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	<title>Comments on: Do you really want the VIA Nano in an HP Mini? I don&#8217;t think so</title>
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		<title>By: easybutton</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-you-really-w/#comment-367626</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I would love to the the Nano in the HP. Then maybe I&#039;ll buy one since it won&#039;t be underpowered. *cough*atom*cough*&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I would love to the the Nano in the HP. Then maybe I&#8217;ll buy one since it won&#8217;t be underpowered. *cough*atom*cough*</p>
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		<title>By: surf2me</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-you-really-w/#comment-367607</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Nano does hurry up to go into idle state, Atom uses constant power consumption: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=597&amp;type=expert&amp;pid=8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=597&amp;type=expert&amp;pid=8&lt;/a&gt; see the graphics below.&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t think VIA&#039;s Nano does use much more power than Atom. A benchmark of an ULV version of the Nano would be great, to see if it&#039;s worth it.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nano does hurry up to go into idle state, Atom uses constant power consumption: <a href="http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=597&#038;type=expert&#038;pid=8" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=597&#038;type=expert&#038;pid=8</a> see the graphics below.<br />
I don&#8217;t think VIA&#8217;s Nano does use much more power than Atom. A benchmark of an ULV version of the Nano would be great, to see if it&#8217;s worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Luscious</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-you-really-w/#comment-367608</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;The deciding point for me in favor of the Nano versus the Atom is the poor chipset Intel uses with the Atom. Via has also recently upgraded the drivers for the 2133, I would presume further refining from Via will make the Nano a suitable upgrade.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>The deciding point for me in favor of the Nano versus the Atom is the poor chipset Intel uses with the Atom. Via has also recently upgraded the drivers for the 2133, I would presume further refining from Via will make the Nano a suitable upgrade.</p>
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		<title>By: bluemonq</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-you-really-w/#comment-367609</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;...on the other hand, the Nano is supposed to be pin compatible with the C7. Setting aside whether that would lead to a faster adoption time by companies currently using the C7 - would the more adventurous be able to swap out the chip ourselves? Is the CPU soldered on the board for the 2133?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>&#8230;on the other hand, the Nano is supposed to be pin compatible with the C7. Setting aside whether that would lead to a faster adoption time by companies currently using the C7 &#8211; would the more adventurous be able to swap out the chip ourselves? Is the CPU soldered on the board for the 2133?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-you-really-w/#comment-367610</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dave, I read the same review, but let&#039;s dig a little deeper. You mentioned the 56W used when both systems were idle. My Samsung Q1UP UMPC uses about 10W... when in use! If my portable device used 56W when idle then the power would drain from the 6-cell battery with about an hour of idle time. ;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My point being: out of the 56W in use when idle, the Atom is using .5W or 1% of the power draw. (Atom&#039;s TDP is .5w when idele and maxes out at 2.6W) Probably not a good reference system to use an Atom in a review, although it does highlight the processing power of the new Nano.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Dave, I read the same review, but let&#8217;s dig a little deeper. You mentioned the 56W used when both systems were idle. My Samsung Q1UP UMPC uses about 10W&#8230; when in use! If my portable device used 56W when idle then the power would drain from the 6-cell battery with about an hour of idle time. ;)</p>
<p>My point being: out of the 56W in use when idle, the Atom is using .5W or 1% of the power draw. (Atom&#8217;s TDP is .5w when idele and maxes out at 2.6W) Probably not a good reference system to use an Atom in a review, although it does highlight the processing power of the new Nano.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ingram</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-you-really-w/#comment-367611</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I read a review today comparing the Atom and Nano. The power difference between idle &amp; flatout on the Atom was 4W and was 25W for the Nano. The &#039;gotya&#039; was the fact that the idle power was around 56W for both, so the difference wasn&#039;t that great. What was surprising was the performance gains that the Atom had in some areas, even though it is a simpler processor.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=597&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=597&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a review today comparing the Atom and Nano. The power difference between idle &#038; flatout on the Atom was 4W and was 25W for the Nano. The &#8216;gotya&#8217; was the fact that the idle power was around 56W for both, so the difference wasn&#8217;t that great. What was surprising was the performance gains that the Atom had in some areas, even though it is a simpler processor.<br />
<a href="http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=597" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=597</a></p>
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		<title>By: Baba</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-you-really-w/#comment-367612</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Atom Z540 does *not* support 64bit !&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Where did u get your info ?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I got mine from Intel:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=35460&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=35460&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Only Atom CPU with 64bit Support is the el-cheapo Atom 230.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Atom Z540 does *not* support 64bit !</p>
<p>Where did u get your info ?</p>
<p>I got mine from Intel:<br />
<a href="http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=35460" rel="nofollow">http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=35460</a></p>
<p>Only Atom CPU with 64bit Support is the el-cheapo Atom 230.</p>
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		<title>By: TimothyT</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-you-really-w/#comment-367613</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s great how you respond to comments on this site. I was reading a notebook review (I think laptopmag) and noticed this too, how the VIA chip uses much more power. But in the end, the battery life is still the same for most atom/nano netbooks that don&#039;t have extended batteries. I dislike that the most. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-I would still take the msi wind over the hp mini-note. the hp has a fantastic keyboard, but I&#039;ve had no problems with the wind and the HP is just so much more expensive!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s great how you respond to comments on this site. I was reading a notebook review (I think laptopmag) and noticed this too, how the VIA chip uses much more power. But in the end, the battery life is still the same for most atom/nano netbooks that don&#8217;t have extended batteries. I dislike that the most. </p>
<p>-I would still take the msi wind over the hp mini-note. the hp has a fantastic keyboard, but I&#8217;ve had no problems with the wind and the HP is just so much more expensive!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-you-really-w/#comment-367614</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think the question also lies on what sort of atom your comparing the nano too.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think its been put back to september but thats when the dual core atoms get released, these I presume will be far better at multi-tasking how these compare to the nano, which I don&#039;t believe goes dual core to some point in 2009&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>I think the question also lies on what sort of atom your comparing the nano too.</p>
<p>I think its been put back to september but thats when the dual core atoms get released, these I presume will be far better at multi-tasking how these compare to the nano, which I don&#8217;t believe goes dual core to some point in 2009</p>
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		<title>By: aaalone</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Hi Gordon, did you reinstall the whole Vista to your mininote or using the built-in Vista? I use the built-in Vista but it seems running not very well. It takes me more than 3 minutes to start it up!&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Hi Gordon, did you reinstall the whole Vista to your mininote or using the built-in Vista? I use the built-in Vista but it seems running not very well. It takes me more than 3 minutes to start it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Cahill</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-you-really-w/#comment-367616</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;All the talk of how poor the processor was nearly put me off getting a Mini-Note. But I&#039;m glad I did. I&#039;m actually pleasantly surprised with the performance, especially after an upgrade to 2GB ram and even with an upgrade to Vista Home Premium. I have no problems running ripped DVD&#039;s full screen and although HD digital TV stutters standard def digital TV fine which surprised me. It definately runs better than y Sony UX with XP on it. Much, much better.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s even inspired me to install Photoshop for light work in the field.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The only real issue is multitasking, but I expected issues there and it&#039;s not as bad as I thought it might be.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So all in all I don&#039;t care what could have been because the Mini-Note does everythin I expected and much more.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Gordon&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>All the talk of how poor the processor was nearly put me off getting a Mini-Note. But I&#8217;m glad I did. I&#8217;m actually pleasantly surprised with the performance, especially after an upgrade to 2GB ram and even with an upgrade to Vista Home Premium. I have no problems running ripped DVD&#8217;s full screen and although HD digital TV stutters standard def digital TV fine which surprised me. It definately runs better than y Sony UX with XP on it. Much, much better.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s even inspired me to install Photoshop for light work in the field.</p>
<p>The only real issue is multitasking, but I expected issues there and it&#8217;s not as bad as I thought it might be.</p>
<p>So all in all I don&#8217;t care what could have been because the Mini-Note does everythin I expected and much more.</p>
<p>Gordon</p>
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		<title>By: Scotty</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;The Atom has variants that run 64 bit code, the Z540 for example.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>The Atom has variants that run 64 bit code, the Z540 for example.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin C. Tofel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Steve, I think your that&#039;s about the only likely upgrade path. You gain performance over the existing C7-M and don&#039;t go up in power usage. So the question becomes: how does the 1.3 GHz Nano compare to the 1.6 GHz Atom. Can&#039;t wait to find out!&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Steve, I think your that&#8217;s about the only likely upgrade path. You gain performance over the existing C7-M and don&#8217;t go up in power usage. So the question becomes: how does the 1.3 GHz Nano compare to the 1.6 GHz Atom. Can&#8217;t wait to find out!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve 'Chippy' Paine</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It looks to me like there&#039;s a nice upgrade path with the 1.33Ghz Nano.

Performance would be much better than the 1.6Ghz C7 (lets say between 50-200% CPU performance increaase) for the same 8W TDP.

In addition, you&#039;d be able to lock down the CPU to 1Ghz at times of mobile need to save energy, increase battery life and still have the same processing power as the 1.6Ghz.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks to me like there&#8217;s a nice upgrade path with the 1.33Ghz Nano.</p>
<p>Performance would be much better than the 1.6Ghz C7 (lets say between 50-200% CPU performance increaase) for the same 8W TDP.</p>
<p>In addition, you&#8217;d be able to lock down the CPU to 1Ghz at times of mobile need to save energy, increase battery life and still have the same processing power as the 1.6Ghz.</p>
<p>Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian E</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been one of the folks enthusiastically waiting for the HP to get the Nano. But, I&#039;ll admit my reasons are somewhat peculiar: the Nano, unlike the Atom, is a 64-bit processor, meaning I can run 64-bit Linux on it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you don&#039;t care about that, then I don&#039;t know that the Nano will provide many advantages over the current processor.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve been one of the folks enthusiastically waiting for the HP to get the Nano. But, I&#8217;ll admit my reasons are somewhat peculiar: the Nano, unlike the Atom, is a 64-bit processor, meaning I can run 64-bit Linux on it.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t care about that, then I don&#8217;t know that the Nano will provide many advantages over the current processor.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kendrick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kendrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I seem to remember reading somewhere that one of the problems with the Atom is it will only execute inline code and not random access.  If that is in fact true then benchmarks would likely be the only way to compare them with the Nano.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I seem to remember reading somewhere that one of the problems with the Atom is it will only execute inline code and not random access.  If that is in fact true then benchmarks would likely be the only way to compare them with the Nano.</p>
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