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		<title>By: Sumocat</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-netbooks-need-to-be-saved/#comment-413268</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sumocat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Save the [small laptops]: You&#039;re still at this. I thought you had more important things to do.

1. Okay, you got me on HP. They were initially off the hook for not using the term in their product names, but obviously they&#039;ve embraced the category. I should have left it with Asus for not using it, but credit where it&#039;s due: Intel (re-)introduced the term. Not that I&#039;m accusing you of giving credit where it&#039;s due.

2. It&#039;s a fact that the trademark is registered and others are using it, but I haven&#039;t accused you of infringement. You going to sue me on behalf of Intel?

3. &quot;Slander refers to a malicious, false and defamatory spoken statement or report&quot;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation
&quot;Slander is an untruthful oral (spoken) statement...&quot;
http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/term/85BAB88B-0660-4AB6-A2F5C32E716A6D52
&quot;A false defamation (expressed in spoken words, signs, or gestures)...&quot;
http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/s052.htm
Show me one instance where I uttered a word about you.

4. You seem to know very little about Psion, trademarks, legal terms, logic, or anything else that might be relevant to your endeavor. You can see I have access to the Internet, right? Behold the source of my hell of a lot of knowledge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psion. Yeah, that was really f&#039;n hard.

5. I never claimed to be unbiased, but your implication is unfounded, false, and malicious. You might want to ease up on the libel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Save the [small laptops]: You&#8217;re still at this. I thought you had more important things to do.</p>
<p>1. Okay, you got me on HP. They were initially off the hook for not using the term in their product names, but obviously they&#8217;ve embraced the category. I should have left it with Asus for not using it, but credit where it&#8217;s due: Intel (re-)introduced the term. Not that I&#8217;m accusing you of giving credit where it&#8217;s due.</p>
<p>2. It&#8217;s a fact that the trademark is registered and others are using it, but I haven&#8217;t accused you of infringement. You going to sue me on behalf of Intel?</p>
<p>3. &#8220;Slander refers to a malicious, false and defamatory spoken statement or report&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation</a><br />
&#8220;Slander is an untruthful oral (spoken) statement&#8230;&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/term/85BAB88B-0660-4AB6-A2F5C32E716A6D52" rel="nofollow">http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/term/85BAB88B-0660-4AB6-A2F5C32E716A6D52</a><br />
&#8220;A false defamation (expressed in spoken words, signs, or gestures)&#8230;&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/s052.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/s052.htm</a><br />
Show me one instance where I uttered a word about you.</p>
<p>4. You seem to know very little about Psion, trademarks, legal terms, logic, or anything else that might be relevant to your endeavor. You can see I have access to the Internet, right? Behold the source of my hell of a lot of knowledge: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psion" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psion</a>. Yeah, that was really f&#8217;n hard.</p>
<p>5. I never claimed to be unbiased, but your implication is unfounded, false, and malicious. You might want to ease up on the libel.</p>
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		<title>By: Save the Netbooks</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-netbooks-need-to-be-saved/#comment-413267</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Save the Netbooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Sumocat: surprised you&#039;re still at this...
Acer: &quot;Acer’s all-new ultra-lightweight, ultraportable netbooks were designed to bring you the ultimate in mobile freedom. Combining all the simplicity, quality and ease of use you expect from Acer with everything you need to stay connected, chat and manage your life on the road, these Netbooks are set to change our expectations of simplicity on the move.&quot;

HP: The *title* of their product page is &quot;HP Mini 1000 Netbook Computers&quot; FFS.

Intel: They were one of many. FWIW Microsoft &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2009/feb09/02-03NetbooksQA.mspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;credit&lt;/a&gt; them with it too. We don&#039;t.

2. Psion sent some a bunch of warning letters - you came out and stated it as fact.

3. &quot;slander: a false, malicious statement (spoken or published), especially one which is injurious to a person&#039;s reputation&quot;. Sounds pretty much spot on to me.

You seem to know a hell of a lot about Psion for an unbiased commentator (their 29 year age for example)... they may well not have been a &quot;joke of a company&quot; before but with these antics it&#039;s not so sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sumocat: surprised you&#8217;re still at this&#8230;<br />
Acer: &#8220;Acer’s all-new ultra-lightweight, ultraportable netbooks were designed to bring you the ultimate in mobile freedom. Combining all the simplicity, quality and ease of use you expect from Acer with everything you need to stay connected, chat and manage your life on the road, these Netbooks are set to change our expectations of simplicity on the move.&#8221;</p>
<p>HP: The *title* of their product page is &#8220;HP Mini 1000 Netbook Computers&#8221; FFS.</p>
<p>Intel: They were one of many. FWIW Microsoft <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2009/feb09/02-03NetbooksQA.mspx" rel="nofollow">credit</a> them with it too. We don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>2. Psion sent some a bunch of warning letters &#8211; you came out and stated it as fact.</p>
<p>3. &#8220;slander: a false, malicious statement (spoken or published), especially one which is injurious to a person&#8217;s reputation&#8221;. Sounds pretty much spot on to me.</p>
<p>You seem to know a hell of a lot about Psion for an unbiased commentator (their 29 year age for example)&#8230; they may well not have been a &#8220;joke of a company&#8221; before but with these antics it&#8217;s not so sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Sumocat</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-netbooks-need-to-be-saved/#comment-413266</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sumocat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@savethenetbooks: 1. Asus doesn&#039;t use the term &quot;netbook.&quot; Neither does HP. Psion has specified this in their statements. Intel, on the other hand, has taken credit for (re-)introducing the term:
http://blogs.intel.com/technology/2008/03/thoughts_on_netbooks.php

2. Psion has already made the accusation of trademark infringement through legal action. I am reiterating the accusation, not renewing it.

3. How do you expect to fight Psion&#039;s legal action when you don&#039;t even know the definition of &quot;slander?&quot; Seriously, have you done any research into this endeavor?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@savethenetbooks: 1. Asus doesn&#8217;t use the term &#8220;netbook.&#8221; Neither does HP. Psion has specified this in their statements. Intel, on the other hand, has taken credit for (re-)introducing the term:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.intel.com/technology/2008/03/thoughts_on_netbooks.php" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.intel.com/technology/2008/03/thoughts_on_netbooks.php</a></p>
<p>2. Psion has already made the accusation of trademark infringement through legal action. I am reiterating the accusation, not renewing it.</p>
<p>3. How do you expect to fight Psion&#8217;s legal action when you don&#8217;t even know the definition of &#8220;slander?&#8221; Seriously, have you done any research into this endeavor?</p>
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		<title>By: savethenetbooks</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-netbooks-need-to-be-saved/#comment-413265</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[savethenetbooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Sumocat: Crediting Intel with the netbook is a bit much don&#039;t you think - they weren&#039;t even involved until &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=intel+netbook&amp;ned=us&amp;scoring=t&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;early/mid 2008&lt;/a&gt;. I&#039;d be more inclined to &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=asus+netbook&amp;btnG=Search+Archives&amp;ned=us&amp;scoring=t&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;credit Asus&lt;/a&gt;, but then again I don&#039;t see much value in assessing which of the various vendors deserves the &quot;most&quot; recognition when there have been so many of them involved.

Accusing Intel (and us indirectly) of trademark infringement in the absence of any action is definitely too much and you might want to ease up on the slander.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sumocat: Crediting Intel with the netbook is a bit much don&#8217;t you think &#8211; they weren&#8217;t even involved until <a href="http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=intel+netbook&amp;ned=us&amp;scoring=t" rel="nofollow">early/mid 2008</a>. I&#8217;d be more inclined to <a href="http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=asus+netbook&amp;btnG=Search+Archives&amp;ned=us&amp;scoring=t" rel="nofollow">credit Asus</a>, but then again I don&#8217;t see much value in assessing which of the various vendors deserves the &#8220;most&#8221; recognition when there have been so many of them involved.</p>
<p>Accusing Intel (and us indirectly) of trademark infringement in the absence of any action is definitely too much and you might want to ease up on the slander.</p>
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		<title>By: Sumocat</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-netbooks-need-to-be-saved/#comment-413264</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sumocat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@savethe[smalllaptops]: If you were Intel, I wouldn&#039;t have implied that you bought into their marketing or that they appreciate your efforts to enable their trademark infringement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@savethe[smalllaptops]: If you were Intel, I wouldn&#8217;t have implied that you bought into their marketing or that they appreciate your efforts to enable their trademark infringement.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-netbooks-need-to-be-saved/#comment-413263</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Psion has designed some great hardware like their famous 5mx but their problem is that beyond a cell phone everyone expects a computer with a keyboard to have Windows not a proprietary OS like Symbian from Psion.

Rather than crying about their netbook name of their less popular larger computer, they should come out with an updated Psion 5mx but scrap the Symbian and load MS Vista on it or license that form factor so others can make versions for Windows.  

Nobody wants a Symbian OS netbook or computer.

That 5mx had one sweet keyboard in a pocket size form factor though, too bad they are too dumb to not release a Windows version.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psion has designed some great hardware like their famous 5mx but their problem is that beyond a cell phone everyone expects a computer with a keyboard to have Windows not a proprietary OS like Symbian from Psion.</p>
<p>Rather than crying about their netbook name of their less popular larger computer, they should come out with an updated Psion 5mx but scrap the Symbian and load MS Vista on it or license that form factor so others can make versions for Windows.  </p>
<p>Nobody wants a Symbian OS netbook or computer.</p>
<p>That 5mx had one sweet keyboard in a pocket size form factor though, too bad they are too dumb to not release a Windows version.</p>
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		<title>By: savethenetbooks</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-netbooks-need-to-be-saved/#comment-413262</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[savethenetbooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re not Intel, and besides Intel themselves are having enough trouble with netbooks because a&gt; they&#039;re cannibalising their own sales (they obviously make less selling Atom - about as much as a Celeron) and b&gt; the latest models aren&#039;t using Intel chips at all, rather ARM, MIPS, SoC, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re not Intel, and besides Intel themselves are having enough trouble with netbooks because a&gt; they&#8217;re cannibalising their own sales (they obviously make less selling Atom &#8211; about as much as a Celeron) and b&gt; the latest models aren&#8217;t using Intel chips at all, rather ARM, MIPS, SoC, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Sumocat</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-netbooks-need-to-be-saved/#comment-413261</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sumocat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@savethenetbooks: &quot;&#039;Netbooks&#039; as we know them today grew organically because consumers can quickly associate a meaning with the term&quot; -- &quot;Grew organically?&quot; Intel coined the term and pushed it on the market. It&#039;s successful marketing by a big company stealing a trademark from a small one, born from an attempt to undercut the OLPC project. Good job playing the victim though. I&#039;m sure Intel appreciates your efforts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@savethenetbooks: &#8220;&#8216;Netbooks&#8217; as we know them today grew organically because consumers can quickly associate a meaning with the term&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;Grew organically?&#8221; Intel coined the term and pushed it on the market. It&#8217;s successful marketing by a big company stealing a trademark from a small one, born from an attempt to undercut the OLPC project. Good job playing the victim though. I&#8217;m sure Intel appreciates your efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: savethenetbooks</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-netbooks-need-to-be-saved/#comment-413260</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[savethenetbooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@James Kendrick There&#039;s one *very* important difference between &quot;Newton&quot; and &quot;Netbook&quot;.

Newton is what we call an &quot;arbitrary&quot; trademark in that it&#039;s a real word used in a way that has no connection with its actual meaning. The best example of this is the word &quot;Apple&quot; used in the context of computers. These, and &quot;fanciful&quot; trademarks (like Kodak, which was invented for the purpose) are the strongest types of trademarks.

Netbook on the other hand is descriptive in that it is a portmanteau of &quot;Internet&quot; and &quot;Notebook&quot;. As such it never should have been afforded protection in the first place.

&quot;Netbooks&quot; as we know them today grew organically because consumers can quickly associate a meaning with the term, however if a &quot;Newton&quot; PDA came into existence tomorrow then it would clearly be trying to hang on the coat-tails of Apple&#039;s brand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James Kendrick There&#8217;s one *very* important difference between &#8220;Newton&#8221; and &#8220;Netbook&#8221;.</p>
<p>Newton is what we call an &#8220;arbitrary&#8221; trademark in that it&#8217;s a real word used in a way that has no connection with its actual meaning. The best example of this is the word &#8220;Apple&#8221; used in the context of computers. These, and &#8220;fanciful&#8221; trademarks (like Kodak, which was invented for the purpose) are the strongest types of trademarks.</p>
<p>Netbook on the other hand is descriptive in that it is a portmanteau of &#8220;Internet&#8221; and &#8220;Notebook&#8221;. As such it never should have been afforded protection in the first place.</p>
<p>&#8220;Netbooks&#8221; as we know them today grew organically because consumers can quickly associate a meaning with the term, however if a &#8220;Newton&#8221; PDA came into existence tomorrow then it would clearly be trying to hang on the coat-tails of Apple&#8217;s brand.</p>
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		<title>By: savethenetbooks</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/do-netbooks-need-to-be-saved/#comment-413259</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[savethenetbooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a great analogy but bear in mind that in this case it&#039;s not the same toy. &#039;netBook&#039; as Psion used it was a (largely insignificant) product brand. &#039;netbook&#039; as exists today is a descriptive name for a generic class of laptop computers. The latter grew organically, completely independently of the former.

They really ought to STFU, dust off the old blueprints and proclaim themselves the market leader. All going to plans that&#039;s what will eventually happen, but it seems they are intent on dragging their name through the mud first.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great analogy but bear in mind that in this case it&#8217;s not the same toy. &#8216;netBook&#8217; as Psion used it was a (largely insignificant) product brand. &#8216;netbook&#8217; as exists today is a descriptive name for a generic class of laptop computers. The latter grew organically, completely independently of the former.</p>
<p>They really ought to STFU, dust off the old blueprints and proclaim themselves the market leader. All going to plans that&#8217;s what will eventually happen, but it seems they are intent on dragging their name through the mud first.</p>
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