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	<title>Comments on: Bluetooth Stereo: The Song Doesn&#8217;t Remain the Same</title>
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		<title>By: Gadget news</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/bluetooth-stereo-the-song-doesnt-remain-the-same/#comment-421191</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gadget news]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 05:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;fantastic work.. keep it up..&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fantastic work.. keep it up..</p>
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		<title>By: ray Johnson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/bluetooth-stereo-the-song-doesnt-remain-the-same/#comment-421190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ray Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what kinda phone do u use with the jaybird and do u know if they work with the iphone3gs? please email me back i really need to know thanks :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what kinda phone do u use with the jaybird and do u know if they work with the iphone3gs? please email me back i really need to know thanks :)</p>
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		<title>By: inbox</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/bluetooth-stereo-the-song-doesnt-remain-the-same/#comment-421189</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sony HBH-IS800 is cool but I read that there&#039;s no vol control on 3GS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sony HBH-IS800 is cool but I read that there&#8217;s no vol control on 3GS.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/bluetooth-stereo-the-song-doesnt-remain-the-same/#comment-421188</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PMJI here, but can someone please recommend a BT headset exists that handles calls &amp; music reliably well on both Palm Pre &amp; iPhone 3Gs (I haven&#039;t decided which handset to get, and may switch back &amp; forth)

I look forward to completing my port... 

from [iPod plus (Palm Centro on Palm Desktop) &amp; Thunderbird on WinXP]

to [Pre or iPhone &amp; Thunderbird/Sunbird with Google IMAP/Contacts/CalDAV on XP/Mac/Fedora]. 

Finding decent, reliable, stereo headset over BT supported by both Pre or iPhone would be nice so thanks, in advance, for any helpful suggestions on that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PMJI here, but can someone please recommend a BT headset exists that handles calls &amp; music reliably well on both Palm Pre &amp; iPhone 3Gs (I haven&#8217;t decided which handset to get, and may switch back &amp; forth)</p>
<p>I look forward to completing my port&#8230; </p>
<p>from [iPod plus (Palm Centro on Palm Desktop) &amp; Thunderbird on WinXP]</p>
<p>to [Pre or iPhone &amp; Thunderbird/Sunbird with Google IMAP/Contacts/CalDAV on XP/Mac/Fedora]. </p>
<p>Finding decent, reliable, stereo headset over BT supported by both Pre or iPhone would be nice so thanks, in advance, for any helpful suggestions on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Menneisyys</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/bluetooth-stereo-the-song-doesnt-remain-the-same/#comment-421187</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Menneisyys]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Just posted a reply to my previous post - I post this remark so that it isn&#039;t ignored because it&#039;s hidden in the sea of other, newer posts.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Just posted a reply to my previous post &#8211; I post this remark so that it isn&#8217;t ignored because it&#8217;s hidden in the sea of other, newer posts.)</p>
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		<title>By: Menneisyys</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/bluetooth-stereo-the-song-doesnt-remain-the-same/#comment-421186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Menneisyys]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Kevin C. Tofel (sorry, there isn&#039;t a &quot;Reply&quot; link associated with your message; that is, I can’t directly answer you):

1.) I&#039;m just trying to find out whether this is an AT&amp;T firmware / iPhone 3G-specific bug. If it is, then, it easily explains why Sascha had dramatically different results.

2.) OK, I agree I was a bit too attacking - I apologize. However, I still have problems with Sascha&#039;s aproach in general. 

As I&#039;ve pointed out in my article, A2DP is the world full of incompatibilities. (There&#039;s a reason why I evaluate the A2DP / AVRCP capabilities / compatibility of each handset or firmware version I review using tons of A2DP headphones – I want to be absolutely sure I don’t run into a particular incompatibility problem.) In a magazine article one may not want to publish a bad review of a given handset just based on tests with a single pair of headphones. Sascha may have preferred, after seeing the disastrous results,  either testing the iPhone 3G with other headphones or completely dropping the subject and not mentioning it at all. Nevertheless, just telling his readers the iPhone 3G has very bad and sub-par BT stereo wasn’t the best approach. 

When there&#039;s chance a given headset + BT headphones combo produces very bad results, it may be a simple compatibility issue. Which is very common with A2DP, the standard&#039;s being new and a lot of handset / headphones manufacturers simply not following the standard / trying to make their gadgets compatible with everything else (see for example the play/pause incompatibilities with Symbian S60 phones.)

Note that I&#039;m in no way an Apple fanboy. I&#039;ve published a lot of negative reports on its A2DP and AVRCP support. Yes, it does lack - but certainly not at the audio quality department (at least when it comes to the T-Mo specific firmware). As far as audio quality is concerned, the iPhone 3G has equally good (or bad, if anyone feels A2DP simply can&#039;t deliver Hi-Fi audio quality) sound reproduction as ALL of the competing smartphone operating systems. I’ve run some very thorough tests and I can say that there’s no difference in audio quality between a T-Mobile firmware-based iPhone 3G and Windows Mobile (with a new, 6+ OS; that is, already with decent A2DP support) / Symbian S60 / Blackberry 8800. 

Note that, being a T-Mo subscriber, I could only test the T-Mo firmware (without any hacks – my iPhone 3G isn’t even jailbroken). The AT&amp;T firmware may indeed have completely messed up A2DP, which AT&amp;T and/or Apple didn’t find out. That is, I’m not stating Sascha’s results just can’t be right. It’s highly possible AT&amp;T / Apple have indeed messed the A2DP support in their AT&amp;T-specific firmware royally. Hope someone will be able to conduct some comparative reviews (the AT&amp;T 3G and any other smartphone) – I’ve cross-posted my request (original at http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/anyone-att-iphone-3g-stereo-bt-headphones-and-another-a2dp-phone-or-3gs ) to many iPhone boards. As soon as I have some comparative results, I tell you all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Kevin C. Tofel (sorry, there isn&#8217;t a &#8220;Reply&#8221; link associated with your message; that is, I can’t directly answer you):</p>
<p>1.) I&#8217;m just trying to find out whether this is an AT&amp;T firmware / iPhone 3G-specific bug. If it is, then, it easily explains why Sascha had dramatically different results.</p>
<p>2.) OK, I agree I was a bit too attacking &#8211; I apologize. However, I still have problems with Sascha&#8217;s aproach in general. </p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve pointed out in my article, A2DP is the world full of incompatibilities. (There&#8217;s a reason why I evaluate the A2DP / AVRCP capabilities / compatibility of each handset or firmware version I review using tons of A2DP headphones – I want to be absolutely sure I don’t run into a particular incompatibility problem.) In a magazine article one may not want to publish a bad review of a given handset just based on tests with a single pair of headphones. Sascha may have preferred, after seeing the disastrous results,  either testing the iPhone 3G with other headphones or completely dropping the subject and not mentioning it at all. Nevertheless, just telling his readers the iPhone 3G has very bad and sub-par BT stereo wasn’t the best approach. </p>
<p>When there&#8217;s chance a given headset + BT headphones combo produces very bad results, it may be a simple compatibility issue. Which is very common with A2DP, the standard&#8217;s being new and a lot of handset / headphones manufacturers simply not following the standard / trying to make their gadgets compatible with everything else (see for example the play/pause incompatibilities with Symbian S60 phones.)</p>
<p>Note that I&#8217;m in no way an Apple fanboy. I&#8217;ve published a lot of negative reports on its A2DP and AVRCP support. Yes, it does lack &#8211; but certainly not at the audio quality department (at least when it comes to the T-Mo specific firmware). As far as audio quality is concerned, the iPhone 3G has equally good (or bad, if anyone feels A2DP simply can&#8217;t deliver Hi-Fi audio quality) sound reproduction as ALL of the competing smartphone operating systems. I’ve run some very thorough tests and I can say that there’s no difference in audio quality between a T-Mobile firmware-based iPhone 3G and Windows Mobile (with a new, 6+ OS; that is, already with decent A2DP support) / Symbian S60 / Blackberry 8800. </p>
<p>Note that, being a T-Mo subscriber, I could only test the T-Mo firmware (without any hacks – my iPhone 3G isn’t even jailbroken). The AT&amp;T firmware may indeed have completely messed up A2DP, which AT&amp;T and/or Apple didn’t find out. That is, I’m not stating Sascha’s results just can’t be right. It’s highly possible AT&amp;T / Apple have indeed messed the A2DP support in their AT&amp;T-specific firmware royally. Hope someone will be able to conduct some comparative reviews (the AT&amp;T 3G and any other smartphone) – I’ve cross-posted my request (original at <a href="http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/anyone-att-iphone-3g-stereo-bt-headphones-and-another-a2dp-phone-or-3gs" rel="nofollow">http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/anyone-att-iphone-3g-stereo-bt-headphones-and-another-a2dp-phone-or-3gs</a> ) to many iPhone boards. As soon as I have some comparative results, I tell you all.</p>
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		<title>By: John Frum</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/bluetooth-stereo-the-song-doesnt-remain-the-same/#comment-421185</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I use iPhone 3.0 stereo bluetooth in my car with a Jensen WBT210 receiver that performs about as noise- and distortion-free as bluetooth is capable, regardless of where the phone or receiver are located. It&#039;s also perfectly acceptable with earbuds, requiring hardware the size of a small mp3 player but adding none around the ears. I paid all of $13 for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use iPhone 3.0 stereo bluetooth in my car with a Jensen WBT210 receiver that performs about as noise- and distortion-free as bluetooth is capable, regardless of where the phone or receiver are located. It&#8217;s also perfectly acceptable with earbuds, requiring hardware the size of a small mp3 player but adding none around the ears. I paid all of $13 for it.</p>
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		<title>By: laurnzo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[laurnzo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay i thought it was just me but i&#039;m using a Motorola 9-HD bluetooth on my iphone 3G and i must agree with some that apple sucks when is comes to stereo Bluetooth. I mean come on, i&#039;m a crazy Apple fun and i can say say i own almost every brand of their products but also trying the headphone on my Macbook pro and my brand new iMac.One my brother cheap toshiba laptop his G1 phone and i was jealous. Apple need to step up in certain area i think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay i thought it was just me but i&#8217;m using a Motorola 9-HD bluetooth on my iphone 3G and i must agree with some that apple sucks when is comes to stereo Bluetooth. I mean come on, i&#8217;m a crazy Apple fun and i can say say i own almost every brand of their products but also trying the headphone on my Macbook pro and my brand new iMac.One my brother cheap toshiba laptop his G1 phone and i was jealous. Apple need to step up in certain area i think.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andreas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it possible that your headset (sascha) is bugged? I&#039;ve had a lot of experience with Bluetooth audio both for personal use and reviewing them for anythingbutipod.com. One device, a MSI Bluetooth receiver, had an extremely weird bug where sometimes it would lose its perfect connection and go into a state where it sounded more like AM radio than anything else. I never figured out what the problem was as the device was poor even when working correctly, nor have I ever encoutered this bug on any other headset, but it sounded a lot like what you had with the BlackBeat (just permanent and not random like on mine), since so many people find that headset to work just fine. Bluetooth audio depends on so many things, from the stream format, the transmitting device, the receiving device (headset), decoding etc - might be a unit-specific malfunction. With the MSI receiver I had the bug several times using a Nokia E51, but never using a Sony A820 mp3 player, any of my Bluetooth transmitters nor any of my other A2DP cellphones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible that your headset (sascha) is bugged? I&#8217;ve had a lot of experience with Bluetooth audio both for personal use and reviewing them for anythingbutipod.com. One device, a MSI Bluetooth receiver, had an extremely weird bug where sometimes it would lose its perfect connection and go into a state where it sounded more like AM radio than anything else. I never figured out what the problem was as the device was poor even when working correctly, nor have I ever encoutered this bug on any other headset, but it sounded a lot like what you had with the BlackBeat (just permanent and not random like on mine), since so many people find that headset to work just fine. Bluetooth audio depends on so many things, from the stream format, the transmitting device, the receiving device (headset), decoding etc &#8211; might be a unit-specific malfunction. With the MSI receiver I had the bug several times using a Nokia E51, but never using a Sony A820 mp3 player, any of my Bluetooth transmitters nor any of my other A2DP cellphones.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andreas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to mention the JayBirds are the crappiest Bluetooth headphones out there. Piss poor design, aweful sound quality and a range so bad you basically need to ducttape the device to your head to get a signal]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention the JayBirds are the crappiest Bluetooth headphones out there. Piss poor design, aweful sound quality and a range so bad you basically need to ducttape the device to your head to get a signal</p>
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