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	<title>Comments on: Web Working for Free: When We Should Do It and When We Shouldn&#039;t</title>
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		<title>By: Give Something Back: Online Volunteer Opportunities</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Give Something Back: Online Volunteer Opportunities]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 16:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Just remember that if you&#8217;re going to work with an organization on a specific project, such as redesigning its web site or setting up an online marketing campaign, treat them as you would your regular clients. Have a contract ready, make a list of deliverables, and define the project scope so that everything is clear to both parties. Also, be aware of the disadvantages that can come with working on projects for free. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Just remember that if you&#8217;re going to work with an organization on a specific project, such as redesigning its web site or setting up an online marketing campaign, treat them as you would your regular clients. Have a contract ready, make a list of deliverables, and define the project scope so that everything is clear to both parties. Also, be aware of the disadvantages that can come with working on projects for free. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A few links for the end of the week</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A few links for the end of the week]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] are a lot of opportunities to write (and work) for free on the Web. This article looks at when you should, and when you shouldn&#8217;t      Web, freelance, links, tips, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are a lot of opportunities to write (and work) for free on the Web. This article looks at when you should, and when you shouldn&#8217;t      Web, freelance, links, tips, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Saunders</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another thing that irks me about &quot;exposure.&quot; Those organizations that promise exposure typically have none to give. Publishing an op-ed in the New York Times provides exposure. Work published on www.notreadyforprimetime.com may never be seen by anyone!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing that irks me about &#8220;exposure.&#8221; Those organizations that promise exposure typically have none to give. Publishing an op-ed in the New York Times provides exposure. Work published on <a href="http://www.notreadyforprimetime.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.notreadyforprimetime.com</a> may never be seen by anyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/web-working-for-free-when-we-should-do-it-and-when-we-shouldnt/#comment-75043</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t do free web or print work unless there&#039;s something new that I&#039;d really like to learn from the experience, or I get a free or discounted service in return.

I&#039;ve even done work for non-profits that I really admired and took far too much abuse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t do free web or print work unless there&#8217;s something new that I&#8217;d really like to learn from the experience, or I get a free or discounted service in return.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve even done work for non-profits that I really admired and took far too much abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcin Grodzicki</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/web-working-for-free-when-we-should-do-it-and-when-we-shouldnt/#comment-75042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcin Grodzicki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, if you make something for free, especially if you are supporting a cause important for you, make sure you&#039;ll have enough time for it. It&#039;s really stressful if your &#039;free&#039; work gets in the way of &#039;paid&#039; work, as you have to make some difficult choices then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, if you make something for free, especially if you are supporting a cause important for you, make sure you&#8217;ll have enough time for it. It&#8217;s really stressful if your &#8216;free&#8217; work gets in the way of &#8216;paid&#8217; work, as you have to make some difficult choices then.</p>
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		<title>By: When do I work for free? &#8212; Battling It Solo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/web-working-for-free-when-we-should-do-it-and-when-we-shouldnt/#comment-75041</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[When do I work for free? &#8212; Battling It Solo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] other day WebWorkerDaily had a great list of arguments for and against working for free on projects, when you&#8217;re a web worker or perhaps even self-employed. And I just thought I wanted to add [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] other day WebWorkerDaily had a great list of arguments for and against working for free on projects, when you&#8217;re a web worker or perhaps even self-employed. And I just thought I wanted to add [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Staes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremiah Staes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 05:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have to agree with Tom - some folks have forgotten what time is worth.

I get those &quot;Exposure&quot; calls all the time, amazingly, from other established agencies who want interactive because they don&#039;t have the skills in-house and don&#039;t feel web people are &quot;worth more than minimum wage&quot;; and I always politely decline and highlight the fact that we are professionals whom for which this is our career and livelihood.

We learned a long time ago &quot;if-come&quot; work is a scam; and unless someone is willing to pay money for a project it&#039;s not worth anything to them and move on and don&#039;t waste your time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree with Tom &#8211; some folks have forgotten what time is worth.</p>
<p>I get those &#8220;Exposure&#8221; calls all the time, amazingly, from other established agencies who want interactive because they don&#8217;t have the skills in-house and don&#8217;t feel web people are &#8220;worth more than minimum wage&#8221;; and I always politely decline and highlight the fact that we are professionals whom for which this is our career and livelihood.</p>
<p>We learned a long time ago &#8220;if-come&#8221; work is a scam; and unless someone is willing to pay money for a project it&#8217;s not worth anything to them and move on and don&#8217;t waste your time.</p>
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		<title>By: Toni Marie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/web-working-for-free-when-we-should-do-it-and-when-we-shouldnt/#comment-75039</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toni Marie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh wow, do I get myself into this mess all the time! I love to do things for people and make them happy, and it always is more work than it&#039;s worth in &quot;exposure&quot;.  Lately we&#039;ve even used contracts and charged partial value of the work, but it doesn&#039;t seem to prevent the misunderstandings and the extra unpaid work.

My answer to some of the &quot;pro bono&quot; stuff taking up too much of your time is to fill out a contract valuing the time, and including the hours involved in the work, and then specifically saying &quot;in lieu of payment&quot; and saying we consider that a donation.

That way the number of hours and scope of work are clearly defined, as is the &quot;additional hours&quot; rate.  We still end up doing the extra work, but at least people know the value of what we&#039;re giving them for free and they appreciate it a bit more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow, do I get myself into this mess all the time! I love to do things for people and make them happy, and it always is more work than it&#8217;s worth in &#8220;exposure&#8221;.  Lately we&#8217;ve even used contracts and charged partial value of the work, but it doesn&#8217;t seem to prevent the misunderstandings and the extra unpaid work.</p>
<p>My answer to some of the &#8220;pro bono&#8221; stuff taking up too much of your time is to fill out a contract valuing the time, and including the hours involved in the work, and then specifically saying &#8220;in lieu of payment&#8221; and saying we consider that a donation.</p>
<p>That way the number of hours and scope of work are clearly defined, as is the &#8220;additional hours&#8221; rate.  We still end up doing the extra work, but at least people know the value of what we&#8217;re giving them for free and they appreciate it a bit more.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler/Copywriter Underground</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Chandler/Copywriter Underground]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a disturbing tendency on the Internet to expect creative folks (writers, musicians, artists, programmers, etc) to work for free, as if dangling the mere promise of &quot;exposure&quot; was enough (I tell my copywriter students you can&#039;t eat exposure).

It&#039;s part of a larger trend, where creatives work as sharecroppers on sites where they receive little, but those owning the sites (like Bebo, Facebook, etc) receive much.

As a copywriter with 23 years of experience, I&#039;m continually amazed by the number of emails I receive pitching &quot;free&quot; work in return for wholly nebulous returns - as if I owed somebody the content they need to make money.

Doing work for non-monetary compensation (free tuition is monetary compensation, BTW) almost never passes the sniff test, and I&#039;d suggest creatives pass on that kind of work unless their heart is in the job (advocacy, etc).

Even then, you have to be careful; I&#039;ve been involved in a handful of advocacy battles the past few years, and in most of the cases, I looked around the room at my &quot;colleagues&quot; in the battle, and all - save me - were being paid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a disturbing tendency on the Internet to expect creative folks (writers, musicians, artists, programmers, etc) to work for free, as if dangling the mere promise of &#8220;exposure&#8221; was enough (I tell my copywriter students you can&#8217;t eat exposure).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s part of a larger trend, where creatives work as sharecroppers on sites where they receive little, but those owning the sites (like Bebo, Facebook, etc) receive much.</p>
<p>As a copywriter with 23 years of experience, I&#8217;m continually amazed by the number of emails I receive pitching &#8220;free&#8221; work in return for wholly nebulous returns &#8211; as if I owed somebody the content they need to make money.</p>
<p>Doing work for non-monetary compensation (free tuition is monetary compensation, BTW) almost never passes the sniff test, and I&#8217;d suggest creatives pass on that kind of work unless their heart is in the job (advocacy, etc).</p>
<p>Even then, you have to be careful; I&#8217;ve been involved in a handful of advocacy battles the past few years, and in most of the cases, I looked around the room at my &#8220;colleagues&#8221; in the battle, and all &#8211; save me &#8211; were being paid.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Green</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Green]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I volunteer my web development and pc troubleshooting skills to my local volunteer fire department.  Since I&#039;m not about to go running into a burning building, it&#039;s the least I can do to help them out.  I never charge for any time spent, but they cover all of their costs.  (New computer, hosting, etc...)  It allows me to polish my skills, and it&#039;s my little way of participating in my community.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I volunteer my web development and pc troubleshooting skills to my local volunteer fire department.  Since I&#8217;m not about to go running into a burning building, it&#8217;s the least I can do to help them out.  I never charge for any time spent, but they cover all of their costs.  (New computer, hosting, etc&#8230;)  It allows me to polish my skills, and it&#8217;s my little way of participating in my community.</p>
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