep this in perspective: one card in a slot and one dongle sticking out (which could even be repositioned using an articulated adapter) adds phone, wifi, and BT connectivity to an energy-efficient, 30GB Windows Mobile Pocket PC that can switch instantly to Windows XP Tablet PC Edition with Origami UI. That setup literally puts a smartphone and UMPC together in one pocket-sized device that can connect to your BT accessories and a wifi hotspot without swapping any cards. I can tolerate one dongle to get that.</p>
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		<title>By: jk</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/dualcor_cpcconn/#comment-43867</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 08:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, you are much more likely to find yourself needing to use two CF devices at the same time and in this case you can&#039;t.  You would then have things sticking out of the cPC on several sides and would likely have to remove them for transport as they usually stick out too far to carry them that way in a bag.  I do appreciate the ability to be modular, it&#039;s one of the foundations to the way I work while mobile but in this day and age I do consider WiFi and maybe even BT to be a requirment and as such for me they need to be integrated.

On my Sony U71 I have integrated WiFi but no BT so I have to use a BT CF card when I am using my keyboard and mouse.  If WiFi is not available then I tether the U to my Treo via USB and I can tell you it becomes a bit unwieldy pretty quickly.  Integrated BT along with the WiFi would make this much easier, and it would be a nightmare if I also had to provide WiFi with an external solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, you are much more likely to find yourself needing to use two CF devices at the same time and in this case you can&#8217;t.  You would then have things sticking out of the cPC on several sides and would likely have to remove them for transport as they usually stick out too far to carry them that way in a bag.  I do appreciate the ability to be modular, it&#8217;s one of the foundations to the way I work while mobile but in this day and age I do consider WiFi and maybe even BT to be a requirment and as such for me they need to be integrated.</p>
<p>On my Sony U71 I have integrated WiFi but no BT so I have to use a BT CF card when I am using my keyboard and mouse.  If WiFi is not available then I tether the U to my Treo via USB and I can tell you it becomes a bit unwieldy pretty quickly.  Integrated BT along with the WiFi would make this much easier, and it would be a nightmare if I also had to provide WiFi with an external solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sumimoto (Sumocat)</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/dualcor_cpcconn/#comment-43868</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 07:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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        &quot;...carrying around multiple CF and/or USB cards minimizes any UMPC/handtop device&#039;s ability to be mobile.&quot; --Yes, but that&#039;s not necessarily the case here. You can get by with one CF card, which sits in the device, and one USB dongle, which can stay plugged in. You don&#039;t need to swap anything. It is a grab-and-go solution.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        &#8220;&#8230;carrying around multiple CF and/or USB cards minimizes any UMPC/handtop device&#8217;s ability to be mobile.&#8221; &#8211;Yes, but that&#8217;s not necessarily the case here. You can get by with one CF card, which sits in the device, and one USB dongle, which can stay plugged in. You don&#8217;t need to swap anything. It is a grab-and-go solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 03:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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        Hearing about the lack of connectivity options bums me out a bit - it certainly puts a dent on their &quot;UMPC vs cPC&quot; comparison, considering the UMPCs ship with wifi. But hey, if that brings the price of the cPC down enough, I might still consider it, considering wifi is really the only wireless connectivity option that I would miss.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        Hearing about the lack of connectivity options bums me out a bit &#8211; it certainly puts a dent on their &#8220;UMPC vs cPC&#8221; comparison, considering the UMPCs ship with wifi. But hey, if that brings the price of the cPC down enough, I might still consider it, considering wifi is really the only wireless connectivity option that I would miss.</p>
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