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		<title>By: John Christian</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/batteryeater_re/#comment-408012</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Christian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ah the woes of copy paste, the 3rd reporting with Max performance and lowest brightness should read &quot;CPU Speed Max Performance and running at ~1 GHz&quot; naturally. :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think battery eater would empty my battery in 100 minutes or so... no luck here with that LED screen! :(&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Ah the woes of copy paste, the 3rd reporting with Max performance and lowest brightness should read &#8220;CPU Speed Max Performance and running at ~1 GHz&#8221; naturally. :)</p>
<p>I think battery eater would empty my battery in 100 minutes or so&#8230; no luck here with that LED screen! :(</p>
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		<title>By: John Christian</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/batteryeater_re/#comment-408013</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Christian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ok here are some facts about my Q1P model number NP-Q1-V002/SEA.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Standard 3-cell battery.&lt;br /&gt;
Wear level: 7%&lt;br /&gt;
Full capacity: 26640 mWh&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Battery Manager Rate: Normal&lt;br /&gt;
Screen at LOWEST brightness (1/8)&lt;br /&gt;
CPU Speed Dynamic Switching and running at ~600 MHz&lt;br /&gt;
NHC -8,92W (Wireless On) and -7,737 (Wireless Off)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Battery Manager Rate: Normal&lt;br /&gt;
Screen at HIGHEST brightness (8/8)&lt;br /&gt;
CPU Speed Dynamic Switching and running at ~600 MHz&lt;br /&gt;
NHC -10,034W (Wireless On) and -9,613 (Wireless Off)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All wattage numbers are reported when the computer has&lt;br /&gt;
idled a bit to settle on 1-3% CPU load. The charge rate&lt;br /&gt;
seems to fluctuate somewhat even at idle. At times it&lt;br /&gt;
jumps up and down 1 watt.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now lets see the same numbers with More CPU power!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Battery Manager Rate: Max Performance&lt;br /&gt;
Screen at LOWEST brightness (1/8)&lt;br /&gt;
CPU Speed Max Performance and running at ~600 MHz&lt;br /&gt;
NHC -10,29W (Wireless On) and -8,136 (Wireless Off)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Battery Manager Rate: Max Performance&lt;br /&gt;
Screen at HIGHEST brightness (8/8)&lt;br /&gt;
CPU Speed Max Performance and running at ~1 GHz&lt;br /&gt;
NHC -11,333W (Wireless On) and -10,49 (Wireless Off)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So my Q1P seems to draw about 2 watts more than Kevins and some others. I guess the LED panel is something they have sneaked into the production at a later stage and some of us just got unlucky and got the old one! :(&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Ok here are some facts about my Q1P model number NP-Q1-V002/SEA.</p>
<p>Standard 3-cell battery.<br />
Wear level: 7%<br />
Full capacity: 26640 mWh</p>
<p>Battery Manager Rate: Normal<br />
Screen at LOWEST brightness (1/8)<br />
CPU Speed Dynamic Switching and running at ~600 MHz<br />
NHC -8,92W (Wireless On) and -7,737 (Wireless Off)</p>
<p>Battery Manager Rate: Normal<br />
Screen at HIGHEST brightness (8/8)<br />
CPU Speed Dynamic Switching and running at ~600 MHz<br />
NHC -10,034W (Wireless On) and -9,613 (Wireless Off)</p>
<p>All wattage numbers are reported when the computer has<br />
idled a bit to settle on 1-3% CPU load. The charge rate<br />
seems to fluctuate somewhat even at idle. At times it<br />
jumps up and down 1 watt.</p>
<p>Now lets see the same numbers with More CPU power!</p>
<p>Battery Manager Rate: Max Performance<br />
Screen at LOWEST brightness (1/8)<br />
CPU Speed Max Performance and running at ~600 MHz<br />
NHC -10,29W (Wireless On) and -8,136 (Wireless Off)</p>
<p>Battery Manager Rate: Max Performance<br />
Screen at HIGHEST brightness (8/8)<br />
CPU Speed Max Performance and running at ~1 GHz<br />
NHC -11,333W (Wireless On) and -10,49 (Wireless Off)</p>
<p>So my Q1P seems to draw about 2 watts more than Kevins and some others. I guess the LED panel is something they have sneaked into the production at a later stage and some of us just got unlucky and got the old one! :(</p>
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		<title>By: jkk</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/batteryeater_re/#comment-408014</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Stewe: you should run battery calibration tool in bios to get it back..&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Stewe: you should run battery calibration tool in bios to get it back..</p>
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		<title>By: Anton P. Nym</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/batteryeater_re/#comment-408015</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anton P. Nym]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;My standard Q1 battery still gives me about 2 hours of use, give-or-take ten minutes, even though NHC is reporting a &quot;wear rate&quot; of 30%.  (I left it running in the case once, and it hasn&#039;t been the same since.)  Before the wipeout I used to routinely get 2.5 hours on the 3-cell.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Getting only an hour out of it sounds like a fried battery to me, too.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt; -- Steve&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>My standard Q1 battery still gives me about 2 hours of use, give-or-take ten minutes, even though NHC is reporting a &#8220;wear rate&#8221; of 30%.  (I left it running in the case once, and it hasn&#8217;t been the same since.)  Before the wipeout I used to routinely get 2.5 hours on the 3-cell.</p>
<p>Getting only an hour out of it sounds like a fried battery to me, too.</p>
<p> &#8212; Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/batteryeater_re/#comment-408016</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin C. Tofel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;That sounds like a battery problem for sure. I routinely got 2+ hours on the Q1 standard battery which at this point is 8 months old.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>That sounds like a battery problem for sure. I routinely got 2+ hours on the Q1 standard battery which at this point is 8 months old.</p>
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		<title>By: medah4rick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/batteryeater_re/#comment-408017</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;i think the celeron models have a defective standard battery.  the q1p probably has batterys that are doing what they should have been doing in the first place.  2-3 hrs real world usage.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;my q1&#039;s standard battery is only giving me an 1hr of usage.  i&#039;m trying to return it to samsung.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>i think the celeron models have a defective standard battery.  the q1p probably has batterys that are doing what they should have been doing in the first place.  2-3 hrs real world usage.</p>
<p>my q1&#8242;s standard battery is only giving me an 1hr of usage.  i&#8217;m trying to return it to samsung.</p>
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		<title>By: Willie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/batteryeater_re/#comment-408018</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;Is there a way to get the brighter screen to the q1.  The q1 isnt bright enough on the low settings.  And to watch a movies the brightness level has to all the way up.  And that kills the battery.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Is there a way to get the brighter screen to the q1.  The q1 isnt bright enough on the low settings.  And to watch a movies the brightness level has to all the way up.  And that kills the battery.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/mobile/batteryeater_re/#comment-408019</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin C. Tofel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Grimster, thanks for cracking open your unit and checking; I haven&#039;t done that yet. I didn&#039;t sit by the Q1P when I ran the test, so I can&#039;t confirm that the screen shut off during the test or not; all I can do is run it again, which I&#039;ll do today or tomorrow.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can tell that during real time usage, I used the Q1P last night for about 45 minutes with WiFi on. I checked the battery level at that time and it was around 73%. I then put the unit in sleep mode for dinner; roughly another hour. After I woke it up, I used it for another 1.5 hours, some of which that time was used to also run an external optical drive. I was doing a long installation (Office 2007) and saw the battery level warning icon in my tray so at that time I plugged it in. Roughly got 2.25 hours with an hour of sleep mode in the middle, which is more than I used to get with the Q1. I&#039;ll re-run the tests of course....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I should also mention that I had e-mail conversation with Steve at Carrypad yesterday and shared some Notebook Hardware Control data. In a relatively idle state, the Q1P was drawing around 7.5 to 8.5 watts with WiFi on. Turning the WiFi off yielded a drain in the 6.75 to 7.5 Watts. Bear in mind that all Q1 models have a 29 W/hr battery and that on my prior Q1 the drain was in the 8.7 to 10.8 watt range. I can&#039;t see the Pentium making that difference but again, I&#039;m willing to do more testing when time permits.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Grimster, thanks for cracking open your unit and checking; I haven&#8217;t done that yet. I didn&#8217;t sit by the Q1P when I ran the test, so I can&#8217;t confirm that the screen shut off during the test or not; all I can do is run it again, which I&#8217;ll do today or tomorrow.</p>
<p>I can tell that during real time usage, I used the Q1P last night for about 45 minutes with WiFi on. I checked the battery level at that time and it was around 73%. I then put the unit in sleep mode for dinner; roughly another hour. After I woke it up, I used it for another 1.5 hours, some of which that time was used to also run an external optical drive. I was doing a long installation (Office 2007) and saw the battery level warning icon in my tray so at that time I plugged it in. Roughly got 2.25 hours with an hour of sleep mode in the middle, which is more than I used to get with the Q1. I&#8217;ll re-run the tests of course&#8230;.</p>
<p>I should also mention that I had e-mail conversation with Steve at Carrypad yesterday and shared some Notebook Hardware Control data. In a relatively idle state, the Q1P was drawing around 7.5 to 8.5 watts with WiFi on. Turning the WiFi off yielded a drain in the 6.75 to 7.5 Watts. Bear in mind that all Q1 models have a 29 W/hr battery and that on my prior Q1 the drain was in the 8.7 to 10.8 watt range. I can&#8217;t see the Pentium making that difference but again, I&#8217;m willing to do more testing when time permits.</p>
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		<title>By: grimster</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Confirmed High voltage inverter! NO LED SCREEN!!! I just bought my Q1p last week also. Model : NP-Q1-V002/SEA&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just took my Q1p apart and there is a high voltage inverter with the classic pink and white high voltage wires leading into the screen. This means there is a lamp inside the screen and NO LEDs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am NOT getting 2:38 on battery eater but only 1:56. IMO the tests are flawed. I dont believe any Q1ps have the LED screen. What I think happened is that he ran his Q1p with the autosceen shut off feature on. Hense the 2:38 he got.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Confirmed High voltage inverter! NO LED SCREEN!!! I just bought my Q1p last week also. Model : NP-Q1-V002/SEA</p>
<p>Just took my Q1p apart and there is a high voltage inverter with the classic pink and white high voltage wires leading into the screen. This means there is a lamp inside the screen and NO LEDs.</p>
<p>I am NOT getting 2:38 on battery eater but only 1:56. IMO the tests are flawed. I dont believe any Q1ps have the LED screen. What I think happened is that he ran his Q1p with the autosceen shut off feature on. Hense the 2:38 he got.</p>
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		<title>By: brian aurelio</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;i thought it had a mouse pointer. if not that is a big deficiency in the samsung. perhaps we&#039;ll have to wait for that kidc model to make an appearance.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>i thought it had a mouse pointer. if not that is a big deficiency in the samsung. perhaps we&#8217;ll have to wait for that kidc model to make an appearance.</p>
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