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	<title>Comments on: Why Corporate IT Shouldn&#039;t Support Your iPhone</title>
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		<title>By: Douggie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting comments from both sides. Surely it is up to the user if they want to buy an iPhone even with it so called &quot;enterprise&quot; limits. I have had a Treo for 3 years and that sure has lots of limits (specifically speech quality)but it is great for corporate e-mail and some other apps.

The iPhone has solved both my Treo short comings as a phone and given me the ability to somewaht limit doing e-mail on weekends and at night. I use my Treo for e-mail and my iPhone for telephone calls during the week. On weekends, or on vacation I only carry my iPhone. If I only have my iPhone and need to access e-mail I can do that through web access to our corporate exchange (same as I could access my corporate e-mail over the web from any PC). How would I know I had an urgent e-mail? Someone would call me/send me an SMS that there was an urgent e-mail needing my attention! If it was not that urgent it can wait until I am at home or at the office.

Fortunately in Germany, T-Mobile offers a new service &quot;MultiSim&quot;. Two SIM cards with same number, which when called, both ring similtaneously. Therefore, I can have two devices (Treo and iPhone)connected (with full mobile functionality (voice and data) on one mobile phone account. Both devices pair seemlessly with my BMW, so it does not matter which phone I have with me.

If I am driving on a business trip with other folks in my car (as I often do), I can choose to answer calls via car&#039;s sound system with bluetooth (no privacy) or semi-private (pasengers only hear my side of the conversation) by answering on my bluetooth headset paired with my iPhone. This ability to have semi private conversations while driving with passengers is important. So, for me this is the perfect solution - Teo 650 and iPhone).

Most folks in my organization carry two mobile devices anyway, and have been doing so for years. iPhone is just great new technology, functionality and speech quality. Now I don&#039;t need to take my iPod on business trips as well.

I believe iPhones will become very prevelant in enterprises because execs like me want one anyway. Apple will solve the technical shortcomings and IT departments will be forced to support iPhones. Goodlink or someone else will make client for iPhone similar to the client on Treo to manager corpotae Exchange e-mail integration. How long did it take for Treo/Windows Mobile/Goodlink to get push exchange e-mail sorted out so it was widely useable in Enterprises. It was several years after Blackberry came out as an e-mail device only.

I suspect it will take Apple and their SP mates to get it sorted out! The SDK get released by Apple this month, I believe, and then there will be a torrent of new apps for the iPhone that will resolve many of the Apple doubters percieved shortcomings.

P.S.: A friend of mine is an executive at one of the leading global banks. Their policy is that telephony and corpotae e-mail can not be done on same device for security reasons. He has to have two devices (Blackberry and other mobile phone)! Bet this is not the only corporate that has similar policies fort execs at senior levels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comments from both sides. Surely it is up to the user if they want to buy an iPhone even with it so called &#8220;enterprise&#8221; limits. I have had a Treo for 3 years and that sure has lots of limits (specifically speech quality)but it is great for corporate e-mail and some other apps.</p>
<p>The iPhone has solved both my Treo short comings as a phone and given me the ability to somewaht limit doing e-mail on weekends and at night. I use my Treo for e-mail and my iPhone for telephone calls during the week. On weekends, or on vacation I only carry my iPhone. If I only have my iPhone and need to access e-mail I can do that through web access to our corporate exchange (same as I could access my corporate e-mail over the web from any PC). How would I know I had an urgent e-mail? Someone would call me/send me an SMS that there was an urgent e-mail needing my attention! If it was not that urgent it can wait until I am at home or at the office.</p>
<p>Fortunately in Germany, T-Mobile offers a new service &#8220;MultiSim&#8221;. Two SIM cards with same number, which when called, both ring similtaneously. Therefore, I can have two devices (Treo and iPhone)connected (with full mobile functionality (voice and data) on one mobile phone account. Both devices pair seemlessly with my BMW, so it does not matter which phone I have with me.</p>
<p>If I am driving on a business trip with other folks in my car (as I often do), I can choose to answer calls via car&#8217;s sound system with bluetooth (no privacy) or semi-private (pasengers only hear my side of the conversation) by answering on my bluetooth headset paired with my iPhone. This ability to have semi private conversations while driving with passengers is important. So, for me this is the perfect solution &#8211; Teo 650 and iPhone).</p>
<p>Most folks in my organization carry two mobile devices anyway, and have been doing so for years. iPhone is just great new technology, functionality and speech quality. Now I don&#8217;t need to take my iPod on business trips as well.</p>
<p>I believe iPhones will become very prevelant in enterprises because execs like me want one anyway. Apple will solve the technical shortcomings and IT departments will be forced to support iPhones. Goodlink or someone else will make client for iPhone similar to the client on Treo to manager corpotae Exchange e-mail integration. How long did it take for Treo/Windows Mobile/Goodlink to get push exchange e-mail sorted out so it was widely useable in Enterprises. It was several years after Blackberry came out as an e-mail device only.</p>
<p>I suspect it will take Apple and their SP mates to get it sorted out! The SDK get released by Apple this month, I believe, and then there will be a torrent of new apps for the iPhone that will resolve many of the Apple doubters percieved shortcomings.</p>
<p>P.S.: A friend of mine is an executive at one of the leading global banks. Their policy is that telephony and corpotae e-mail can not be done on same device for security reasons. He has to have two devices (Blackberry and other mobile phone)! Bet this is not the only corporate that has similar policies fort execs at senior levels.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Oblak - MacBigot.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/why-corporate-it-shouldnt-support-your-iphone/#comment-67872</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Oblak - MacBigot.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shadow, more correctly, it&#039;s &quot;guano con queso&quot;.

For those arguing either side, let me offer a moment of clarity.  The iPhone is a concept car.  What sets Apple apart from many other consumer electronics (and computer) manufacturers is that they often put a concept car into the showroom, and into the hands of the customer.  There are some customers who are willing to be on the &#039;bleeding edge&#039; even when it&#039;s clear that there are tremendous shortcomings -- for the sake of the little leaps and bounds in functionality that set devices with the Apple logo apart from the rest of the world.

Those tradeoffs are often glossed or whitewashed over, to be sure; but the chatter is so vibrant about what gains and losses are impactful that the whole industry gains by the squabbling that we, as consumers and pundits, make between when Apple capitalizes on a concept and when the rest of the world follows suit.

Anyone who is yelling &#039;all evil!&#039; or &#039;all flawless!&#039; are missing the point; but if you sift through the above comments you will see quite a strong representation of the &#039;fits my personal needs, and am glad for it&#039; -- at a strong enough percentage that Apple will likely continue doing what they&#039;ve been doing for decades.

This month, it was the new MacBook Air.  To read the comment boards and forums, you&#039;d think that Steve Jobs was personally trying to screw with all of our heads -- how DARE he come out with such an overpriced, under-featured, sexy device that few will find a perfect fit for their business lives?  (I am, of course, one of those opinionated, angry customers who can&#039;t figure out why Steve didn&#039;t make it the way *I* wanted it...)

The commenter above who pointed out that the article might just be a lame attempt to get hits on an advertisement-laden web page.  But then, it&#039;s probably somebody&#039;s job at Apple to monitor all of this and funnel it to their R&amp;D department before version x.x hits the store shelves.  Oh, and Sony, and RIM, and Microsoft, and HP, and Toshiba, and Nokia, and... well, you get the idea.

So keep the conversations going folks; but there really isn&#039;t a decent reason among us to be mud-slinging and aiming very personal attacks.  We&#039;re all just users in a 1.0 world -- which is exactly where many of us would like to be... and stay, for one reason or another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shadow, more correctly, it&#8217;s &#8220;guano con queso&#8221;.</p>
<p>For those arguing either side, let me offer a moment of clarity.  The iPhone is a concept car.  What sets Apple apart from many other consumer electronics (and computer) manufacturers is that they often put a concept car into the showroom, and into the hands of the customer.  There are some customers who are willing to be on the &#8216;bleeding edge&#8217; even when it&#8217;s clear that there are tremendous shortcomings &#8212; for the sake of the little leaps and bounds in functionality that set devices with the Apple logo apart from the rest of the world.</p>
<p>Those tradeoffs are often glossed or whitewashed over, to be sure; but the chatter is so vibrant about what gains and losses are impactful that the whole industry gains by the squabbling that we, as consumers and pundits, make between when Apple capitalizes on a concept and when the rest of the world follows suit.</p>
<p>Anyone who is yelling &#8216;all evil!&#8217; or &#8216;all flawless!&#8217; are missing the point; but if you sift through the above comments you will see quite a strong representation of the &#8216;fits my personal needs, and am glad for it&#8217; &#8212; at a strong enough percentage that Apple will likely continue doing what they&#8217;ve been doing for decades.</p>
<p>This month, it was the new MacBook Air.  To read the comment boards and forums, you&#8217;d think that Steve Jobs was personally trying to screw with all of our heads &#8212; how DARE he come out with such an overpriced, under-featured, sexy device that few will find a perfect fit for their business lives?  (I am, of course, one of those opinionated, angry customers who can&#8217;t figure out why Steve didn&#8217;t make it the way *I* wanted it&#8230;)</p>
<p>The commenter above who pointed out that the article might just be a lame attempt to get hits on an advertisement-laden web page.  But then, it&#8217;s probably somebody&#8217;s job at Apple to monitor all of this and funnel it to their R&amp;D department before version x.x hits the store shelves.  Oh, and Sony, and RIM, and Microsoft, and HP, and Toshiba, and Nokia, and&#8230; well, you get the idea.</p>
<p>So keep the conversations going folks; but there really isn&#8217;t a decent reason among us to be mud-slinging and aiming very personal attacks.  We&#8217;re all just users in a 1.0 world &#8212; which is exactly where many of us would like to be&#8230; and stay, for one reason or another.</p>
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		<title>By: Web Worker Daily &#187; Archive AT&#38;T Hawks iPhone to Business &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/why-corporate-it-shouldnt-support-your-iphone/#comment-67871</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Web Worker Daily &#187; Archive AT&#38;T Hawks iPhone to Business &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] every month for their individual phone bills. But they don&#8217;t do anything to address the other drawbacks of iPhones for corporate use that we recently [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] every month for their individual phone bills. But they don&#8217;t do anything to address the other drawbacks of iPhones for corporate use that we recently [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/why-corporate-it-shouldnt-support-your-iphone/#comment-67870</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The train already left the station.  Lot&#039;s of execs are already using it.  Some even paid for it as well as the service .

Open your eyes next time you travel.

The only issue I see is lack of encrypted files capability but it will soon come via the 3rd party guys.

My solution is even better.  An iPod Touch and leave the phone in the briefcase.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The train already left the station.  Lot&#8217;s of execs are already using it.  Some even paid for it as well as the service .</p>
<p>Open your eyes next time you travel.</p>
<p>The only issue I see is lack of encrypted files capability but it will soon come via the 3rd party guys.</p>
<p>My solution is even better.  An iPod Touch and leave the phone in the briefcase.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Hanson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Hanson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently at least 4 million people were satisfied.  But I&#039;m sure none of those were business folks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently at least 4 million people were satisfied.  But I&#8217;m sure none of those were business folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Zimmie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/why-corporate-it-shouldnt-support-your-iphone/#comment-67868</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zimmie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Tony: &quot;Also, unlike every other PDA, you can only get the SDK if you sign up for an account with Apple. And unlike the other PDA’s there is no way to test your app without a iphone.&quot;

You must work for Apple, since nobody else has access to the SDK yet, so nobody knows what it can and cannot do.

Either that or you&#039;re just pulling these statements out of thin air.  Maybe someplace a bit lower and a lot darker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tony: &#8220;Also, unlike every other PDA, you can only get the SDK if you sign up for an account with Apple. And unlike the other PDA’s there is no way to test your app without a iphone.&#8221;</p>
<p>You must work for Apple, since nobody else has access to the SDK yet, so nobody knows what it can and cannot do.</p>
<p>Either that or you&#8217;re just pulling these statements out of thin air.  Maybe someplace a bit lower and a lot darker.</p>
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		<title>By: Zimmie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zimmie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Kim Hendrikse: Strictly speaking, Raccoon just expires the VPN Security Associations whenever the phone&#039;s IP address changes.  This happens a lot, since the EDGE network changes your IP fairly frequently and the phone shuts down its WiFi radio when you put it to sleep.  By default, it will try to negotiate new SAs as soon as it can, but that isn&#039;t always feasible.

I know for a fact that the VPN will stay up without any traffic going over it at all as long as you keep the phone awake and tied to one address.  I&#039;ve got it connecting to a VPN-1 firewall at home  Before updating my phone to 1.1.3, I had it jailbroken and ran all kinds of network tests with the terminal.  I didn&#039;t find any traffic that was allowed over the VPN that didn&#039;t get sent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kim Hendrikse: Strictly speaking, Raccoon just expires the VPN Security Associations whenever the phone&#8217;s IP address changes.  This happens a lot, since the EDGE network changes your IP fairly frequently and the phone shuts down its WiFi radio when you put it to sleep.  By default, it will try to negotiate new SAs as soon as it can, but that isn&#8217;t always feasible.</p>
<p>I know for a fact that the VPN will stay up without any traffic going over it at all as long as you keep the phone awake and tied to one address.  I&#8217;ve got it connecting to a VPN-1 firewall at home  Before updating my phone to 1.1.3, I had it jailbroken and ran all kinds of network tests with the terminal.  I didn&#8217;t find any traffic that was allowed over the VPN that didn&#8217;t get sent.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Prentice</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/why-corporate-it-shouldnt-support-your-iphone/#comment-67866</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Prentice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you very much, Dian!  You have helped remind me that I don&#039;t want to ever work for such a fascist hive organization which requires all of its employees actions to be orchestrated second to second.  If a company indulges in such mind control, perhaps the 15 minute email synchronization limitations of the iPhone are a beacon of hope for its employed victims.  Articles such as this are fodder for the non-fiction epic, &quot;Slavery in the 21st Century.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much, Dian!  You have helped remind me that I don&#8217;t want to ever work for such a fascist hive organization which requires all of its employees actions to be orchestrated second to second.  If a company indulges in such mind control, perhaps the 15 minute email synchronization limitations of the iPhone are a beacon of hope for its employed victims.  Articles such as this are fodder for the non-fiction epic, &#8220;Slavery in the 21st Century.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 522Ind</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[522Ind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its the best phone I have ever had for use with my Biz... Yes self employed design type... but it is about time I have access to everything like you damn blackberry people do... the people complaining about it are PC people and there is nothing wrong with it but if you run your Biz off a mac then this is the phone to have...plain and simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its the best phone I have ever had for use with my Biz&#8230; Yes self employed design type&#8230; but it is about time I have access to everything like you damn blackberry people do&#8230; the people complaining about it are PC people and there is nothing wrong with it but if you run your Biz off a mac then this is the phone to have&#8230;plain and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Emenaker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Emenaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The IPhone was never meant to be a business app.  It&#039;s a consumer toy, not a business.  It has never been marketed at businesses, nor will it be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IPhone was never meant to be a business app.  It&#8217;s a consumer toy, not a business.  It has never been marketed at businesses, nor will it be.</p>
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