What You Should Know Before you Switch from BlackBerry to iPhone

Last weekend, I was one of the 1 million who was crazy enough to wait on a 3 hour line to buy an iPhone 3G. Until last Thursday, I was quite content to be a BlackBerry user for the foreseeable future. I really liked my BlackBerry 8800. A lot.
So why the switch? Let’s face it…the iPhone 3G is a mighty fine web working smartphone.

As fantastic as the BlackBerry is for letting you connect to your office while you’re on the go, you have to have that office to connect to in the first place. I have a home office so I can telecommute to my Virginia-based job from New Jersey, but lately due to family demands I’ve been out of that office more than I’ve been in it. Next month I’m moving to a different part of New Jersey. The app store convinced me that I can lead a crazy web working life and still get done what needs to get done for my employers without keeping my laptop and its associated gear with me all the time.
Thinking about joining me in switching fruits from berry to apple? Here’s a quick look at what’s to love (and not-so-love) about being a new iPhone owner from the point of view of someone very used to the BlackBerry experience.
Note: this is based on features in BlackBerry OS 4.2. Some of the differences between the iPhone and BlackBerry may change as a new drastically updated BlackBerry OS is so close to shipping.
Reasons to love the iPhone (aside from the obviously superior browser and the whole iPod thing…that’s too easy):
SMS chat is more functional. On the BlackBerry, by default, SMS messages are mixed in with email messages. This makes it difficult to have a threaded conversation on the go. You can separate SMS from email, but it’s still an awkward interface because you can’t see the text message you’re replying to as you’re typing. Fine for sending one-off messages but more challenging for back-and-forth communications. On the iPhone, you can see the entire conversation on the same screen as you’re exchanging messages.
You can’t appreciate how helpful this is until you have your first SMS chat session with a colleague (or, in my case, my iPhone-carrying husband who was on a loud train) and the IM-like exchange allows for conversation, not just messages.
If this appeals to you, don’t forget to add AT&T’s unlimited text plan. It adds up quickly.
Update: After skimming through the many comments, I have to clarify what I was talking about here. Yes, I know that when you reply to a text message on the Blackberry you see all the previous messages from that contact. But, often on my BlackBerry I would be in the middle of replying to a text when another text from the same person came in. In order to see if the new message answered my question, I would have to go back to the message view, read the new message and then decide whether or not to go back to the draft I had started and continue it. On the iPhone, if you are in the middle of composing a reply and a new text comes in you see the view update, as it would in an IM conversation, without having to leave the screen to see new messages. Therefore, I find the BlackBerry just fine for quick text messages, but the iPhone is more conversational in that respect.
Audio options available for quick switches mid-call. This used to drive me crazy on the BlackBerry. I can’t count how many times I’d forget to either turn off my Bluetooth headset when it wasn’t on my ear or break the connection between the BlackBerry and the headset on the phone. A new call would come in, I’d answer it and realize that the audio was coming out of my headset which I then had to run for either in my purse or sitting near its charger because it took too long to tell the BlackBerry to send the sound through the device and not the headset.
On the iPhone, if you forget to break the pairing between the phone and the headset, you always have easy access to change the audio source. A simple click of a very visible button and the call audio can easily be rerouted.
Multiple calendar support. Right now, my Google account has 4 different calendars that I rely on. There’s a calendar for each of my 2 web working jobs, my personal only-I-care calendar and the calendar I share with my family. Even though Google has a wonderful utility for syncing multiple Google calendars with the single BlackBerry calendar, with a lot of events that interface bogs down quickly. The iPhone supports multiple calendars beautifully. True, the absence of a “week” view is troubling. The calendar also lacks support for event invites.
Bonus tip for Mac users: Check out Spanning Sync to sync Google calendars with iCal calendars. From there it’s an easy sync to the iPhone.
Multiple home pages.
Sure, BlackBerry has extensive theme support so you can change colors, icons, fonts and background images. The more icons you added to your BlackBerry home screen, the more you had to scroll, making it difficult to find exactly the application you want to launch.
I love the way the iPhone handles multiple home page views. Hold down on an icon until they get all wiggly, then drag & drop to organize. My first page is shown in the screen shot (which is also easier to generate on an iPhone 3G…just click both the home and power buttons at the same time).
This is my “productivity” view. I flip to this page when I’m thinking “strictly business” (okay, the camera is debatable). A quick flick and I’m looking at reference apps. Another flick and I’m looking at my social networking apps.
I also like the way you can delete a non-standard application directly from the wiggly edit view.
Maybe the switch wasn’t such a bright idea after all (aside from the obviously superior keyboard…that’s too easy):
Email. Email. Email. This is RIM’s bread & BlackBerry jam, and with good reason. If the main reason you have a BlackBerry is to check your email across multiple accounts (let’s say work & personal), don’t even think about switching. You will be disappointed. Apple fans will talk about Push and Exchange support. They may even talk about MobileMe as an acceptable substitute. Don’t listen to them. Email on the iPhone is something you only appreciate now and then, otherwise it’s something you tolerate.
Where to begin? For starters, iPhone applications launch at the same point you left them. Helpful if you’re reading a book. Not-so-helpful if you’ve finished reading a message in one account and now want to read unread mail in another account. You are constantly navigating back and forth to get back to the page that lists your email accounts.
There is no way to set multiple signatures. There is no way to select multiple unread messages and mark them read at the same time. I so miss the BlackBerry “Mark Prior Read” menu item. The contact application is painfully slow to the point of agony.
Typing luxury beyond the keyboard. Even with the tactile feedback of a hardware keyboard, the BlackBerry offers many features that make typing long text easier. On the iPhone, you can double tap the space bar to insert a period and capitalize the next letter, but it stops there. Long time BlackBerry users know you can also hold down on a letter to capitalize it and configure multiple dictionaries and shortcuts (so if you type a word or phrase often you can enter it into the dictionary to autocomplete). Someone please come up with a way to port TextExpander to the iPhone and you can name your price. I’ll gladly pay. Double.
Dialing shortcuts. I had a dialing shortcut for nearly every letter of the alphabet. Holding down “O” dialed my office in Virginia, I pushed “C” for my co-worker Carlea’s cell phone, “M” for my mother and so on. The iPhone lets you save numbers in the Phone’s “favorites.” Nowhere near the same thing. The iPhone is clearly a 2-handed device. I got pretty good at getting around my BlackBerry with one hand…don’t see that happening any time soon on the iPhone.
I will give the iPhone bonus points for including letters on the virtual keypad, so no more guessing which number you push for dial-by-name directories.
And while we’re talking about the phone application, how silly is it that you can’t listen to voicemail through a Bluetooth headset on the iPhone? Nevermind. Must have been a temporary audio glitch…I’ve had a few of those.
Magnetized sleep. After 1 minute (configurable) of inactivity, the iPhone screen locks down. The screen goes black and you have to do a deliberate slide to get the screen to respond. This also saves some precious battery power. You can also hit the button at the top of the device to instantly go this mode. You have to remember to hit this button or wait until the iPhone goes to sleep on its own before putting the iPhone in your purse or pocket. While it only responds to finger touch, I’ve found that I can press the wrong buttons in the act of putting it in my purse if I didn’t remember to sleep it first.
The BlackBerry has a magnet so with certain cases, including the one that comes with the device, merely the act of putting the BlackBerry away puts it to sleep. I liked that.
Superior battery management. Okay, this is probably unfair because I’m comparing a 3G device to a 2G (EDGE) device. We’ll see just how much longer a BlackBerry lasts when the 3G Bold is released later this summer. But regardless, the BlackBerry will always have better battery management simply because said battery can be removed. Afraid of losing juice? Just carry an extra battery. There are also tons of cheap 3rd party chargers available for the more standard mini-USB plug on the BlackBerry. As soon as an accessory is marked for the iPhone, especially the latest model, there’s a steeper price tag.
Are you also a BlackBerry Switcher? Any other tips & tricks to make the transition easier?
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come back over to the blackberry side. we’ll forgive you
how silly is it that you can’t listen to voicemail through a Bluetooth headset on the iPhone?
My iPhone plays voice mail through the headset. Hit the Audio button on the upper right of the voice mail screen to change the audio output.
Adam, seriously? That’s strange. I hit “Audio” and the only options I have (with the Bluetooth headset connected, of course) is through the iPhone or the speakers.
Judi,
Thank You!
I love my BB, but have been swayed by the iphone’s coolness. A million apps wouldn’t equal the BB’s email abilities, however- and you’re the first to actually deal with this and help us understand if it’s worth it.
I’ve got lots of cool gadgets- however, due to your honesty, I’m sticking with the ol’ reliable blackberry.
Dave
Voicemail plays through my Motorola bluetooth headset too.
Also, the calendar does support event invites. You can view invites by hitting the icon of the down arrow in the lower right corner of the calendar screen.
I listen to voicemail through a bluetooth headset on the iphone all the time… look for the audio button in the top right hand corner.
The typing does get much better. I came from the treo and had a hard time with the “soft keys” but now that I’ve adjusted to the keys and the predictive text (clicking the “x” on an incorrect word suggestion adds your word to the dictionary) I’m much faster on the iPhone.
For dialing shortcuts “Favorites” is as good as it gets… nowhere near as convenient as push-letter but I’ve adjusted.
Navigating the mail app doesn’t get any better, it’s always a pain to click 2 or 3 levels back & forth.
Oh well, neither is perfect. I know which one is more fun though …. for me anyway!
Nick, sorry wasn’t clear. While you can view invites, there is no way of sending an email with an event invitation attached. Nor (I think) the ability to accept an invite in a message received on the iPhone.
My headset is a Plantronics Explorer 330. Anyone else have this issue? Strange.
All of my email ends up in my Gmail account so I just use Gmail through the Safari browser. Sure, I don’t get notified when I get a new email but I used to get that with my BlackBerry and ended up disabling the notifications because they were far too frequent. I’ll check my email on my terms thanks. :)
Blackberry is the only way to go…..the rest are for kids.
Judi, the gang at SmileOnMyMac would also pay big money for TextExpander on the iPhone. ;-)
Unfortunately, the version of TextExpander that would be supported on the iPhone currently is not a version you’d find at all useful. We are keeping an eye on the capabilities of the iPhone, and hopefully, we can all get our wish as the iPhone evolves.
Since most of my work is in text, I have even done editing work on the BlackBerry in a crunch. The iPhone is tempting, but I don’t think it’s a replacement. Thanks for the confirmation.
“I will give the iPhone bonus points for including letters on the virtual keypad, so no more guessing which number you push for dial-by-name directories”
The BlackBerry does this as well. Simply hold ALT and type any letter when in the phone app and it will make the tone for that letter.
Can’t say the iPhone is cooler then the BOLD or Thunder, so stay tuned for those.
PS. for BlackBerry users that want a realy cool browser, checkout operamini.com from your BlackBerry, its amazing.
Does anyone have both? Just curious.
Judi,
I, too, can’t listen to voicemail over bluetooth any more. On my old iPhone (2G with version 1.0 operating system), I could hear voicemail on my many bluetooth ear devices just fine. But when I upgraded to the new iPhone 3G with version 2.0 software, I suddenly found myself listening to a silent Bluetooth earpiece when i played the first voicemail that i’d received.
So i think the non-BT voicemails may be a 2.0 software issue.
I actually still have my iPhone 2G. I had already upgraded it to the 2.0 software, but I never tried listening to a voicemail before I switched to the iPhone3G. When i have some time, i can try a VM on the old 2G phone and find out if my guess is correct.
victor, funny thing is I tried again earlier this evening and it worked fine. Then a few minutes later I had no sound at all and had to turn the iPhone on and off to get it back. Not the first time that has happened, for some reason it seems sound gets funky when you switch sources a lot (headphones, BT, speaker, etc.)
John, I agree with you about Opera Mini. Before turning off my BlackBerry for the last time I spent a lot of time in that browser. Still, it’s nowhere near Safari on the iPhone.
after reading your last post, i had to run to my car and check again (on iPhone 3G). But no luck; i still can’t get the audio sources popup screen to appear when i check voicemail. VMs always play through my iPhone’s earpiece. There’s only a “Speaker” button in the upper right corner of the screen where the old “Audio” button used to be (on iP 2G v2.0).
on the other hand, the audio sources screen always appears automatically for me when i make/receive regular calls while a BT device is connected.
hmmph!
Thanks for that Judi. I will stick with my 8800 and wait for the Bold or possibly the Thunder then.
don’t worry, the keyboard gets really easy with a couple weeks practise. I can type fairly fast with it, and if I set it down on the desk I can type faster than on a standard computer keyboard. It helps when you learn to trust the auto-correct, it’s the best one I’ve seen on any system, ever. One-handed handling comes faster than you might think as well. I typed this whole post one-handed.
Good luck!
Whatever happened to the good old days when you had to use your brains instead of a computer. No wonder we are turning into a generation of geeks.
its all about the dare
Whoever wrote this must have an outdated Blackberry, or bad cell phone provider, or just be technology illiterate.
With my BB Curve on At&t I can see SMS and email messages when replying. About the bluetooth, every phone has this problem. You just to have to remember to leave the bluetooth on, you have the same options mid-call has with any other phone to switch back and forth.
As far as the apps, the blackberry has been around alot longer and has just as many apps to do what you want. EMAIL will always be better on the blackberry. I won’t upgrade to 3G BB mainly because it will use more battery life.
Gosh can I be a reviewer. I have had my BB Curve for a month and I know more about this…
my iphone 3g is badass with all the sweet apps, way better than blackberry
im perfectly fine with my blackberry curve 8320. and btw not everyone has he money to buy a brand new 3g iphone and im not gonna waste my money on it so if you buying then ill gladly use it.
There’s an easy way to get your email from multiple accounts: forward each of them to a separate gmail account. I have a gmail account, a hotmail account, and a couple yahoo accounts. for the non-gmail accounts, forward them to a gmail account and then sync THOSE accounts to your iphone.
Android, people. Bide your time until then.
You need to come back to the blackberry, AT&T is about to release the blackberry bold. Many new features including wifi connection.
People will soon see that the Iphone is really nothing but a downgraded blackberry with a different look and everyone will want there money back once the Iphone is noticed for what it really is…
blackberry is so 90′s.. Ppl still use those annoying plastic keyboards?? Haha
My gf has a blackberry..ugh. Hard to use and old tech do not mix well.
It’s 2008, get an iPhone.
Have you seen rimm’s stock lately? They’re losing fast.
Iphone:
-25,000 developers
-complete operating system
-app store right on your phone
Blackberry:
-a few half-hearted developers
-flaky system
-no easy way to distribute apps
- HALF of it is a friggin keyboard!
Judi … Thanks for the information I almost switched to the iPhone. My decision was a big NO … pics, movies, music, videos, etc. I am sure are great for those casual users or those who work in an industry where they are a necessity. I love my BlackBerry for its dependability in place of my laptop for e-mails – with 5 addresses in constant use it is fabulous! Thanks again!
I’m able to get my gmail through my *first generation* iPhone mail application. In fact, I also check my business’s IMAP mail through it, as well as my .mac account. I check three different email accounts through my iPhone. It used to be 5 until I closed one account and forwarded my roadrunner POP3 mail through my Gmail account. I know the process is not and different for the 3G.
Being a Mac lover I did consider switching from BlackBerry to the iPhone, being swayed by the elegant Apple interface and the very cool design, which was superior to my horrible 8700 Series Blackberry.
But based on my experience with the e:mail system on the BlackberryI decided to stick around and stay with Blackberry. I have used it in Europe, South America, North America and China and it just gets me my e:mail.
I am in the press industry and have written articles and edited them on the fly with the Blackberry. The main drawback for the iPhone is the virtual keyboard-not good if your requirements are e:mail intensive like mine. Can´t beat a physical keyboard for typing in a speedy fashion.
So when the time came to renew, I got a new Blackberry Curve and I love it. It´s got a better reception/voice quality and besides it is just fine as an MP3 player.
Bottom line: if you use your e:mail a lot on the go, Blackberry just works.
Payola from Apple Computer
I just got a Blackberry 8330 on my Sprint account. Besides email it has voice dialing, fast evdo network speed, and turn-by-turn GPS navigation.
It the iphone cost more than a blackberry? The blackberry for sprint is $30 a month whats the iphone? Also, can you cancel the blackberry at anytime or are you stuck paying $30 for 2 years
You forgot to mention that fact that to switch to the IPhone, you have to switch to one of the worst networks (at least in the southeast) in the country in AT&T.
My husband runs his business from the house so email when he is on the road is very important. He to stood in line for an iPhone to replace his BB Pearl and is curently at AT&T returning the iPhone because he could send emails but wasn’t able to receive them. He called Apple for support and sat on hold for 1 hour each time on two different occasions and they never picked up the line.
He will be getting a BB Bold when it comes out instead.
In regards to SMS texting, the author is wrong. When you reply to a text the whole string shows up.
I’ve always been number 1 fan of all Apple…
Especially that I’ve been waiting for an iPhone since it was a rumor. I was so excited I told everybody I was gonna get one. But the one thing that got me to jump ship on the iPhone was a simple fix. I had to be dependent on an Apple rep to change my battery. That don’t fly with me at all, especially with identity theft in an upraise. I don’t know who is hire in retails these day. It will be my luck I handed over my iPhone, if I had one to a disgruntle employee. You hear this crap all over the news every day, about employee stealing company information for their own gain. It’s nothing new at all. It’s happening NOW as you read this. Big issue here as well is you can not walk in with battery problems, you must make an appointment with an Apple Genius. Which adds even more DOWN time of you cell phone use. What next I have to go to Athletic Footwear to have them tie my sneakers, cause I bought it from their store?????? Please! Find another SUCKER! At least with an LG Dare your guaranty ZERO down time if you ever had battery issues. Because you can change it your self. The way it is suppose to be in life… In NYC it’s THE LAW to use hand free dialing. So I use voice dialing like ten thousand times a day. I been using voice dialing for 22 years on so many CHEAP FREE phone. Hmm.. Why should anyone be looking toward the App Store to get sh*t it should already have in it? Shouldn’t the App Store be for innovative Apps? Voice Dialing isn’t innovative and shouldn’t be in the App Store. It’s like offering a phone with out a dialing capability, so now you will have to go to the App Store to download a dailing App to make Calls. Hello! It is 2008 isn’
On the BlackBerry that is……….
I disagree with everyone on this thing…the ultimate best phone is the Blackjack II! I love this phone and wouldn’t trade it for the dumb iPhone or the Blackberry..forget it people!!
I cant believe Americans are buying this junk.
Why not just buy a HTC Diamond or a Nokia N96 that spank an iPhone in every specification and make it look like its made by Playskool.
Honestly who really has time to distinguish between two totally different phones. Enough said.
yo preiero iphone es mejor me gusta mas pero blackberry la verdad ke es tambien buena pero el iphone trae mas programa y tambien para descargar.. para escuchar musica es mejor ..mas comodo y al ser tactil , tener una gran pantalla sin botones, fino y facil de manejar me parece ke apple (iphone) gana a blackberry.
Judi,
I give you kudos for changing and sticking to the iphone, i couldn’t, i changed, but came back quickly…
I guess i wanted to try the new
iphone… I can’t wait until the BB
Bold comes out… Whoever brings it
out first gets my contract :)
Apple is pretty smart – they did a load balancing test on 1 million users dime plus not to mention all the existing iphone users. Those apple iphone people didn’t hesitate to particpate for a fee. If thats what I want to pay for I think I’ll stick with a BB.
ur article is right on. i have both (not the 3G) a bb and iphone, and i can’t wait till the new bbcomes out later on this year. i think after a while i’m gonna give my iphone to my kids. i still like the BB
By saying it has “a better reception/voice quality and besides it is just fine as an MP3 player”, I am comparing it to my old Blackberry 8700 Series, not the iPhone.
Who Paid you?
Blackberry obviously was a bad choice and good you found a whole day to spend from your time to stand in the line for a phone. I’ve got Palm OS for almost a year now and it can do all your new iPhone can and even more. So what’s the big fuzz? People, you need to do your research before buying things and standing in long lines. Apple is a little behind with its technology and just by advertising big and loud they are getting tremendeous amount of public to believe that they did it. No, somebody else already have done it. Way before.
I’m gonn’a wait till the Iphone at least upgrades to a vid cam.My v3xx does just as much if not more than the Iphone.Maybe I’ll wait till Apple intro’s the IPhone 10.0..:-)
presently how much is the iphone for
wait for the BLACKBERRY THUNDER to come out guys
i have a blackberry and a hack ipod touch..so i have a little of both worlds, they both got there up and downs..
Erik please!
“Iphone:
-25,000 developers
-complete operating system
-app store right on your phone
Blackberry:
-a few half-hearted developers??????
-flaky system????????
-no easy way to distribute apps???????
- HALF of it is a friggin keyboard!??????
do your homework son, spend some time on RIM’s web site to better understand verticle applications available.
Don’t get me wrong the i-phone is a cool device, it’s just not a serious tool for the mobile workforce…not to mention the fact you stuck with ATT’s 3G network which has a small footpint at best.
It’s very clever how you compare the 3g iphone to the blackberry 8800, its a good thing you didnt compare it to the blackberry bold which also runs on the 3g network. yes the iphone can do great things, but all in all its a toy, its something of a status symbol. its says “i now this is $400 , dont worry, i have that kind of money”, while blackberrys are professional and to the point. you want a toy, but a transformer, you want a serious quality phone, buy a blackberry. next time you write an article like this, try and do some research and not mislead people
The true Gold Standard for smartphones is the Palm Treo.
Both BlackBerry and iPhone have not caught up to the Treo.
3G, GPS, video record, and many other standard features on the Treo, that iPhone annd BlackBerry haven’t gotten to yet.
Did Imention that load balance test at $400 a pop?
I’ll go back to a traditional land-line before I give up my Blackberry. In other words, “I’ll give it up when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers”.
IPHONE kicks every phone butt
the i-phone and the blackberry are both great
I would love it if someone could help me. My blackberry is the worst phone I’ve ever seen! Every time some calls you have to push like 4 buttons open all these envelopes drive’s me crazy and You can’t change the alerts to sound different from voice mails and tex and the worst of all 20 call call log what a joke!!!!
V
Email is beautiful on the iphone…to read that is. I would say – if you often type long emails on your BB – keep it. Everything else is better on the iphone (except the battery life).
What do you mean you can’t see what text your replying to on your blackberry, every blackberry I’ve ever seen has the text your replying to directly below the text message your typing?
Had the IPHONE 3g for 10 mins and went back to my awesome trusty 8830 Blackberry and that’s all there is to say, PERIOD.
yeah i agree with most of the article but regarding the homescreen, the blackberry you can make seperate folders to organize your tools and apps, your dont have to have all your icons floating on the main homescreen. but regardless, im another blackberry user that made the switch and have no regrets, iphone smokes the blackberry.
Okay I’ve got the BB Pearl 8100 and I still wouldn’t switch to the iPhone. It’s all about what you need. BB does what I need and more. IPhone just doesn’t get the job done for me.
although i love the i-phone …well..because of everything even the price
I own neither and am planning to get either the BB or iphone 3G and have found all the comments helpful in making my decision. Thanks guys.
And by the way, Lucy what do sugar daddies have to do with any of this?
Is there a way to view power point and wmv attachments with emails in the iphone. Is this available in BB?
i love both of them but the i-phone is so great
I have had my IPhone since it came out last year and also have a Pearl. I didn’t upgrade my IPhone this year because I am waiting for the Bold. I love my Pearl because of the MMS feature and I miss it on my IPhone, but the IPhone has some really nice apps now, that I am able to use. Bottom line I love the both.
yeah all yous blow…the helio ocean has both these guys beat. dont call it a phone..really!
What is this guy talking about?
He’s probably never sent an SMS in his life because when sending an SMS, the WHOLE conversation shows up while your replying to the person your talking to.
And he’s dissing BlackBerrys, learn the phone then start talking… I would take the Blackberry over the Iphone anyday, and AT&T doesnt even compare to Verizon, AT&T is probably the worst of all Phone companies
i dont really like all these new gadgets out there, but i had upgrade to a T Mobile Dash, is like a blackberry from a regular cell phone reason is that i text alot now,to get in touch with my daughter thats all she does, u know teenagers. when i was textin and messengin with the old cell it was hard on my fingers, now i have a full board, is a cinch…. now with the Iphone and others i wont get it cause it has not use for me….
My fiancee tried the new iPhone, but with long fingernails this is not for her. She still loves her BB Curve 8320! iPhone looks amazing but Blackberry is definitely AWESOME!!
Apple will have to pry my Blackberry 8800 out of my cold dead hands! :-)
i work for att, i have used both the iphone 2/3g and most of the blackberry’s. after much deliberation the iphone beats the bbys handily. Not just the web browser, and the chat style chat, but also the fact that you can now get all your contacts off the phone with out using outlook or having the numbers transfered at stores. Now your truly free to use the sim like it was originally intended.
“I will give the iPhone bonus points for including letters on the virtual keypad, so no more guessing which number you push for dial-by-name directories.”
Blackberry OS includes this too, press the alt key and spell out the ‘dial-by-name’ directory.
I think the iPhone 3G is overated. The main reason everyone wants it is because it is new technology. Personally, I think the touch screen keyboard is too hard to use. At least make a stylus for the thing!
LET’S GO BLACKBERRY!!!
I’ve had my Blackberry Curve for a little under a year. I used to hear all the time about the power of the “Crackberry” and thought it was a joke. It is not because I LOVE MY BB. I had wanted to get an IPOD touch just for the mp3 quality but once I got a 4 gig media card…it was all over. My cousing has an IPhone and wants to sell it for a BB. After seeing what he goes through to receive email, etc.. I agree with the person who wrote that “everything else is for kids”.
Suckers! Treo still rocks!
does the new i-phone stream music?
if yes, can it stream through the ear piece?
Any article that compares Blackberry to any other cell phone cannot be taken seriously unless enterprise security is discussed. Corporate IT departments insist on the security features and capabilities of Blackberry. If you are a business user, there is no substitute for Blackberry.
I currently own the Curve 8310 and don’t know how I ever got along without it. Having to check multiple email accounts is oh so easy with this phone – it’s almost like having a pocket PC that just happens to make phone calls. Besides, my Curve plays music as well, so you can keep your iPhone – I’ll pass…..
keyboard, removable memory, removable battery, interface with windows and email, cheaper accessories, and programs.. blackberry or bust. touchscreen is the worst thing to have on a phone. you have to stare at it for everything you do. even after you memorize what you need to do to get to something, you still need to look at the screen. not to mention, i hate apple.
Don’t plan on using your iPhone in Vermont, Northern New Hampshire and parts of North Eastern New York. AT&T does not do business there and the cross company agreements with other carriers specify that area as not covered (the terrain makes it very expensive to operate there). Blackberries, due to Verizons dominance in the region are ususally OK.
i love my blackberry and i wouldnt trade it for anything
yes, pandora.com
iPhone won’t notify you of new email? What are the chances an app store download can eventually solve this..?
I could not agree with you more about the email – what a disappointment. There will be long periods of time when I do not receive email and then, boom!, I will get a slew of it. My laptop, when connected to the net via WiFi, contiues to receive mail on a regular basis as it polls.
Further, and I am not sure if it is because ATTW or Apple are still experiencing technical glitches or if it is beasue MobileMe is just plain bad, but after years of being accustomed to having my BB calendar mirror my PC calendar, my iPhone calendar now doesn’t. ARGH!
Finally, battery consumption is through the roof! I need to recharge at midday to make it to the end of the workday day – granted I am a heavy user.
It indeed is a cool phone, so I am going to be patient and see email and calendar synch improve over the next few weeks.
i wouldnt be so quick to move on to the iphone just yet……have to give the upcoming bb thunder a test first…..we will see in the end which prevails…
yes it does, you have to set the the time to check it, like every other pda
If you switch to iphone…do you get iphoneSyndrome? I am still recovering from my CrackBerry Syndrome oh God the horror!!!!
The iPhone is the wave of the future and there is little doubt about that fact. Someone once said “It’s the software, stupid” and they were right. The beauty of the iPhone is that with a few developers and some imagination, all the stated shortcomings can be overcome. But, it’s the screen that’s the iPhone’s pride and joy. As an iPod, a web browser, or a phone… without taking up any real estate for just one of those functions. The touch screen of the iPhone takes about one week to really get a handle and fly on it. The Blackberry had a nice run, but with the 3G, the BB looks like something out of 1999.
Iphone blows, BB does everything the Iphone does, better! I had the Iphone and it wasnt worth the time to take out of the box. Much less the worthless hype it has generated and the ridiculous amount of time standing in line to get it. Blackberry users your not missing a thing, DONT SWITCH- you’ll wish you hadnt!
I HAVE AN IDEA WHO CARES ABOUT THE IPHONE OR THE BLACKBERRY. STOP BEING STUPID WASTING MONEY ON MATERIAL OBJECTS. ONLY IN AMERICA WOULD PEOPLE ARGUE OVER THIS.
BTW —- HELIO OCEAN BLOWS WORSE THAN THE IPHONE! DONT MAKE ME LAUGH!
I have/had a blackberry and i got the iphone and i love my iphone!!! i like it better because it is a touch screen.
Do not put a blackberry on prepaid its takes $5.00 a day
I got the first iPhone version when it came out last year and have never looked back. I haven’t decided if I want to part with my aluminum-backed baby yet, even for 3G and gps. But it goes beyond fondness – I wouldn’t be without my phone now. I love how its features are not only stylish but intuitive and simple. I never had to pour over the manual to figure out how to use the applications. My roommate has a Blackberry for work, and while it may be a good solid work horse, with a better speaker, it drives me crazy. It just feels clunky and complicated by comparison.
Vaughn you wouldnt even be on this site if it didnt matter to you, much less make a comment. Bugger off!
Isn’t iPhone’s web-interface better than just about any other mobile device?
His email issues are not an Apple problem, it’s an AT&T problem. I don’t call RIM when my blackberry email doesn’t work, I call my provider, Alltel…
I’m slowly migrating from a BB Pearl to the iPhone…the email differences certainly take some getting used to. And the lag time when going to contacts in the iPhone needs to be corrected ASAP…it’s a PITA!
Bee, did spammers like Sugar Daddies start posting on this comment section? Can we report abuse?
This is about the iPhone and Blackberry, nobody likes spam!
Thirteen reasons to doubt the iPhone hype
Posted by Tim Moynihan 290 commentsThe honeymoon is over for the iPhone.
It’s not that we’re sick of it already (well, maybe a bit), it’s just time for it to answer some questions. Otherwise, it may join the Sony PS3 in the realm of “tech that looks absolutely amazing but is far too expensive for most people to even consider buying.”
Apple’s iPhone: A mystery wrapped in an enigma
smothered in question-mark sauce.
Here, accompanied by rambling speculation, are those questions:
1. Why no 3G compatibility? The answer might be as simple as the fact that Cingular’s 3G coverage still has gaping holes outside of major U.S. cities.
The 3G question is very pertinent to those who want to stream video and audio to their phone at any time. But that requires living in an area with great 3G network coverage, and 3G will drain a battery faster than the 2.5G EDGE network.
2. Does the lack of 3G matter if the iPhone has Wi-Fi? If the user wants to only occasionally stream media or download files, the iPhone’s Wi-Fi capabilities should scratch that itch…but only if you’re at a Wi-Fi hot spot and not using it in the backseat of a car, on the train, or sitting on a park bench. And Wi-Fi will have just as much–probably more–of a draining effect on the iPhone’s battery.
3. What’s under the hood? Nobody knows for sure. According to this Information Week article, the iPhone is likely have a Samsung CPU and video processor.
If it’s true, this may help explain the similarity in specs between the Samsung BlackJack and the Apple iPhone. For what it’s worth, the BlackJack performed very well in our Web browsing and video tests.
4. Can you download directly from iTunes? This looks to be a big disappointment with the iPhone. Early reports, such as this iTWire interview with Apple’s VP of iPod Products Greg Joswiak, say no.
From the iTWire article:
The Apple VP also quashed any speculation that the iPhone itself may house a self-contained version of iTunes. “iTunes was designed to exist on the Mac and PCs. That’s where the music should live.”
Don’t tell me where my music should and should not live, homeboy! I want it to live on my iPhone!
Regardless of where my music wants to live, if Apple is touting the iPhone as a device that runs Mac OS X, doesn’t that make the iPhone a Mac? Which brings us to the next question…
5. Just what does Apple mean by “it runs OS X”? And what do they mean by “multitasking”? During his keynote address, Steve Jobs mentioned the ability to multitask as one of Mac OS X’s strong suits, as well as a reason why the operating system was chosen for the iPhone.
Given the lack of 3G compatibility, that “multitasking” must be limited to applications within Mac OS X, not “multitasking” in the sense of being able to download a file while talking on the phone. That’s the kind of “multitask” that 3G networks are built to do.
Which begs the question: Who will really multitask between OS X applications on a mobile, touch screen device? At what point will anyone be simultaneously typing a document, formulating a spreadsheet, and composing a song on GarageBand on the iPhone?
Playing media content while surfing the Web is technically multitasking, but it’s possible that the iPhone will only be able to perform one of its three main functions at any given time: It’s either an iPod, an “Internet device,” or a phone, but it may not be able to do more than one function at a time.
That doesn’t sound like a big deal right now, but it could lead to an embarrassing situation if you’re using your iPhone as a jukebox at a party when a call comes in.
In all probability, the iPhone will run a watered-down version of OS X, with built-in restrictions on how the operating system can be used. No full iTunes. Probably no Skype or VoIP phone calls. It may be able to run “desktop-class applications and software,” as Apple’s iPhone site purports, but that’s not the same thing as actual desktop applications.
6. Will it actually be called the iPhone?
Not if Cisco has anything to say about it.
Will it be the iPhod? The iCell? The iThing? The iCaramba?
And will the iPhone have the same appeal with a different name? It might. After all, the name “iPod” doesn’t exactly scream “music!”
7. Who’s this phone for, anyway? Who can afford this thing?
This answer is simple: Paris Hilton.
The iPhone looks to be the next glamour phone, albeit one with serious potential. It’s billed as a “smart phone,” which brings to mind business users. At $599 for the 8GB model and $499 for the 4GB model, it’s definitely priced for business users.
Iphone vs BB. uhm… having a pimped up, cheek magnet car vs a stable, business minded, global vehicle like BMW or Benz or range rover. Each phone is designed for a specific market and specific purpose. Iphone is for entertainment and BB is for business savy ppl. I have my Iphone and let me kids play with it or take to clubs and i use my 8320 BB and soon Bold for social and business events where i can network and get things done on the fly.
(1) To compare battery life to your old Blackberry, just turn-off the 3G feature (it is under settings) on the iPhone. I think you’ll find the iPhone outlasts the Blackberry in that mode (all the comparative tests I’ve seen show that is does). As far as 3 G mode, one of the PC labs tested the iPhone against all the other leading 3G phones, and iPhone bested them all, most by a sizable amount.
(2) I think you are being unfair on the typing comparison. Think back to how agonizing it was to type on the Blackberry when you 1st started typing on it, and how long it took to get proficient on that tiny little, eccentric keyboard. Compare your typing impressions after your first 2 days with the Blackberry with those with the iPhone, or wait a couple of years (OK, a week), before making a conclusion. The heavy BlackBerry/Treo typing users who reviewed the iPhone when it 1st came out all seemed to say the same thing, “After the first 2 days I was ready to throw the iPhone out the window, but by the 5th day I swore I would never go back to the old way.” Your mileage may vary, but you can not have had the 3G phone long enough to make a fair comparison. ( I just gave up on trying to type anything longer than a word on my former smartphone, and not until I got an IPhone did I really start using a phone for Email and note taking. I admire all those Blackberry users who stuck with it, and stuck with it, and stuck with it, long enough to become typing proficient on a demented, diminutive keyboard, but if that is the price you have to pay to compose E-Mails on your phone, I think most people will pass and go for the iPhone. I know in two minutes I could type faster on the iPhone than I ever could after 2 years of using a Treo.)
Judi, interesting comparison. I also considered an iPhone over my existing Blackberry Pearl. Voice recognition is the most important feature for me. It allows me to call without putting my glasses on, and more importantly, make hands-free calls from my car using my vehicle’s built-in Bluetooth connectivity. Works perfectly. Shame an advanced phone like the iPhone missed a key feature.
I have both devices. I have the 8830 World Edition (work) and pre-3G iPhone 8Gb hacked,jailbroken, and loaded with cool apps (possible work replacement). To keep it simple, I come down on the IPhone side if I was to only have one device. They both have issues where it counts, and that is what really phreaked me out when Apple released their latest shortcoming: really thought they would finish it off strong. Best thing about the BB is “push” email, which is better for obvious reasons. People can say, “I’ll check my email on my own terms” and I wish I could too, but if a server is down, I need to be informed NOW. Outside of that, I think the iPhone is sleek and has a very very functional frontend. Love the thing. I do have fairly large paws so I’m probably more able to use it one-handed when needed. Outside of that the unit does it all. The iPhone sounds better than the BB as a handheld phone and browsing is far superior. Neither replaces a laptop.
I had the chance one day to finally upgrade to an Iphone. I bought it and within a day sold it to someone else. Blackberrys have been around forever but once i saw how wicked and easy evrything was to use i became instant addict.
Now my buddy has the curve and i feel like replacing my 8820 with the curve. Technology is muhhh
VISUAL VOICEMAIL!! enough said!! im sure even the business clients that use blackberries are jelous of this feature!
If you’ve only had the iPhone for a few days, of course you’ll think that the keyboard isn’t convenient, that you can’t use it with one hand, that having to slide to get to the screen is an inconvenience, amongst other things. Like any phone it just takes getting used to. When iPhone first came on the market I was one of the first to get one and it was a change, but I caught on quick and absolutely love it now. I think that the keyboard on the Blackberry is a little antiquated. I’ve been a mac user for a few years now and will continue to be one for a very long time. It’s time to step into the 21st century.
I have been a blackberry user for 3 years up until last year when the iPhone came out. Honestly, I was INCREDIBLY impressed with the blackberry. I absolutely loved the phone and how it worked.
But after sometime I just had to try the new “fruit”.
The iPhone is a incredible phone. Everything about it is just perfect for me. I have used every single default application so much. Being a blackberry user for so long, I just never knew a phone like the iPhone would compare!
But hey, change can be good right?
P.S. The App. Store quality is pretty poor. I’ve been downloading applications and the more I have, the slower my phone gets. I hope Apple works on that!
When is the iphone coming out for verizon??!!! I have been patiently waiting while I still have another year on my contract! Has anybody here had success getting verizon to waive their early cancellation penalty??? In the mean time, I will continue to wait patiently in hopes that by the time my contract with verizon is up, the most kick ass iphone will be available!
I am a Sales Executive for a Fortune 100 company. I used to have Blackberry and thankfully work for a forward thinking company that allows and supports the iPhone. As a traveling mobile power user, I much prefer the iPhone. It is a major productivity tool and FUN to use. With the already wide range of applications available on iPhone, such as salesforce.com, I am even more productive as I don’t have to fire up my laptop as often, especially with the amazing browsing experience. Battery life is very good and charges quickly, I find that the built-in battery really doesn’t matter as I get a full day use and recharge at night or on the plane. And I never actually swapped out the battery on my Blackberry, it is just a non-issue!
I used a Blackberry for years and thought it couldn’t get any better, but the iPhone is the best, most well rounded professional mobile platform available. Change is uncomfortable for most people and I was certainly reluctant when the iPhone first came out, but the risk of this change has paid off huge! Just my two cents….
My workplace, plus God know how many others, dont support the iPhone. Security concerns kill the iPhone in that regaurd. Until there’s an iphone enterprise server that businesses are drawn to have, appple phones will stay right where their computers are…..outside of businesses.
well, unless your in the graphics field.
But whose 21st century is it Apple or Microsoft or will there a be an up and coming player as always.
I have the iphone and enjoy it very much. However I never had a BB so. I will say this though:
If you have to switch from Verizon to AT&T your “phone” will be worthless. The ATT network reception is more terrible than any phone I have had in the last 10 years! I thought dropped and spotty calls were over. I was wrong.
I would guess that if you need a reliable get-it-done business like device. BB
If you have less responsibility and so can lean toward the fun side, iPhone.
Still I wouldn’t have switched if I had known ATT was apparently operating off of one cell tower somewhere under water. :/
Does anyone have a Mogul? and how does it compare to the BB or Iphone?
And then there are those of us who are just so terribly old-fashioned, we still use our cell phones as…
Telephones.
Who’d have thought? A cheap little Nokia fits all my needs.
BLACKBERRY!!! I love you so… Never will I do the wretched iPhone!! Supposed to be lyrical, but I’m not that good. I will love my blackberry till they pry it from my cold, dead hand…
So Verizon didn’t want to deal with the headache for 5 yrs whats that telling you all.
The only reason to own a Blackberry is for its email capabilities. Why would you want to lose that functionality?
Being in the car audio industry, I can tell you, the pairing of the Bluetooth from iPhones has always had issues.
If you look up the new Blackberry Thunder (codename) on yahoo or google it looks like an iPhone is a 3G device and it is exclusive for verizon unless they can’t sell enough.
Agreed that iPhone is MUCH sexier than BlackBerry, but clearly yours was different than mine. I can see SMS messages when I reply. If you use the alt key when dialing by name (hold down alt and spell someone’s name on the keyboard and the phone automatically makes the appropriate tone…much better than figuring out the number for the corresponding letter). Lastly, a simple click of the trackball on my 8800 allows me to switch to either the speakerphone or handset from my Bluetooth headset.
Apple’s interfaces are quite likely more intuitive (one of Apple’s huge strengths), but let’s give credit where credit is due!
Judy,
After reading your review and the comments I have decided to stick to the blackberry 8800. At first I was ready to shitcan this unit as it had issues. But after a screen died on me I got a free exchange and no longer have those issues. Plus I love the downloads for Google Maps and email along with Yahoo and email icons as well. Messenging is one blur but I am waiting for the next generation. Besides IPHONE lovers great that you love your phone. You should you paid a crap load of money for it.
anyone tryin to get rid of their old iphone for cheap?
The Sprint Instinct is better then both the Iphone and the Blackberry. Talk about that people. HA HA!
almost forgot!! Blackberry is working on matching the iphones abilities….before businesses get intrested in Iphone ent. servers.
So Apples will stay in the hands of kids with funny hair, not suits
well, unless your in the graphics field
Judi, While true you cannot send an invite from the calendar app, you absolutely CAN accept invites received via email.
You can “accept” “maybe” or “decline” invites.
While I think your review was somewhat fair, it always amazes me how some Blackberry owners are so quick to toss the iphone or Apple under the bus. Not you… but many of your commenters. Nick @ 6:45pm on 7/15 clearly has iphone envy and because he doesn’t understand what iPhone represents or cannot afford one so he chooses to be negative a crap all over the iPhone. Its certainly NOT a downgraded Blackberry. There is not a single device that will rise to the occasion to meet every wish/need people may have. iPhone represents so much more than any smartphone on the planet could offer. While some features could be implemented bette… due to its design, all thats needed is a software update and the features can be easily added. Unlike most other smartphones which are limited by their physical button interface the iPhone represents a huge paradigm shift in functionality, form, usability, and upgradability that simply does not exist elsewhere.
Anyone that poo poo’s the iPhone keyboard does not understand how well it truly works. I type LONG emails daily and fly on its interface. You need to learn to trust the software, its predictive text and auto correct are amazing. Give it a few days of rigorous use and you will find that its a much faster keyboard. I have used both Blackberrys and Treos and have never been able to type as fast as I can on an iPhone.
Just want to say that I gave my BB to my son when I purchased an Iphone. But I didn’t like the Iphone so therefore I went and purchase me another BB 8110 and I must say I love my BB. The only thing I like about the Iphone is the touchscreen. My husband loves his Iphone just becuz of that feature but that was not enough for me to keep mine. So I am back in the BB family and that is where I plan to stay.
the best iPhone 3G…
I stay with QWERTY keyboard, thank you. BlackBerry or Nokia E71 are good to do sms or email.
I stay away from iPhone because according to Erick after:
iPhone
-25,000 developers
-complete operating system
-app store right on your phone
They still could not figure out how to forward SMS? Silly, just plain silly.
iPhone is so 80′s, BB and Nokia is so futuristic….
You can separate SMS from email, but it’s still an awkward interface because you can’t see the text message you’re replying to as you’re typing. Fine for sending one-off messages but more challenging for back-and-forth communications.
I have the 8320 and my SMS conversations work just like an iPhone. The previous messages are on the bottom as I reply to the sender.
You are wrong about the Blackberry SMS chat sessions. I had a T-mobile supervisor (Ashley) set it up for me, and it works beautifully. The SMS messages are truly separate, and you can see the entire conversation as you respond. That was the only thing I didn’t like about the Blackberry Curve when I bought it, but Ashley fixed it for me….now I am one happy camper:) Other techies said it couldn’t be done…but, she did it!
“On the BlackBerry, by default, SMS messages are mixed in with email messages.”
I own a BB pearl and you can seperate the sms messages from the emails.
iPODs & iPHONEs, MACs attempt to get people to downgrade to their crappy computers. iPHONEs are overpriced junk that try to cram too much into the phone just to justify their high prices. iPODs cause eye strain from people staring too long at a postage stamp sized screen.
MACs claim to be the better machines. Easy to use and virus free. The truth is, people still target MACs with viruses, but, there isn’t as many viruses created for MACs because they aren’t used by the masses. Why? Because they don’t have programs most people want to use. And when you want to use a program for a MAC, don’t expect to need just one program.
EG – To convert a M4A or M4B (iPOD file) to an MP3, you need a program like TuneBite, but TuneBite won’t work without iTUNES and iTUNES needs QUICK TIME to work. 3 programs to do 1 simple conversion. Does it sound like MACs are trying to be simple to use?
MAC really needs to start putting out a good product at an affordable price if they want to attract more of the buying public. Instead of releasing junk to try to keep selling their junky MAC computers.
and it’s still in the conversation format.
i think that the iPhone is much better than the blackberry cuz I have the iPhone and it is amazing. i think it is the best phone in the whole world. for people looking for the phone that is just right for them, they should buy the iPhone because of how cool it is with its applications and how it is TOUCH SCREEN. Who doesn’t want a phone like that. plus the iPhone 3G is way better than the first!
What is the best phone for having a great contact list with profiles/pictures and other information of people I know instead of just a name and phone number?
The Iphone does not hold a candle against my BB Curve.BB distinguishes yahoo,gmail and BB mail.BB also distinguishes different chat clients——yahoo, gmail and BB.And not to mention built-in GPS.The price difference for what you get is also a factor.Plus the BB is more durable,and no screen to scratch after extensive use—unlike the iphone.Oh, did I mention texting is a snap???
I’ve still got the iPhone v1.0 (upgrading to 3G soon) and I use my phone for email all the time. Heck, I get most of my email on my phone first because I’m always on the go. I’ve never had a phone that has been so reliable or helped me get so much work done in such short periods of time. I know the BB is cool – I hated it when it first came out; it was an ugly thing – but the interface of the iPhone is so intuitive that it’s nearly fool proof. I know. I’m just the fool to prove it.
The web browsing experience on the Iphone is unparalleled, no doubt about it. But for anyone who uses their smartphone for work as well as leisure, Blackberries still reign supreme. The Iphone is almost more of a toy, while the Blackberry is more utilitarian, in my book. Some people prefer having the big screen, and don’t like half the phone being taken up by a keyboard. I prefer having an easy-to-work-with keyboard rather than having your face and hands smudge the face of the entire phone. And all the drawbacks that were mentioned in the review, either don’t bother me or I’ve found work-arounds for all of them. The clincher for me is the horrible network you’re stuck with if you buy the Iphone. AT&T? Meh.
Proud owner of a Blackberry 8320. I’ve had it for about a year after swithching from an 8707v (Vodafone)Boyfriend had an iphone, whats the big deal?
Wait until you need a new battery or the phone needs repair, then you will know which phone is better. I have used nokia, htc, BB, samsung, motorola.
While Iphone sounds good right now only time and a track record will tell.
Is the iphone cost more than a blackberry? The blackberry for sprint is $30 a month whats the iphone? Also, can you cancel the blackberry at anytime or are you stuck paying $30 for 2 years
FWIW, I love my Blackberry and don’t ever envision changing. The best thing about BB is the PIN function.
The author stated, “I will give the iPhone bonus points for including letters on the virtual keypad, so no more guessing which number you push for dial-by-name directories.”
If you are on a BB call and need to dial letters, press the alt button and dial the letters on your keyboard and it will translate it for you. It’s a great shortcut.
Daniel, there is an iPhone Enterprise server that business are drawn to. Its called Microsoft Exchange, and guess what, businesses already have it and the iPhone supports it. You should certainly check the Enterprise support of iPhone 2.0 software, your general statements are saying iPhone is not a good citizen on a corporate network are no longer true. Here is what the update brings:
Activesync support
Push email, calendar, contacts
Cisco IPsec VPN
Wireless network services with WPA2
P.S. Since Apple released the 2.0 Beta, there was something like 70% of the Fortune 100 testing it. My employer is one of them. My company also likes the fact that they can develop mobile apps for the iPhone, apps which generate revenue and that development platform is not even close to what it is on the iPhone.
I love all your reviews and comments about the iPhone but for non-continental US areas like where I live, it’s pretty hard to decide on an iPhone or a Blackberry.
Ever since I saw the iPhone 3G on the ads, I’ve always wanted one, but the fact that it needs a two year contract with AT&T keeps me from getting one. ONE: This small island of Guam does not have AT&T.
I don’t know, but if I can purchase an iPhone that is unlocked and is SIMCARD accessible to any location then I WOULD REALLY RECOMMEND AN IPHONE TO EVERYONE HERE ON ISLAND.
Sadly, no one yet has one, but only the older iPhone, which is a lot more expensive than the 3G that’s already been sold in the US.
Hope someone can help with this concern. *sigh.
David.
Guam.
Um, I don’t know how your BlackBerry is set up, but I can see my SMS text messages in a nice, threaded view while replying to them, and It has BB OS 4.2 as well…
Andy’s comment has mentioned this as well.
I have the old Iphone. I like it, BUT AT&T SUCKS as a carrier. I’m in Burlington NC they SUCK. I tell everyone the phone is like a mercedes with a yugo carrier.
As of right now, the iPhone is working out the kinks as a business phone. It’ll take a little while for it to really become a good option, but you can tell they’re working on it and they’ll get there eventually.
But as a phone goes for anything else, I think it’s pretty good. But for work I’d go with a Blackberry as of right now. 5 years from now I may be saying something very different…
Blackberry = Old School
iPhone = New School
If you’re in with the old; pick Blackberry.
If you’re in with the new; pick iPhone.
I’ve chosen the latter.
I have used both, an iPhone and a Blackberry and hands down the iPhone wins. With the 2G iPhone it was pretty much a tie but with 3G, GPS and Exchange support the iPhone comes ahead. The iPhone does everything the BB does and more. Yes the BB has been out longer but what is that supposed to mean? From day one with the App Store you can see how that is going to take the iPhone to the next level.
For the past 5-10 years the BB was king but now iPhone has taken its place as the best smartphone on the market. Apple has shaken up the market and is in the drivers seat and guess who it sees in the rearview mirror?
I have a Blackberry Curve and I LOVE it- it’s so easy to use, practical, and no way near as expensive as the iphone- my sister has the iphone and I have no idea how she manages, you have to be so careful touching everything and every time i try to use i find it more of a hassle than it’s worth- sorry I’m a blackberry fan :)
The iphone is just another one of apple’s inventions to suck out every penny you’re worth
I have had a BB Curve for about a month. I am a first time BB user. I am now a crackberry addict!As a Realtor, I don’t know how I ever did business without it. It has made me so much more efficent and productive. My buddies at ATT said they would switch out my curve for the bold when it launcehs (August 1st I think).
I can’t believe how the adult world has disappeared and we’re all kids now, babbling on about toys…BlackBerrys, iPhones, GPS, bla bla bla. I have a good career going and function with an old cellphone and an older computer
Blackberry forever it is! I was thinking about swiching, but now I don’t have too! Thanks for confirming!
Isn’t there a great deal of hiddent fees within the iphone such as a $30 per month extra fee along with a $120 2 year contract? All of this extra money easily makes this more expensive than the original. False advertisement if you ask me
Hi Tools- Blackberrys RULE! Love them, Esp. Blackberry messenger :-) If you ask me, nothing beats the “O” faced happy face… Hi, Sonia, Megan and Michele!
You’re a moron for not having set your SMS message history so that you CAN read a trail / history of messages to / from someone. There are too many other goofy and incorrect comments you’ve made herein to even respond to!
Seriously, can you compare apples to apples? No correlation here. I have a blackberry curve 8330 on the Sprint Network. First, let’s talk serious 3G here. I truly believe the iPhone is awesome; it has great appeal and features that most phones do not have. However, the Blackberry was designed specifically for email. I have used push email before and my battery in my PPC 6700 would die within 8 hours (requires continuos connection to network). If you are buying an iPhone for the true internet experience, you bought the wrong device. Try viewing a full page on an iPhone, you are going to need a seriously huge magnifying glass. Buy a laptop, PC, or a Mac if you need to view full email pages. Now, let’s talk about speed! I average over 850kb on the Spring network each and every time I connect. This has been from the following geographic areas; Denver CO, Glenwood Springs CO, Parker CO, Aurora CO, Laguna Niguel CA, Irvine CA, Weehawken NJ, Manhattan, Phoenix AZ, Minneapolis MN, Sarasota Fl, Tampa FL, Orlando FL, Los Angeles CA, Dallas/Ft. Worth TX. I believe recent speed tests from Walt Mossberg on the iPhone were around 450kb. You decide, if you want true email and complete ease of use then buy a Blackberry. If you want an cool iPod with some great phone features, buy an iPhone. If you truly crave speed! The current Bberry Curve on the Sprint network is by far the best.
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Judi,
Here’s my dilemma: I will have lots of “stuff” on my calendar (work meetings, family events, and workouts) but only 1 email account. I will primarily use the phone to text, check my work email acct, and use the loaded calendar. Which one would you recommend? Thanks for your help.
YES THE WAS GREAT BUT THE ATT SERVICE WAS TOO HIGH WAY TOO EXPENSIVE..THE IPHONE WILL BE GREAT IF THE MAC DEALER WILL ABLE TO SELL IT W/OUT SERVICE SELL THE PHONE JUST IT SELF AND FOR SURE PEOPLE WILL BUY IT……………..
I just traded in my blackberry for an iPhone and the iPhone wins, but not by much. I loved writing emails and text messages on my bb, and the virtual keyboard really sucks and there’s no way around that. The iPhone is killing it though with the apps, the integrated and superior ipod and the overall aesthetic quality of the iPhone. I’ve been on blackberry for years now and I’ll have to deal with my BB email withdrawals, but it’ll be worth it as developers keep rolling out really great and really cool apps…
First, cara, just because a phone has a touch screen doesn’t make it cool. It’s gettin with the ages, cuz touch screens cause a lot of trouble (trust me).
Will, I don’t know how the iPhone works, but with the bb, the contact list can add profile pics, a custom ring tone, a mobile, two works, two phone numbers, a fax number, and notes. Just thought you might know that.
Blackberry Lover!!
It would be nice if I could compare the two. Since AT&T won’t service our area, I can’t get an IPhone. Talk about a monopoly….but that is another subject.
the smartest thing about the iphone paired with a bluetooth headset is that the phone answers to the headset if you use the headset button to answer call, but if you answer call using phone to answer it, it disregards that you have paired headset and routes voice to phone.
Why didn’t anyone think of this before?
BB curve is the best phone out there so far. Far..
LOTS OF PEOPLE WAIST THERE TIME STAY IN THE LINE JUST TO GET THE IPHONE BUT THEY FIND OUT THAT YOU NEED TO SIGN UP TO ATT WE DONT NEED A SERVICE ALL WE WANT IS THE IPHONE IT SELF THANKSSS….
I say Apple screwed up in not including video calls. A couple new phones (HTC Diamond and Nokia N95) are coming out with their phones this summer that has very good quality video calling. Apple should have included the video call in this model if it wanted to stay way ahead of the competition like it usually does. They just let competitors catch up.
iPhone for me? I’m the BlackBerry THUNDER!
What You Should Know Before you Switch from BlackBerry to iPhone?
that is not agood question, why don’t you compare the iphone 3g to samsung i900.
I am a young corporate professional in my early 20′s but i don’t want to be “married to my job” with a “crackberry”! I love my ipod as I take public transportation and my work restricts us from checking personal email. What could be better than having your ipod and smartphone all in one??? I think an iphone would be better for someone like me.
Erik-
It is interesting that you mention 25k+ developers for the iPhone and that being a good thing. Yes it’s nice to have all the options but they are doing nothing other than what Microsoft has done for years. So when some 15 year old kid gets bored with the code and figures out how to hack everyone’s iPhone, they’ll blame Mac like they did Microsoft because of all the “Open back doors”. By my meaning of a “back doors” is perfectly legit code/protocols that is abused and used the way the developer had not thought of. Much like many Microsoft products have been.
You can only open so many doors before someone takes advantage of it. I’m waiting the day when they first major hack comes down.
Also, I go to the AT&T store, and I find out that the texting on the iPhone SUCKS!!! I have big fingers ( I know I’m not the only one), and my words come sao keli wset (out like this). And I text way more than I talk on the phone. So that’s a give-a-way.
my bb is my life…and i would not switch. the iphone may look nice but i prefer my bb!!
i have a few email addys and this phone serves me well.
Hmmm Judi , how many free I-phones did you get for that endorsement?
Does no one care about security for their email, and actually getting that direct push? Will your IT department actually allow emails to be sent to it ? (Where I work is strictly Verizon, and BB)
I think that the Iphone is an awesome product, as it places much needed competition in the industry, but I wouldn’t actually *use* one as my *primary* work tool. (shudder)
Why should anyone get the blackberry when something as great as the iPhone has come out. Blackberry is so last season as the iPhone is so this season!
Learn your stuff girl!
Sounds like a bunch of defensive RIMM stock owners are on this board VERY nervous about losing their shirt to the iPhone/Apple. I would be too except that I own RIMM and feeling pretty comfortable with my AAPL position right now considering Apple sold 1 million phones in 3 days this weekend and exceeded analyst expectations.
Since Apple announced the iPhone 3G in Mid-June, RIMM stock has plummeted 33%, let me guess… coincidental? Tough economy? Whats the excuse?
With so many copy cat iPhone wannabe’s coming out, including the Thunder, Instinct, HTC, Prada, etc… clearly iPhone is a hit.
A QWERTY keyboard isn’t going to help RIMM. That Thunder better be good!
The Wing from T-Mobile blows both the Crackberry and the iPhone out of the water. Saddens me it’s not even in the discussion.
I’m tied between the coolest phone the iPhone and the phone I had to start out with, the Blackberry! But I still rate the iPhone ten on my list! You betta belive it sugar!
HEY Smily :)
About the BB … I also hate the no letters on the keys – can you please tell me if your way will work on the
BB Curve-8320. If you know this?
I tried it and get nothing? Do you know if it would work on mine also?
appreciate your help
Thanks
C
HEY I LOVE MY B- BERRY BECAUSE I CAN WASHVIDEOS PLAY AS WELL I DOWNLOAD ANY VIDEOS AND I USED AS A WIRELES WITH MY LAPTOP COMPUTER I PHONE FREEZE ALL THE TIME LIKE I POPS THEY SOX SORRY PEOPLE DONT LEAVE THE BERRYS FOR THE APPLES.
chance: doesnt tmobile have bad reception??????
I have to use a blackberry when it’s my turn to be on call and I hate it. It is the single worst phone I’ve ever used. Sure, being able to ssh into a machine is nice, but it’s sloooowwwwwwww. Not to mention the keyboard is horrible and the screen is too small. I’d rather have a plain jane nokia.
I have been a Black Berry user for nearly a year and I must say that I totally love it. I use it for personal use and love the convenience of the web if needed while out or on the go. Once this phone totally dies (in the distant future I hope), I am sure I will be buying my next Black Berry.
^^^
I have a BB 8330 Curve with Verizon, and after all that’s said and done, if I can’t get my emails sent/received immediately, and a decent cell signal, all I have is a paperweight.
For me the email function is alpha and the omega, anything else is just extra.
The information presented was bias.. the i have had used both and there is not question that the i phone is sick!! very cool the lead the way with such a great interface.. but putting the touch screan aside blackberry kills the iphone for web, email, txt, there are downloads to change the format and themes.. it dope and oh yeah have you heard of the BLACKBERRY THUNDER!!! oh yeah it will be all touch that the true young profesionals phone..!!
interested in the IPhone?? The LG Dare blows it out of the water..
BLACKBERRY IS NOT WORTH IT! EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY JOSHT, NEEDS TO SWITCH. THE BLACKBERRY BOLD IS GOING TO SUCK AND NOT BE AS BADASS AS IPHONE 3G. PERSON WHO WROTE BOLD IS GETTING WIFI…..ABOUT TIME!!! ALITTLE LATE IF I MIGHT ADD. PERSON WHO SAID ITS TOO EXPENSIVE…HAVE YOU SEEN THEY LOWERED THE PRICE? BLACKBERRY OR RASBERRY OR BOISENBERRY, OR BLUEBERY..WHATEVER ITS CALLED, TOTALLY NOT WORTH HAVING AND ID TOTALLY WAIT 7 HOURS AGAIN IN A HEARTBEAT FOR ANOTHER IPHONE. LETS SEE SOME PEOPLE WAIT THAT LONG FOR A STUPID BLACKBERRY!!!!
Can I just say that I work for Verizon and if you are going to compare anything that we make to an iPhone, it shoule be the LGDare…not the BlackBerry. BlackBerry phones are data phones, they require you to have online services….online services without a data plan will cause you to have a large bill. Yes, I know Verizon kinda sucks sometimes…people dont have answers blah blah blah but in all honesty, when we say we’re America’s Most Reliable Network…we are. I can say that anywhere you go where I live, you wont have service with your crappy AT&T service. So have fun not moving out of the only spot you can make a phone call.
Blackberry has a free program that is called AutoLock . . .which after a setup time will lock the keyboard and save battery power.
Blackberry are the best..i heard the new iphone is giving problems …soo i dont think i will change my blackberry for that..i really happy with bb…
Has anyone else noticed the posts from iPhone supporters seem to blatantly disregard punctuation and capitalization rules, and seem to be written by mildly autistic children?
I have a Motorola Q and I love it but I have been considering switching over to the new G3 Iphone or a black beery when the new version comes out. After reading this article it looks like I will be going with the Black Berry I am a huge email user considering I run an E-company so 80% of my time with the phone will be in email mode. Thank you so much for the article you helped me make an educated decision
If you want to do anything work related on your phone get the blackberry. Why would anyone get the iPhone “3G” over the Samsung Instinct?
The Instinct uses the newest Rev-A internet speeds which is the bigger and much younger brother of 3G. No replaceable battery? Internet coverage is still not as large and your cellular plan costs more.
For all of you that want to pay more for an inferior product, I have a 1994 Honda Civic on sale for $60k. (3 tires included)
I have Sprint 8330 BB with the Beta 4.5.0.51 installed and let me tell you that HTML is great on the BB. Like Judi said having all your emails in one inbox is great to being able to respond. Also don’t know if iPhone fixed the deleting of emails one by one, which can be a drag when you have several email accounts with 50 or more emails. On the BB just highlight or delete prior and your good to go. The new Docs To Go is great on the BB. You can edit Word docs, Excel, and PowerPoint files. The BB Browser works faster, and you can view YouTube Videos on the BB. with 4.5 OS. You can send voice notes to other BB Messanger works great when you can’t type a message you just simply record your message and send it. The MiniOpera works great, I have downloaded Podcast using miniopera and play it on the BB 8330 without a problem. The GPS works great with 3rd party search programs, example Live Search, 411, infoSpace, and Google Maps. You can dial right out of the program once it finds what your looking or view map, info, etc… Also the OTA installed programs work great. You can be on the road and install programs. I sync my BB with GoogleSync which works great, then you can sync to Outlook or iCal which means no wires to sync for calendar only. You still need to sync with USB cable for Task, Memo’s, etc…
I upgraded today from a Motorola v3 to iPhone!
Glad I held out for this one, as I’ve tried the Blackberry (and was given one as a graduation gift) and was not a major fan of it!
michelle
Graduation Stoles
I love my blackberry! I have several friends who own iphones so I have had many opportunities to get to know the phone, other than the superior web browsing experience I can’t really see the iphone as anything but a sophisticated toy. It really is not a useful tool for anyone needing a strong office communication tool.
THERE IS NO OTHER PHONE THAT COMBINES A FULL IPOD WITH A PHONE! NAME ONE……YOU CANT.
Regarding earlier, misguided comments:
This is supposed to be about iPhones and Blackberries, but since someone had to rant off topic97:34 pm post), a few facts are in order:
“people still target MACs with viruses, but, there isn’t as many”
Can you name just one? (Symantec has identified over 750,000 that run on MS Windows. They think there may be one Trojan horse in the wild that could impact Macs.)
“Because they [macs] don’t have programs most people want to use.” Really, what do you call Word, Excel, Power Point, FileMaker, FastTrack, MYOB, VectorWorks, Ashlar Vellum, QuarkExpress, and Photoshop, programs all available for years on Macs before they ever even showed up on MS Windows systems. Or how about Pages, iMovie, Numbers, Keynote, Final Cut Pro, Logic, Aperture, Web Objects, programs people love to run, make a living using, and that run only on a Mac. (When Bill Gates built his mansion, the Architects he hired designed it on a Mac. Tight time schedule, he could get it done when he wanted, or get it done on a MS Windows systems, but he couldn’t do both).
“3 programs to do 1 simple conversion” referring to converting an mpeg4 sound file to the now archaic mp3 file format. Uh, dude, just go to iTunes, go to preferences and select your file format of choice, even the old mp 3 standard is there, then select the file(s) you want to convert, then choose “Convert Selection” under the “advanced” pull down menu, and you are there. No need for 3 programs. You are trying to do it the MS Windows way.
GOOD JOB MICHELLE! FINALLY SOMEONE SMART IS ON THIS DISCUSSION
so about that SMS text messaging…. I have a Blackberry Curve, and I’m not sure if she’s looking at the same text messages EVERY other blackberry user is looking at when he says……
“….it’s still an awkward interface because you can’t see the text message you’re replying to as you’re typing.”
Uh…. hell yeah you can! I’ve had several different smartphones and by far, my favorite is The Curve BECAUSE you can see the message you’re replying to. And this chick has obviously never used Blackberry Messenger, it’s JUST like any and EVERY other IM on the FACE of the earth. You can send files through it. AND here’s the kicker…. IT DOESN’T USE YOUR TEST MESSAGES FROM YOUR CARRIER! Sure the other person has to have a Blackberry user, but it’s still awesome.
So I’m thinking, before you post about WHY someone should switch, make sure all the info is correct. And don’t get me wrong, the iPhone is pretty kick ass. As a regular multi-media phone. But as an organizer, e-mail on the go, and just all around smart phone powerhouse…. blackberry all the way
My wife went with the iPhone and tried to get me one. My IT group wouldn’t support it. Since then I have heard nothing but grumbling about the iPhone and I couldn’t be happier with my BB (although I also HATE that there aren’t the letters on the numbers too!). Blackberry is still the clear winner.
I have a blackberry 8800, got an iphone when it first came out because it looked cool. I’m giving away my iphone because i like the bb much better and am waiting for the bold to come out. The blackberry looks more classy, the iphone is for kids!
PEOPLE WITH BLACKBERRIES: STOP, TAKE SOME TIME TO THINK, FIGURE OUT WHAT’S IMPORTANT TO YOU! AND DONT BE STUPID TOO.
the iphone doesnt even have a picture messaging feature im staying with my trusty bb
Guys if you try to do the functions of a computer on a Phone, you will have problems whether its a blackberry iPhone. I play multiple roles in the Project team I work in and as a result, I end up working anywhere from 12 to 18 hour days. I’m on a computer dealing with tons of different applications, spreadsheets, email and instant messagging communications, remote accessing, databases, servers, etc, etc, etc, the whole time I am at work and I wouldnt even think about trying to do even one tenth of my work on a cell phone, even in the year 2020. When I am mobile, I use a laptop with wireless internet and wifi. Cell phones are meant for making/accepting calls, plus some additional features to make your life a little easier but not to replace computers. The blackberry is more business oriented so it will have more features that will make your work easier when mobile. The iPhone is just a phone that most of us out there including adults, kids, teens, college students, etc will have fun using and showing off. The good thing is that the iPhone has so many features that it beats all traditional phones out there and even puts so many of them business oriented pocket PC’s etc on shaky grounds. But if you are a business professional using a Blackberry and are intimidated by the coolness of the iPhone, dont be. I’ll give you an example. No matter how cool a five hundred thousand dollar sports car may look, it will NOT pull your boat, or your RV, etc, etc. Thats why I bought four cars; a full-size truck, a cool turbo sports car, a V8 Luxury car, and a small 4-cylinder commuter car. Basically what I am trying to say is thats theres no comparison. Just have both of them and appreciate the functionalities of the both of them just like I bought 4 different cars instead of trying to find one car which will do all the work because thats just not possible. I have both phones too. I was given a blackberry from work (an older one though) and my personal one is the iPhone. Have an open mind people. And as far as the head-set goes I dont even use it. One reason is because I have 2 phones so I will probably need 2 ear pieces (I dont know for sure because I have never tried it) which will look totally wierd. Also, how will you show off your cool iPhone if its always in your pocket and all people get to see is a cheap ear-piece sticking in your ear. The third reason is that I’ve been through tons of blue tooth pieces within the past 3 or 4 years and I have never appreciated one as much as an old school wired connection. Only time I need to be hands-free is when I am driving because of the new law. The cool thing about the iPhone is that I connect it directly to my cars audio system using a 4-pin audio cable between the iphone and the cars audio system. I hear through my car speakers and talk through the microphone thats built into the audio-system. As easy as that. When a call comes in, the music fades away and the phone takes over and when the call ends the music comes back on. Isnt that beautiful? So why fight. Just buy yourself an iPhone and I bet you’ll love it. And think about it, right now its cheaper then what I paid for a Motorolla Razr 4 years ago which is nothing at all compared to the 3G iPhone. The iPhone is as cheap as them iPod Nano’s that people just buy and give away to kids, teens, friends and family members during Christmas season. I wasnt crazy enough to stand in line to get an iPhone because I already had an EDGE iPhone but I just walked in the next day and got me 2 brand spanking new iPhone 3G for my wife and me and we’re both loving it. I think I will buy one iPhone 3G for each of my 3 brothers and for my parents (and offcourse, my wifes parents and brothers and sisters) within the next month or so. I thank Judi for giving the pro’s and the con’s of both phones but I would say again that there is NO comparison. If you’re and individual, you dont need the Blackberry so just get the iPhone and if you’re a business professional, have your company supply you with a blackberry and you can still have your personal iPhone on the side. Simple!!!!
What about using power point on the iphone. I am in the medical industry and I want to show like a PP doc that maybe shows a slide of a presentation or a journal article. Can I do use or buy software to do this on the Iphone. I can do this on the BB but the screen is way too small.I really hate the miniscreen of the BB
thanks for all the feedback. i was going to get a new iphone for my b-day in two weeks but after reading the feedback, i think i’ll just upgrade from the pearl to the curve. thanks a lot peeps!!!
Here is my argument. I pay $60 a month to T-Mobile for 1000 anytime minutes… unlimited email… unlimited data (web browsing, downloads, wutever)… and unlimited text messaging. First of all, at AT&T it costs $60 for just 900 minutes and NOTHING else… the unlimited data has been increased to $30 a month and this doesn’t include text messaging with is another $20 a month… so for what I get with my blackberry… even tho its not as fast as 3G… you would have to pay $120 a month!!!!! and you get 100 minutes less than me… Blackberry Curve with T-Mobile please and thank you ;)
OK, I have the 8310 and my wife bought the i-Phone 8GB (the 16 was sold out). My biggest worries were:
1. battery life
2. typing
3. email
We had the day off yesterday so we tested both phones for each of the items above.
1. battery: my BB, while running emails, internet, sms, basically anything I could do to keep using the phone: 4 hours 38 minutes before it was ready to shut down. iPhone: same situation 5 hours 42 minutes. SO, iPhone beat the battery charge. Granted, I never use the BB for that long of a time- all in one sitting. Most of the time, when I am driving about, I charge it in the car between stops. I guess that could be the same for the iPhone. Either way, iPhone battery lasted longer.
2. Typing: I HATED THE iPhone’s touch screen. Kept hitting “o” instead of “p”. … at least for the first couple hours. I found it got a lot easier the more I used it- and when I got over not pushing on the glass (you just touch it instead). Now, I kind of like the typing- very different layout and feel, but not bad at all.
3. Emails: OK, this I wasn’t really able to test on an equal basis. I have several accounts that come into me all the time on the BB. My wife has 2 (work and yahoo). I would send her emails to both accounts and she had no problem getting them. A little # would pop up on the email button on her iPhone letting her know she had a new email arrive.
(4) SMS. iPhone has my BB in the dust for this one. I absolutely love the way the SMS is laid out. Very easy to follow, more like a chat session than SMS. Like my BB, but LOVE the iPhone’s.
The one thing I wonder about is what happens a year or two down the road when the battery needs to be replaced…will Apple or ATT be able to change it in-store while you wait, or will it take a long time??? The Apple store we went to had not changed a batter yet, from the first set of phones last year- not a battery that had gone bad due to use. They have replace iPhones that had gone bad, what ever that means, but they had not received any phones in for battery replacement yet.
OK, there is my 2 cents on the iPhone comparison. Would I buy one??? I don’t know if I can part with my BB, but if I did- I think I would be happy with the iPhone too.
JAY, SMART MAN FOR BUYING IPHONE 3G.
For those BB Lovers like myself, have you not heard of the Blackberry Thunder coming out either in October or November? It is fully digital like the Iphone, but still should be the incredible simplicity of the BB. Google blackberry thunder for a picture
BLACKBERRYS TASTE BETTER THAN APPLES .
To all you Blackberry doubters…hold tight, there is a storm on the horizon….can you hear “THE THUNDER”?
I actually found my “Blackberry” great to use, and the price was terrific. I think all of these so called comments are from Apple staff and persons that received free Iphones as a “Gift” to comment. But that’s marketing these day’s. Thanks for my comments appearing soon. !!! Karema.
Well, It seems you people help me out with my decision on what phone should I get. IPHONE of course, BB are so 90′s and no matter what they’ll do they will always be the OLD phone system.
90 % of my friend went to the Iphone and there must be for a good reason. So what if the Iphone have a few things to improve.
Did you really think that everybody LOVE the BB when they first came out? I still remember when people said what a piece of crap the BB was
I have had numerous phones including: Blackberry, HTC, Palm, Nokia, Motorola, Samsung, Iphone, and many others, but the Iphone 3G is the best so far.
the iphone is the new idea if its from at@t you know its the best there r no subs. the iphone rocks. oh by the way SPRINT SUCKS1!!!!!!!!!!! IF U HAVE A CHANCE TO GET THE I PHONE TRUST ME U WILL LOVE IT NO QESTIONS ASK.
Holding alt and typing letters dials the corresponding number, (or directory entry to the article’s point) on the blackberry.
I’m not sure about all Blackberries but you can see your text message conversation on the Curve and Pearl models. It shows the last eight messages that were sent between you and that person. I love my BB Curve.
GOOD JOB PAUL AND RICK C.
Couple quick points about BlackBerry and iphone.
BlackBerry Enterprise service has NEVER been hacked into, the security is unhackable. The apps built are for more advanced then Iphone. Look up “BlackBerry Solution,” the phone can do REAL TIME heart monitoring for hospitals! It’s nuts what the phone can do.
The new Bold WILL be able to play iTunes (read the Bold press release for the phone reviewer!)It will have 1gig of internal memory on board with capacity for a 16gig miniSD.
iphone is pretty cool, but there is a reason most companies are using BlackBerry of iphone. It’s because iphones are for kids not professionals.
ONE LAST POINT! IMPORTANT! IMPORTANT! During Katrina and 911 BlackBerry PIN messenger or BlackBerry messenger it was the most reliable way to communicate. PIN messanging goes through internal servers at BlackBerry not through carrier equipment. The carriers we not able to handle volume, so poeple with BlackBerrys were able to communicate. iphone does not have that option. PIN messaging does not cost money because it does not go through carrier equipment.
The blackberry is such a better phone, I had the I phone and switched, I had the treo and switched back i had every pda phone made and always came back to the blackberry
THE WORST THING ABOUT ALL OTHER PHONES TRYING (AND I MEAN THAT WITH THE UPMOST RESPECT) IS THAT THEY ALL COPY THE IPHONE WITH THE TOUCH SCREEN. APPLE HAS FIGURED IT OUT. DO SOMETHING NEW THAT CAN CHANGE THE WORLD INSTEAD OF COPYING PEOPLE. THERE REALLY ARE LOSERS IN THIS WORLD AND PEOPLE NEED TO THINK MORE. STEVE JOBS= GENIUS
3G iPhone? In what, 1% of the coverage area? What good is a 3G phone if the Network does not support it? Don’t waste your time, stick with Blackberry on a Reliable, fast network!
LOVE U FRECHY
I think the iPhone looks way better than the BlackBerry. Only if an iPhone had a slide out physical keyboard. I mean maybe apple and microsoft should come together. Who knows what might come of that! Maybe stuff way better than what we are seeing today.
ANY THING WITH A FRUIT NAME BEHIND IT , IT IS MABE TO BE EATEN BB IS SOUR DONT BUY IT
I have both the apple and the blackberry and i would stil stick w/ the blackberry for productivity sake.
Jay… who cares how many cars you have? Seriously its over for you. Please, do us all a favor and unplug your computer and lick the light socket.
Oh by the way you can paid a bluetooth headset with multiple devices. Or if its a wire headset, you just unplug them and plug them in the other one.
AN APPLE ADAY KEEPS EVERY OTHER PHONE AWAY GO IPHONE
pair*
Had a Blackberry got an iPhone got for Christmas, I was not happy, but after one week of using iphone I realized I could never go back to the Blackberry. And every other phone feels like a kids toy.
bb much more superior phone, dont get me wrong, iphone is a cool phone with some cool apps, i loved my bb 8830 WE, but i wanted to try something new so i got my lg dare, great phone, everyone switch to verizon, you wont be sorry,
iphone is the # 1 phone in the world!!!!!!
Frenchy, Like your only arguement is telling someone they are a loser?
Please see above comment for Jay and repeat twice.
I would say it’s not worth the time of arguing. Different people have different needs and that’s what makes the final call on what a person wants to buy. Some are hit and miss and others can turn out to be just the right thing. Either way with how quickly things change companies will find a way to keep up with each other. It’s all about how much time you are willing to stick with something.
PEOPLE CANT HANG WITH US IPHONE
Hi
both have their own advantages and disadvantages I disaggree with people saying that iphone is for kids.
Its new therefore everyone wants to try.
If i am not wrong blackberry does not support nettelephony for international calls.
you can try FRING on iphone its really worth if one wants to make international calls.
Blackberry is over!!!!! Iphone is # 1
For the BlackBerrys check out YouMail.com, I dont know if it works for the iphone. It a messaging service that lets you customize what your voicemail messages are for who calls. It nice if your personal phone is your work phone as well.
GOOD NITE ALL IPHONE CARRIERS
Who’s the retard that said the Treo was the way to go? I went through 9 of those pieces of garbage before I woke up. I’ve been waiting for an article like this to come around. Everyone makes a good point. Well, not everyone… Sounds to me that the Iphone is a flashy tricked up pony, while the BB is no frills just dependable. I’ll take dependable in a phone/email retriever all day long and twice on Sundays.
There is a way you can separate the text messages and the email on a blackberry if you have a blackberry curve. The new OS came with it and i can check my email and text messages separately. Also, I get unlimited minutes, unlimited text, unlimited data transfer, unlimited emails, unlimited Sprint TV with my current carrier for $99. the only thing that I see the Iphone being superior than the blackberry is the Screen and coolness factor. For business, I would still recommend the blackberry. —- Blackberry user since 2003.
i dont see how you cant listen to voice mail on a bluetooth i have the new jawbone and listen to my voicemail just fine although i took visual voicemail off so its just like a regular voice mail so that could be your problem. and you can put the iphone to sleep easily by tapping the power button to easily lock the key pad before you put it in your purse
IPhone is nothing to brag about. Tried 2 not the best phone. Like the IPODs that break ALL THE TIME…it will follow suit. So far I am not impressed with any of Apples mini products they are cheap. Apple needs to stick with what it knows computers and only computers. Sorry Apple not your number 1 fan
I will not give up my Blackberry for an iPhone because i HATE cingular, dealt with them for many years and I refuse to go back. not going to lie, my apple stock is amazing though hahaha
I’m cool with my nokia 5110…
Come on people enough already! This is so stupid! I think the iPhone is for regular people and BB are for business people and the features for both dictate that. Nuff said. The only reasons that Apple or RIM add any more features are to please US consumers who think a device is useless unless it has every feature known to have ever been invented by man. The ridiculousness of some people who believe that more features equals a better product. These things are supposed to allow us more freeom but it seems some people want to use them to stay handcuffed to their pathetic little techie life.
Everyone with an iPhone is ignorant. Just because Paris Hilton uses an iPhone, you think it will make you more like her. The iPhoneis an entertainment device, while the BB is something that is going to be used mostly for work.
3G? Verizon and Sprint have been using that for years now.
Those of us that are on the road allot not just at a desk. Need a system mobile that is functions to our needs. My question is, What is the cost difference between the iPhone and BB.? The total cost of the hardware then the service. What average cost per month and which system gives me the best coverage on the phone and connection. Thank You
what happened the to good ol days when all you did was pick up the phone, click that reciever yoke twice and ask sarah to connect you to goober down at the filling station or floyd at the barber shop….i miss the party line… joco
BlackBerry is the beginning, middle, and end of the story for me. The e-mail features keep me in business.
I read every comment and still don’t know which phone to get. Can anyone tell me what phone is better for someone that wants to make calls, go online occasionally, text message and send and receive pics and listen to music. I am not a business person and check my emails on my laptop so I guess I want a new gagdet and I was considering the iphone. I also have ATT and have never had any problems with dropped calls. I have had them for four years and would recommend them to anyone, granted I don’t travel much so I can’t speak for how it works in other states (PA).
Answer for Will about contact information:
I don’t know about Blackberry, but the iPhone can hold for each contact a single picture, a single custom ringtone, and multiple work phone numbers, multiple home phone numbers, multiple cell phone numbers, multiple fax numbers, multiple E-mail address, multiple web sites, at least two mailing addresses, birthdate, anniversary, and “custom” dates, a single prefix and suffix for each name, phonetic and actual spellings for the first and last names (phonetic spelling is not available for middle name), nickname, employer name, job title, department, a custom label you define for each contact, and a note field where you can add anything you can type about the person (multiple paragraphs are allowed.)
Only information that has been filled in is displayed when you select a contact, so you are not faced with a screen full of blank fields. (You can select the Edit command to have access to the fields that you want to add).
When a person calls, their picture shows up on the screen, so you can see at a glance who it is. If you have assigned a custom ringtone, the phone uses that ringtone when the person calls, so you know just from listening who it is (assuming you remember which ringtone you assigned to which person.
Verizon and Sprint are not 3G, they are a CDMA network with high data speeds due to freguency. Its older technology with beter reception.
FYI, vg30boy@gmail.com has pop settings, so you can set it up on iphone’s email app and have it auto download. Vg30boy@gmail.com ROCKS! I have my iphone 3g ordered and should have it in 7 to 10 days, but after some of these posts and your back to back review I am wondering if I messed up:(
Anyway, we’ll see
Sent from my BB Curve.
better*
LifeWarrior…
AT&T has the best network, but the plans they have are not as customizable as T-mobile.
are you really kidding me? the blackberry has a new 3G phone coming out that is as compatible and runs better than the iphone. the iphone had too much problems with its software. And why are they always making too many corrections.
thanks but no thanks, i love my blackberry.
p.s. the blackberry is a better business phone.
well i guess am going with the iphone even though i love my bb curve is like relly kool but i would like to try the iphone,probably come back later when the BB THUNDER COMES OUT,,,
iPHONE iPHONE iPHONE iPHONE iPHONE ????
What’s all this talk about? I got my Samsung Instinct from Sprint and I will not trade for all this junk and money wasting. I spend $99.99/mth and get Unlimited talk,data,nav, TV, and more…iPhone? Forget that i-catcher good for nothing piece of nothing!!
yeah… give comments and compare the 2 phone if you have both.. ayt..? reprezent…
well, the above is a fine example of when the bb auto text SUCKS!!! where it displayed my gmail address, should have just been “Gmail”.
that does it… Im tossing the bb, come on iPhone!
I stick to my BB for the time being, the battery last like a champion no comparison, I travel a lot internationally and it is really robust to send and receive emails from Taxis from Lima to Rio, nothing compares. Not to mention you can always find a cheap USB charger anywhere in case you forget yours at home or the office.
Well I love all the opinions everyone has given concerning I-phone and BB.
I used a Palm with GPS it work great, I like to text so I switch to a At&T 8525 and everything worked great to. Added another line with a BB fist I hated it then as I started to get used to it, I love it. It’s a BB 8700C now I’m doing a upgrade. This is what I love about being an American ( especally the baby boomers )
We all have opinions, hey to everyone that gave an opinion thanks from one American to another. As far as, the iphone I’m still trying to fix my ipod. Being a musican on the go, besides playing from boro to boro and living in New York City I need to be everywhere, all at once. Sounds crazy to me too. I work in Banking and need to check sites, text, GPS, handsfree, camera, especially good internet access. The people who’s emails I read, and I respect everyone opinions, the BB Curve is my next phone, Thanks America.
@ Sandymac5469
Unless you needed MMS, the iPhone is a better choice. However, to get around the lack of MMS (which may be a future feature, it’s only software after all), you can just email the photo which is a simple process.
Good article with some interesting feedback. What’s with the iPhone hate from the berries? Stuck in a contract or still cannot afford it? The email on the iPhone defiantly needs some work, but not bad for having Sirius Satellite radio, ITunes (that’s a music player for you berries), camera, movie player, remote control, GPS, thousand of apps to download (and more to come), BMW integration, secure Wi FI, internet that you look find things to lookup, and I think you can make phone calls from it. So save your milk money, cancel one magazine subscription (you have enough of them), do not go to every HH at the local bar or to every one because you live in NYC, put away the Eastlands, and throw away that berry (even if it is Bold, which I doubt) with the Skidz that are still in your closet (yes you)….and between TV Land episodes of I Love Lucy and Fresh Prince, go see your nearest Apple store. Do not knock it until you try it…and no one is standing 3 hours in line for a berry.
Visual Voice Mail, iPhone has it, but does anybody know if Blackberry has it?
One thing that is a big productivity booster on the iPhone is Visual Voice Mail. I can see at a glance who has called, which calls I have listened to, and which ones I haven’t, and listen to any one voice mail without having to go through all the calls that came in before or after it. I can also use my finger to “scrub” through the call, replaying any part that I need to hear again without having to repeat the entire message. This is a tremendous time saver in my business. Does Blackberry have anything like this? I haven’t seen anybody mention it, and since so many here say Blackberry is for business, I assume by its omission it is something the Blackberry users are missing out on. Is it?
yeah… thats right deuce… for only $99.99 for the simply everything plan plus the instinct. what a combination. go sprint!
Thank you X Rep
What about the cost difference per month is one really cheaper then the other for unlimited text and min on phone.
TY
I have both and I love them, they have different things, for business Blackberry for fun iPhone…:-)
I would probably switch if the iPhone were available on an other network. I hate AT&T!! It’s more important for me to have a phone I am can talk to someone on…….
Instinct still rocks!! More affordable across the board. You need not break your pockets…
Iv’e got a ipod touch and the new Lg shine i’m fine.
not only is it more affordable to but a blackberry, but if you actually have real work to do, it just plain makes sense, but if you just an apple slacker than obviously the iphone is your best bet
hey Judi, any chance of switching back to BB, when they launch Bold ? If you are a pro, you got to have BB…
JCM… try Youmail, its free and it has the service you are looking for. I dont know if iphone has it.
Robert… The Bold will play iTunes.
although i have never tried out a iphone. i would have to say ever since i got my blackberry im a addicted. at&t doesnt offer isurance unless its changed.. i had got mine stolen and waited to save money got another blackberry curve and i just love my phone so much! im sticking to my fruit of a berry : D
you must be nuts if you really think a blackberry is better phone, once the iphone 3g came out i threw my curve to the side. The iphone is the smartest phone out there but then again you have to have some brains to work it so i am sorry for you bb owners over 45.
P.s all i miss of having a black berry curve was making a call over the wifi
ummmm… blackberries are for cavemen… iphones are for cool people.
I have used both, and will stick with my Blackberry Curve, yeah not as fashionable, but MUCH more reliable, If I want to show off, I can always pull my olds 80′s huge carrying case cell phone out, and said I had one before anyone did..lol and it STILL works, (more or less, as a phone only..kinda/sorta)
Lifewarrior… If you are not going to use email that much, I would get an iphone, but if you are not using iTunes and want to use your music collection I would steer clear because of protected music files.
I would have to disagree to whoever say AT&T has the better network than T-Mobile.
I used to have AT&T and I ditched them because they drop calls a lot and most of the time they have a pretty bad audio quality. Maybe it depends on where you are…I am from San Francisco Bay Area.
The only comparable network quality in here is Verizon but they cost a fortune.
If you don’t believe me, check on the Consumer Reports and JD Power and Associates.
hey, i’ve used an BB before anyone was really utilizing its capabilities…i don’t own one now, but i have this to say.
if you switch from BB to iphone…you’re not in business and probably don’t need to own a BB anyway.
RIM has always created BB for business people first-end of story!
so, if you’re running a business…and require a device that will meet your needs-leave that iphone alone…its a COOL GADGET.
PS the iphone camera really is crappy!
I like Verizon for phone service and most co-workers and family have that service so free talk. But the new BB Curve
Price: $149.99 with a 2-year agreement on a Nationwide Email plan.
($219.99 with a 2-year agreement – $70 online discount)
How does this compare to the BB sprint,ATT&T, iPhone.
At these times, its all about money but you don’t mind spending more if you get the connections and the tools that meet your needs.
No use saving money on something that does not work.
LW
And for me, coverage is still KING. Blackberry Curve from T-Mobile is a UMA phone…so, you can have a solid coverage in your house even (just in case) if you have a so-so GSM coverage. Best thing is?…you don’t burn your minutes using wi-fi calling.
BONUS – I went out of the country and used my BB CURVE with UMA…it still didn’t eat my minutes and NO ROAMING!!!!
I have the 7100i and they ain’t makin a iphone with a walkie talkie other than that Nextel sucks but i need that DC
How does the moto Q9h and the iphone compare was thinking about buying one or the other
Albert… I would agree that Verizon is better in downtown areas and that they cost more. At&t has the largest net work but plans are not as customizeable as T-mobile. At&t and T-mobile will drop more call than Sprint and Verizon.
In response to the Paris Hilton comment, I do not know what phone she uses, but apparently you berry user do….so you can cancel that subscription to People and put the money towards something better just do not get an iPhone cause I can face reality that you also have one…
X Rep…are you kidding me???…Sprint better than T-Mo???…You are probably not from the Bay Area.
Get an iphone. it’s way better than a crap blackberry
Robert, I think Paris Hilton is using Sidekick 3.
I am eagerly waiting in India to eat an apple.
Brian… get ready to get out of Nextel. They are most likely going to be shut down soon because of Sprint problems. At&t does have a push to talk service on BlackBerrys, but not on Iphones(No buttons)
I make and receive about 10,000 text messages a month, so a touchscreen phone, for me, is impossible to work with. I love my bb. It’s the best!
I Was one of those crazy people that got an iPhone last year on the first day. I lucked out and only waited in line for about 20 minutes (independent AT&T store)… LOVE IT!!!! I also got the new 3G on friday (short line again) and…LOVE IT!!! I beleive ther is a phone out there for everyone… Let’s face technology is going to have its gliches. Did the first TV giver you perfect reception on every channel 100% of the time… NO! I think sometimes we expect these things to do the imposible ans work 100% of the time ALL the time. It is still just a phone… remember in the late 1980′s to early 1990′s we thought the pager was the greatest thing since sliced bread. And we kept wanting it to get better and better. My point with all of this is to say that…. figure out what is most important to you and choose your phone accordingly. Until there is a perfect person that can do it ALL… dont expect a perfect machine :)
Caloy, good point on texting.
I used to be a webchat agent so I know Nextels pretty much done but push to talk has a serious delay it’s not instant
I’m a diehard bb man… Nothing against the iPhone but bb’s are the best…Can’t wait for the bold to arrive…
I’ll check my email on my terms thanks…Too many people can’t separate themselves from work and prioritize their family life. Blkberries are for PC-dork dinosaurs, from Canada to top it off. Macs are for innovative, creative, fun, lovers of superior design, from the good old USA…get out of your suit life and discover life in a Tshirt.
I have both Curve 8320 and iphone. Love them both for different reasons. Updated iphone to 2.0, don’t want to pay more a month.AT&T expensive,,,
Thank all for input, those that are really sharing their help. I for one am in the market to upgrade from my phone, live in bay area, need good connection and email, not into iPod, need work tool, and like to find something affordable. Again thanks tonight was fun to get feed back from those that really are not vain and ego and helpful, just reading can tell who wants to hear them selves talk and those that are responding, thanks again to those.
LW
Albert… I did live on the Bay area, Sunnyvale in fact. I hate Sprint!, but they do have better data connection speeds through the network because its CDMA. If you are downtown with a WiFi phone it could be better, but it would take a while to set that put. T-mobile is GSM and a weaker signal, so again if you had a WiFi phone it could work.
I’m amazed at how many BB lovers are total haters…
Before knocking iphone, use one with a mac – I promise you’ll be blown away at how smoothly it syncs with contacts and ical.
Regarding emails: 1) security interests have been addressed with the 2.0 update, so do your homework. Apple listens to the business community and intends to make this the serious device which it is. 2) The touchpad works great. It just takes more than 10 mins to get used to so give it a chance. 3) It will tell you when you have mail. My yahoo account pushes automatically to iphone and gmail checks every 15 mins. Don’t currently have a corporate email so I can’t comment on that.
Regarding battery life: for me this is totally a non-issue. I charge it every night and never run out in the day. Suits my needs, but I can’t speak for everybody.
Regarding AT&T: I have noticed drop calls in the greater NYC area. Far more than in rural New England. Their customer service people have been very helpful when I’ve needed them and on the whole I prefer AT&T to the only two other service providers I’ve dealt with.
There was one post a while back that made comments regarding the multitasking capabilities of the OSx operating system and he clearly misunderstood the way the device functions. Multitasking has nothing to do with using two programs at once, but rather integrating the many resources at the fingertips of developers. I.E. – many apps draw from contacts or google maps, the yellow pages app uses the cell tower triangulation or gps feature (depending which version) to find restaurants in the area, Crash Bandicoot uses accelerometer controls as well as the beautiful display.
The key point to remember with iphone is that it is not simply a device, it is a mobile platform with the ability to adapt to macro trends as well as individual preferences. Having never owned a BB I can’t make a direct comparison, but I’ve read nearly every post in this thread and found nothing substantive in any of the rants by BB lover/iphone haters who clearly need to sit back and watch “Office Space” on their mobile while on their next business trip.
Personally, I’m sold on Apple all around. I’d love to work for such a great American company. Don’t stop now Steve…
X-Rep, do you know when T-Mo is launching their 3G network?
I made the switch from a BBpearl to the iPhone…best decision I ever made!
What BB are you using? My Pearl2 allows me to to see the entire SMS chat session. Changing to the handset is simply done by pressing the trackball after answering the call and select Activate Handset…BT is disconnected.
I am always chasing the next geewhiz technology but my BB still rocks!
I don’t understand what all the fuss is all about. Not everyone is going to like the same things or need the same things. It seems to me that a BB is more for business oriented people that are always on the go and the iphone is more for play. I agree with Jay get both and you can have the best of both worlds. I have a Panteck Duo which is cool but I don’t use all of the features so I guess I should have stuck with my old reliable Motorola v551 that you could put pictures for people in your contact list and give them each their own ringtone. Can anyone tell me if either the iPhone or BB does that and is it worth the money if I am not a business person.
I love my Blackberry….nope….NEVER will I venture to the dark side…EVER.
Great posts! I’ve learned a lot just reading them. Let’s not give the writer a hard time for taking the time to post this comparison. It’s a great way for someone who’s thinking of getting a different phone no matter the type. Yes, we all should research, but having some information to go on before that will help in that research. I have the BB Pearl and love it outside a few things. Missed calls do not show the time the call came in if you notice it the day after, the calendar doesn’t remind me of events (with sound) and the time within a day are only from 9 to 5pm…what to do after 5pm? Oh and the fact that it tries to think what you want to type while texting or emailing–I hate that! :) These are minor and I may not have toyed around enough with it, but I got and love the BB for it’s email. I’m a junkie and have 3 accounts and need them separated. In reading some of the posts it was suggested to use gmail for the iphone. Does it not work with other email accounts? I have 2 dot coms and 1 yahoo, and the 2 dot coms are more important. I need my mail separate. I did figure out how to separate my text messages and was much MORE happier after that. I was thinking of the new iphone as well for it’s web browsing and ability to play video. Right now I just wait until I’m home to open attachments and/or videos. I also love getting my email in real time! I just put it on ‘silent’ during my work hours and I can check it and respond to clients of my home business at anytime. I can listen to vm with my bluetooth headset and conduct voice calling. LA is now adjusting to the new law of hands free driving. I’ve had one for 2 years and love it. I don’t know why folks are fighting it. Sorry another subject. :)Thanks again for all the informative posts!
I’ve been using the iMate Jasjar (HTC Universal) for wayy too long to give up on that keyboard. Most other smartphones I’ve seen bunch too many of the keys together – usually, they put the first row of alphabets with the numbers so you have to push the numbers the gimmick-y way by first pressing some other key (Fn or 123).
The only way someone is getting me off my Jasjar is with a smartphone with more keys (Esc, Ctrl and Alt would be nice)
trust me the blackberry is way better, how can the iphone be so “advanced” but not support pic messages, video recording, voice dialing (hell $25 prepaid phones have them) or bluetooth stereo and its a freaking ipod, i mean come on, and too bad you cant save those nice family pics in your email on myspace on the iphone,or even forwarding messages. the iphone is like trix cereal its for kids if you want a real “Smartphone” a true PDA get a blackberry!
the blackberry can dial dial-by-name directories by simply holding down the alt key and typing the number. as an example: 1-800-FLOWERS, JUST HOLD ALT AND TYPE FLOWERS AND IT WILL CALL THE CORRECT NUMBER.
Hi” Blackberry is the only way to go….I like a good phone for work office!!.the rest are for kids.
Before the Jasjar, the Nokia Communicator was my smartphone of choice, but they don’t have a touchscreen so I haven’t used them in a while. I’ve still got a Communicator picking up dust on a shelf somewhere.
All in all, it boils down to hype. I think Apple as a company is excellent in marketing and creating hype for their products.
But honestly speaking, it looks good and functions good for non-business people. But if you are hardcore businessman, you should stick with ever reliable and faithful BB.
Ah! History repeats itself, again, with Apple in the middle of it, again. The arguments run parallel lines… Apple vs. Microsoft, Mac vs. Windows, iPhone fanboys vs. crackberry addicts… exactly!
And it repeats with me as well. I switched from Windows when I got tired of fighting every single stupid software/hardware installation. Apple understood that personal computing was about the user and not about arrogant programmers and geeks.
Later on, I cursed every single cell phone I’ve owned when for any single task one has to navigate one menu after another and try to get lucky. I re$i$ted the iPhone, and the apparent industrial strength of RIM phones still appeals to me but, once again, I’m marveling at Apple while using the iPhone.
The iPhone may have some technical shortcomings but the user interface is what it should be in a cell phone. It invites one to use the phone’s features, unlike most phones. Grab an iPhone and you’re holding the future of mobile communications (maybe not. Look at MS Vista and wonder if Moto et. al. got the message). That’s it. Fanboys and BBaddicts… fight on! You too Windows people…
Good, honest and informative article.
Realitye Sound Byte… I have a BB and I love Apple products, but BBs work better with work. At&t dropped calls are usually from houses that have lath & plaster houses, the freuqence of At&t and T-mobile is not strong as CMDA (Vzw or Sprint)
Albert… No idea when it will launch, but I know its coming!
GO RAZR! More people have a RAZR then any other phone on the planet you freekin manbearpigs!!!!!
i think that iphone is new revoulation in world
the i phone 3g is wak both of the i phones are wak cuz every time u go to press somthin it goes to somthin else
You guys should wait for HTC TouchPro
I am stuck in deciding whether i should get the lg vu or the iphone any suggestions!?!?!
Sandymac5469,
My Pearl doesn’t allow that. I do miss the ‘call announcement’ I had on my LG (from Verizon). If my ear piece was connected it would announce the caller’s name before the phone started to ring and I could give each person a different ring tone and/or have them record their voice and that would be the annoucement. It was cool! I don’t know if iphone offers this feature or not. The blackberry will not have these types of bells and whistles because it’s mainly for business and you don’t want that happening in the conference room. lol
HTC Touchpro would kill Iphone.
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518
come on back to the blackberry curve it’s the best phone on the market for text e_mail games pictures making your own ringtones!!!!!etc… the battery is excellent eaisy navigation and backup computer files and the best phone every at putting stuff from your computer to ur phone….the iphone has the touch screen over the blackberry and alot of hype i got a iopd already don’t need another one
I liked your article comparing the devices but you missed the main thing that separates the 2 devices (and a huge divide it is too) being the price tags both in the short and long term. The data for blackberry through T-Mobile (who I work for) will run you $20-$30 depending on whether you want corporate email or not, the Isheep/iPhone data runs at $50-$60 right? Also your phone (8800) is just one of a range of different bb phones out there, 8820 for example, a newer version of your phone. I like the functionality of the blackberry phones and have one purely because I wanted one, having an overpriced ipod with internet is one bandwagon I won’t ever join I’m afraid…..
Touchscreens are also a major pain in the ass. IMHO
Pearl User… to seperate email accounts go into your email app, then hit the menu button left of the trackball. Select options, then general options. Your looking for the last option on that list.
TMOrep – way off on the iphone data plan. $20/month flat rate for the 2g phones and $30 for the 3g
TMOrep, is the HTC Touchpro is going to be offered by TMO exclusively? When?
BlackBerry – one and only!
US is pretty slow in cell phones. Visit asia and russia, and actually pay attention to their phones. Research into their phones and then you’ll realize how outdated we are at the cell phone market.
Avg camera mega pix out here – 2.0. They’re at 3.2. + video.
GPS, 3g? last year’s stuff.
Dual sim cards. Handle two different numbers at once.
BASIC alarm clock. Puhlease..iphone’s alarm clock doesn’t work unless the phone is turned on…
I have to give Apple the credit of the innovation, design, battery life + touch screen. They’re creative and great designers.
On the Blackberry you can set it to have a seperate folder for SMS messages and emails. That’s how I have it set.
Also you can put how many sms messages it goes back so you can see the conversion.
DUH!
learn how to use a blackberry before writing about it
X-rep, you are totally wrong about CDMA and GSM…
I am an RF Engineer and I know this that T-Mobile is better than Sprint and AT&T here in the Bay Area. TMO competes neck-to-neck with Verizon here.
Harrison Lee – no reason to ever turn iphone off. they can’t even tell in planes…
ayaw ko ng bagong iphone, when i bought an iphone, it was broke already it last for me for about 2dyas. because the iphone was fell. kaya hindi ko na nagamit dahil nasira. black berry nalang para malupet.
I think Nokia 98 would kill them all :) haha.. whens it comming out :((((
which is cheaper then T-Mobile or Verizon on unlimited text and phone min, no roam
lg vu or iphone?
LifeWarrior, T-Mo is the best in pricing.
Coverage T-Mo=Verizon
markberry, what are you talking about?
CA. we have to have bluetooth ear piece to drive. Have to make it simple while driving, and we all know we do it. Have to take allot into account if being real.
BB or iPhone, need voice activation in the car. Hands free. Voice me my email and messages. Tell me directioins. I don’t want to have to touch anything or look at anything while driving.
~Smiles~ LW
Albert… I was in Sunnyvale to work in Cupertino, know what company is on Cupertino? Im no longer there, because I am now with BlackBerry. I also went to school with the CEO of T-mobile (Weber State University, look it up) Long story short, I’ve been in the cell phone industry for a while now, but if you are a RF engineer why are you asking me?
Thanks Albert, I am comparing online now..thanks again, and I have heard that both give good connection here in bay area.
I agree with Albert. T-Mobile has the best coverage not only in the Bay Area but Northern California.
i like nokia 5110 than iphone and black berry because it is affordable, easy to use. im selling nokia5110 only $3.55 get one now!
it took me a week ( a hospital stay) to just get the basic function of the BB8310. best week of my life… I love my BB Curve
X-Rep, I was asking you about the features of Iphone and why are you saying that it is better than BB.
My point is, the newtork of T-Mo is better that AT&T. That as an RF Engineer, I know.
Albert… I will concide the point that T-mobile is just as good as Verizon in the bay area, but not very good in downtown San Fran.
My boyfriend and I both have BBs (he has the curve, I have the pearl) and we’ve both experienced MAJOR LAG TIME with the phones. (We’ve had the phones for a little over a year now) When typing long emails/texts, it’s constantly freezing. Often times on BB messenger, messages get sent BACKWARDS… EKIL SIHT!! Does anyone else have this problem with BB’s?? We are both considering switching to iphones.
I have an interesting situation. I have a iphone(personal) and BBpearl(work). Yes I carry 2 cellphones. Both are good phones. They both have good and bad things about them. Both sync with Outlook, both recieve and send email. I can see email better on iphone. BBpearl has instant chat good for work use. If I had to choose on over the other I would choose the iphone. Can manage my email account better on the iphone. All personal choice, that’s way there is such a varied of phones to choose from.
All in 1… for business, I’d pick the BB, but if I was in college or not much involved in the business world, I would pick iphone. The reason is the push email on BB, my phone is never more than 10 feet away from me and email recieved in real time is a must. The iphone will be outstanding in one or more generations and as long as touch screen is not a fad.
on the BB’s you have to set them to turn them off for alittle bet each day to reset. I turn my off from 2am to 3am. Since doing this I haven’t had anymore problems with phone.
LML… send the phone back or reload the OS, software issue.
i was in court today (awaiting a hearing for a stupid traffic violation) and i have the iphone 3g. the guy next to me was on his blackberry…..i wanted to really compare the two phones, so, being nosy, i observed with what he was doing on his bb……his internet was watered down, he could only access the “mobile” sites. his email setup was ok, but the author of this article really doesnt talk about the positives of the iphones mail. his mail was converted to mobile mail. the iphones mail is received as if u were to check an email from a computer. the whole dang thing comes up, pictures included. i have 3 different emails, and i also have a me.com account. i just forward the 3 email accounts to my me.com account, and im ready to go. makes it alot more convenient and way less scattered if u were to have to open up 3 different accounts on ur phone. i really dont feel why the author of this article had to make sure she felt this was an emphasis……..the iphone acts as my laptop…..i really have no reason to bring my laptop to school nemore, besides taking notes (i dont want to see a BB lover talk about how its possible to take notes on a BB….it doesnt work) my iphone does everything for me. i have all of my music and movies on one gorgeous device….i really dont think one button dialing is a neccessity….never once used it on my old phones. thats what i have contacts and history for. favorites is just as good for me. apps are a HUGE plus for the iphone…..no1 should even argue that. the ability for a phone to keep majorly evolving without having to update the hardware is awesome……the people that are hating on the iphone are coming to the reality that RIM will be soon obsolete, just like motorola’s aweful past woes.
does anyone seem to notice that yahoo is awfully bias towards the iphone. the whole week last week all i read on the frontpage was ways to swoo people away from apple and on to a irrelevenat phone such as a instinct or dare…..did microsoft buy out yahoo yet?
My Blackberry 8707 is already a 3G one, so I can enjoy real worldwide roaming (inclusive of Japan and Korea), and it works very well for what I need it for: emails (no HTML, though), contacts, agenda and notes.
The iphone certainly does look nice, and although I won’t reliquishing my “efficient workhorse” (i.e. Blackberry) easily, I found your above comparison very useful.
Going further, I would be interested in a three way comparison between the iPhone2, the Blackberry Bold and the HTC Diamond.
Many thanks,
ppmartin
Other Things Worth Noting, Comparing, and Thinking About (help needed from Blackberry users to allow comparisons to be made):
75% of iPhone owners are very satisfied with their phone purchase, and 55% of Blackberry users are very satisfied their phone purchase according to user surveys. Both well ahead of any competition.
The Google Maps feature built into every iPhone lets you search for nearest restaurant, doctors office, fish market, grocery store, etc. to your position, shows their locations on a map relative to yours, then when you select it you can get directions to it from where you are, and/or automatically phone it. The road maps and satellite photos used for the mapping download swiftly, even on the old 2.5 G phones. Does anyone know if the Blackberry can do this, and, if so, how useful is it with the smaller screens on Blackberries?
How well does the Blackberry handle photo albums, slide (Power Point and Keynote) presentations and demo videos? The iPhone is more than adequate for these kind of things when doing one on one presentations, and, in a pinch, at least serviceable for one on two presentations, but not at all useful if having to make a presentation to a group. Can the Blackberry be used in a business presentation context?
Applications, videos, and music can be downloaded directly to the iPhone over cellular phone connections without use of a computer (although really large files must be downloaded using a WIFI connection). Downloads can all be done with a few finger points. How complicated is it to do this with a Blackberry, and are external computers needed?
The IPhone can sync addresses, E-Mail, Calenders, et. al. with Corporate servers without having to use a 3rd party server. Does Blackberry do this, or does all traffic still have to go through RIM servers in Canada?
Can Blackberries use WiFI networks like iPhones, or are they restricted to cellular phone service?
The virtual keyboard on an iPhone allows the iPhone to switch between different languages/alphabets. How do Blackberries do this? Can you get external keyboards, do you have to change out the keyboard on your machine every time you need to change languages, or do you have to buy a new phone to correspond in a different language? Can you share a single account for the different language phones?
The iPhone has a simple, one finger swipe way to make it “airplane ” safe, but still leave the services running that are not forbidden by FTC regulations. How easy is it do do this for Blackberries?
The AT&T unlimited data plan is $30 per month for the iPhone for individual use, and $45 per month if you will be using MS Exchange servers to push mail, calendars, etc. Text messaging is separate, and costs $5/month for 200 messages, $15/month for 1500 messages, and $20/month for unlimited messages. What are the comparable figures for Blackberry data plans?
The IPhone can download data and handle a telephone conversation simultaneously, and can run applications while a phone call is in progress. Can the Blackberry do this?
The Iphone can easily set up a 3 way conference telephone call, or allow you to have two connections open and separate at once (you have to keep putting them on and off hold while talking if you do not merge the calls into a conference call). How many calls can a Blackberry take at once, how many lines can it use in a conference call, and how easy/difficult is it to make a conference call on a Blackberry?
With the Iphone you cannot connect to E-Trade and that makes the IPhone worthless to me.
Etrade says the Iphone has security
issues and their account would not be secure.
Reading through many of the post it is
obvious that we have shareholders pumping AAPL stock .
JCM…Google maps is the same for both phones.
Iphone better for documents, unless you use Google Docs.
Apps, video, music and all the stuff is the same for both phones
Corp servers sync the same as iphone and BB enterprise service never went through Waterloo. Thats why its call a corp server or enterprise, cause it goes through private corp servers.
Some BlackBerry models have WiFi just the same.
On BlackBerrys there are ways to change languages with a two button key stroke.
BlackBerrys have a icon that turns radio off on the home screen.
Both phone can do calls and data, but they both need wifi on and cell signal.
I dont know about plans.
so how are you gonna use all your data services,sms, mms, im, voice, when your network has no reception or bad reception or drop calls all the time, and how much to replace the iphone if lost or stolen or got wet or broke it????????
verizon, the most reliable network
Check out TopTenreviews.com they do pretty good reviewing phones.
What advantage will you get if you have an Iphone but the network is AT&T which is not the best. Verizon is better or T-Mobile.
jbodz – I agree with you about the negative articles on Yahooo…I also I thought it was all one sited negative and in some cases untrue.
Thanks for the sample of what the market is thinking. Night
Jhodz and Robert, just to let you know. I got this link from Yahoo which is VERY positive on Iphone’s side.
You can’t compare the iPhone to the BB 8800. It should be compared to the Bold or the Thunder. Can’t wait to get my hands on one of those.
I guess thats her point of view and Maybe the new iphone “rocks” but for me I’ll still stick to my blackerry. BLACKBERRY ROCKS!
um if i had to choose between a blackberry and an iphone, id stick with the BB instead because the iphone is new n itz gonna have a lotta problems….n i dunno wat else…well, i have to say, htc is commin up and samsung omnia is gonna dominate ihpone. itz already out in singapore all it has to do is pass the u.s fcc standards and the u.s 3g band.
X rep,
Do you know how Blackberry handles multiple simultaneous calls and conference calls?
If the Blackberry icon turns all the radio off, how do you get the Wi-Fi on on planes that offer it?.
Do you know where is Blackberry app store(s), music store(s), and video stores are, so someone can look at availability and cost? Do you use a web browser to access these stores, or does Blackberry have an application that lets you browse and shop? (iPhone uses its own version of ITunes for this purpose)
Is it true that E-Mail on Blackberries has to be reformatted from how it was sent like one of the commentators says? What if the mail was formatted in HTML? If it can’t read HTL E-mail these days. isn’t that kind of a deal breaker on a box that is supposed to primarily be for E-Mail? (I despise HTML formatted e-mail myself, but more and more people are sending it in business correspondence).
On language switching, how do you now which character is what, especially when dealing with Chinese and Japanese and Eastern European alphabets?
I think what it comes down to pay for the phone and dont get locked into a plan because there is alot of cool stuff coming with school season and xmas ahead.
Allnotin1 – is you read the one of more other comments above, it states this article was a good one, the ones before the 3G rollout…not so much.
this is for judi,
trust me i know how you feel..i too was tricked by the darkside and the sith lord apple made me abandon my trusty blackberry and soon after i regreted it because the features of the iphone( older one 8gb) is attractive but only for awhile..the slide function is cool and the wiggly thingy too..internet experiance no doubt is superior..but cmon? can you REALLY REALLY believe that a blackberry is disposable if compared to an iphone?…i agree with DAVE HAMILTON..blackberry email abilities and esp. after the soon to launch bb bold..its jsut as sleek and classy as an iphone if not better..and function wise its going to be an iphone killer…use the force judi…leave the darkside..may the force be with you!!
Heres what I think:
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DareToTouch: I bet you work in a Verizon Wireless store or call center and will be there for the rest of you life.
Tyler: Looks like the $25 prepaid phone is what you have. Why are you even participating in this discussion??
Blah: What?? Razr?? The Razr was the worst phone that I ever had. The speaker was crappy….it always had some kinna static noise in it. The Camera sucked. And somehow dust settled inside the display sreens. And its not even a smart-phone….why are you talking about it here??
Albert: You are right about one thing. I love my iPhone and would never swap it for a regular blackberry. But the HTC Touchpro is the only smart phone that I’d consider getting rid of my iPhone for. I totally hope they have the HTC Touchpro on the AT&T network because its simply the best.
Stephanie M: Are you a seventy year old grandma?? Because touchscreens are awesome and is the way of the future.
Etienne: Someone on this discussion board said something about having an open mind. You definately dont have one.
LML: Looks like you guys have been using the BB for a long time now and you did not like it too much. I’ve never had that problem with the iPhone so you know which phone will work best for your needs.
Margaret: You Rock!!!
Jason: You sound like a nerd who is on a computer all day in the basement of his moms house calling himself “WARLOCK”. Get out and get a life dude.
All_in_1 and DareToTouch: You guys definately work for Verizon. I have worked on jobs all over California and in towns and cities on the eastern side of California, my work phone (Verizon phone) hardly ever had any reception where as my personal ATT phone had all the reception in the world.
Nick: the line you wrote…why dont you write it down somewhere and store it in a safe and open it twenty years from now…you will realize then, that 20 years ago you were such a stuck up dumbass
Erik: you rock!!!
tvbman: Have you ever had 2 phones at the same time from 2 different providers?? I used to have 2 phones on me all the time for almost 4 years now. A verizon phone given to me for work and a personal phone with ATT/Cingular. As part of my job, I had to travel to all different cities and towns California wide. I know first hand that Verizon network is only good in major cities and thats about it because in all of them other cities and towns theres barely any reception. But my ATT phone was always able to give me atleast one or two bars…enough to make a call or text.
Brad: it takes 10 minutes just to open the damn box and get to the iPhone…maybe you couldnt figure out how to turn the iPhone on…I guess its a little beyond you.
Robert: you Rock!!!
wes: Do you still drive a car from the 70′s because it has less things under the hood, on the dash, in the center console…so its easier for you to figure out whats what…so you always wind your windows up and down manually becuase the extra button for power windows may confuse the hell outta you. Dude its 2008…seriously.
I think the Black Berry’s are awesome, especially for business. But most of the people arguing on this site are NO business people but some bunch of losers who are iPhone haters and have nothing better to do then to pretend to be someone elso and write a bunch of bullshit. Blackberry is good where it is and iPhone is good where it is. iPhone is just starting out so right now it may not be the absolute best phone out there but very soon it will take over…everyone knows that so why argue. Dont hate, appreciate. I cancelled my ATT service and the iPhone is sitting in the closet gathering dust because of financial hardship. I just use my company phone which is like an old motorolla v710 from Verizon…it does the job which is makes and recieves calls wherever it has reception…isnt that what a cell phone is supposed to do??? So why do we need the BB’s or the iPhones again???
IPHONE RULES! PERIOD!
Comparing iPhone with the 8000 series Blackberries is a mug’s game. I saw both the presentation at the RIM AGM last night and then had a demonstration of the Bold. To use the physics terms RIM’s Co-CEO Mike Lazardis likes to reference – the half-life of the iPhone in the business and prosumer market just went down an order of magnitude. I can confirm the Boy Genius review where he talks about the display as:
“We said this before, but this really is the screen to beat. It might be a little too “contrasty” at times, if you know what we mean, but overall, it steals the show. It is the most vibrant, color-rich, sharp screen we’ve ever seen on a mobile device. It can be extremely bright if that’s how you like it, or subtlety lower.”
It is absolutely stunning; watched a Star Wars segment and an auto racing trailer. Then I saw how they use this display with Office documents – again, a new world of how Blackberry will handle these.
And, then, there’s the Clock with “bedside” mode; you have to see it to understand it. But now you can sleep with your Blackberry at bedside and have some neat features.
Finally, they talked about the browser. Suffice to say you can flick your thumb and get “zoom”, all without leaving oil from your thumb on the display.
Be patient!
I was swaying between the iphone and a blackberry. I decided to stay with tmobile and upgrade to a new blackberry curve. I love this phone and this article just confirms my decision. Thanks for being honest and putting it all out there.
:)
I would love to get an iPhone but the price is just sooo steep. I’m not quite sure it’s worth it.
How do you sync the “public calendar” and “public contacts” on a small office MS Exchange Server setup.
The iphone sucks!!!!!! That’s for fake people who have nothing else to do!!
Seriously people, you really need to take a look at the Samsung Instinct! And please do not make a comment about Sprint because EVERYONE knows that it is a faster network than AT&T or Verizon, it’s not one of those things you can argue about. The plan is cheaper, ($99.99 for the Simply Everything Plan that has UNLIMITED talk, text and data!), compare that to almost $150 for the same features on AT&T. Check the reviews from the techs at MSN, Yahoo and CNET. It has all the features and capabilities of the iPhone and then some. It’s not as bulky as the iPhone, it’s less expensive, ($129.99), and it comes with a case, stereo headset for listening to music, ANND, not only can you replace the battery yourself, it comes with TWO batteries right in the box! What other manufacturer/carrier offers that????
I have a 8100 and will get an iphone3g. BB for work, iphone for personal stuff. Each has its strengths so I’ll use both.
I love my Blackberry 8800. I have been a Blackberry user for the last 4 years, so don’t hate me when I say this. The problem I have with the Blackberry is the server itself. I use mine primarily for email and efax use, I really don’t like the faact that .pdf files are unreadable (is that a word?). If there is anyway to make these files readable like Word files are please let me know. I have considered moving to the iPhone for this purpose only.
I find it funny how many people vehemently hate the iPhone. I mean, it’s a phone! It’s for some people, and it’s not for others. I bought one, and I haven’t told anyone else to do the same. Get what you want! I might tell you about some cool features, but no phone is going to have everything that every other phone in the world does. Maybe I should invent one?
Jake
NoteScribe: Premier Note Software
what is the most thing would u want in this world?
(hehe got that line from pirates of the caribbean) :D
I hate to throw a wrench in all this, but what about the INSTINCT, by Sprint. I have friends with Blackberries and they are happy with them. Don’t have much personal experience with the Iphone, but the INSTINCT, impressive.
I bought a BB 3 day’s before the IPhone came out. The sales rep said I would be back to buy the IPhone when it comes out Friday. I went to the AT&T store ,checked it out, and walked out with my BB. I am happy I did. The IPhone is nice if you want to download music etc. If I want to listen to music I will turm my radio on or rent a movie. Don’t get me wrong but I think the Iphone is for the younger generation
i Want sumthin thas goodd for chatting and Maybe web/youtube/facebook….
Nokia E71 RULES!
Very honest review.
Thanks!
PS. Switch back! :)
You know… It just amuses me that people even bother comparing the Blackberry to the iPhone.
You can’t compare it idiots. Learn to deal with that fact that your blackberry is an emailing device PERIOD.
It’s just simply AMAZING that you guys are STILL comparing these devices?? HAHA!
Have any of you guys seen the homescreen on the BB Thunder? or the web browser??
IT’S A JOKE!. Come on people are you all really that stupid?? or just blatent haters.
I don’t know about you but when i go to a Dance, i’m going to get on the Dance floor and have fun. I’m not going to stand over in the corner of the room and talk bad about/joke about the dancers.
iPhone owners are the people dancing.
So get out on the dance floor, or GTFO
~Computermilk
P.S. OH yeah, and my contacts App works at 100% speed. Don’t know what your problem is. either that or the reviewer is just making his problems up.
This whole iPhone/Blackberry debate is as foolish as Mac/PC debates. It all comes down to preference.
I have an iPhone for personal use and my company has provided me with a Blackberry Curve for work. I prefer the iPhone by a long shot. I dread using the Blackberry. But the keyword here is “prefer”. Use what works best for you. Don’t use an iPhone because it is cool. Use it because it makes you productive and you enjoy using it. It is that simple.
An interesting article!
I look after a mixture of 13 windows mobile devices for 13 grumpy users (previously BB users) and was curious enough to upgrade a newly purchased ipod touch to v2 last weekend for R&D as it will do just about everything the iphone does without the phone connection, i am fudging it by using a WLAN connection
Connecting to my exchange server was easy, had email, contacts, calendar within 5 mins!
Viewing word, excel, pdf attachments is brilliant with the zoom ability the only thing i didn’t like was that you can’t lock the headers in excel, therefore navigating large spreadsheets is a bit of a pain
Reading email, docs etc is really easy on the eye
(MS where is Office for the Iphone?)
It would be really neat if apps like safari and the office/pdf viewer responded to the motion detectors, tilt back to scroll back up, tilt forward to scroll down and return in opposite direction to stop etc. Games use this why can’t safari, viewers etc
Logging into my Windows servers over WLAN/VNC or using logmein is cool but I am struggling with “right click” options
Dare I say it for remotely controlling a desktop, server etc fingers and thumbs are sometimes a bit too big
I have been showing the touch around the office this week, everyone wants an Iphone
I’m loving the switch from my 8300 Curve to the iPhone.
One BIG drawback for me is the fact that phone #’s and URL’s in Calendar appointments aren’t clickable at all. So for conference calls, you have to remember the phone # to dial in.
And no copy/paste :(
I had every blackberry but I kept selling them 10 minutes after unboxing because they were CRAP. Now I use pen and paper it can do everything blackberries do but much better! Plus it’s cheaper. Electronic devices are for kids. Real business people carry pen and paper, an abacus, a world atlas and a grammophone player all wrapped up in a big card box. Ask any serious businesspeople.
@ Scott- Copy and paste will be soon.. it’s inevitable… it’s coming
@Boo Boo- LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Brian- I agree with you it is a matter of preference, but to speak on that i would say it’s more a matter of being a PROFILED device. Blackberry’s are for Jobs and Email and that’s it. If you want, Awesome Texting, Communication, Cool Apps. Awesome navigation with Google Maps. Photos. Web surfing the WHOLE SHIBANG then the iphone is for you. I have a blackberry for work. It says hooked to my belt. But i use it for work. I never think of using it for anything else otherwise.
Thanks for the review, Judi. I agree with most of what you said, except for some of the knocks, but each to his/her own. I like being able to pick up where I left off as when I’m in the middle of reading an email and get interrupted. I can finish the email exactly where I left off when I return. I can easily manage my iPhone with one hand (yes I’m male and my hands are probably bigger than yours) and it’s dead easy to lock it before putting it in my pocket by pressing the button at the top. I don’t quite understand your comments around phone shortcuts, the favorites section works pretty well, (I never could remember what phone numbers were assigned to more than 3 buttons anyway, now I can actually read the names).
I carry both a BB (bc I have to) and an iPhone (bc I want to). For those of you making comparisons, a few mins in the ATT store will not suffice. I started with an iPhone (bought in December) and was given the BB 6 months ago, so the whole chiclet keyboard thing was new. I hate it. I often mis-strike the keys (I have fat thumbs) and the auto correct didn’t help often enough. I find the virtual keyboard on the iPhone easier to type on; I don’t have to punch the keys as on a BB and even with my fat thumbs I make very few if any typo’s; the auto-correct really does work. I’ve typed multi page emails with the iPhone and even if auto-correct doesn’t catch a typo, the ability to easily go back and correct any errors it didn’t catch by simply using my finger to place the cursor where I need to make the change is a real time saver. Some proper names, acronyms, etc. won’t have auto-correct selections.
The one thing longtime BB users will have difficulty with is texting shorthand, until you figure out you can simply turn off the auto-correct selection by pressing the suggestion on the screen. There are no features of my BB that make it better than my iPhone, save cut and paste. This is one where it could make a measurable impact on my experience with the iPhone. But even without it, it doesn’t make enough of a difference for me to ditch my iPhone. Here in central Florida Verizon’s service is crappy, so I’ve actually had to use my personal phone to complete business conversations when my Vz BB couldn’t keep a connection. The battery on my BB doesn’t last as long as my iPhone; I barely get a day on my BB and have had to put it on charger near the end of some days while I was talking, never had to do that with my iPhone with similar use. Also the voice quality is better on my iPhone than my Vz BB, both receiving and sending. Don’t know if that’s due to Vz or my BB, though.
The new iPhone provides GPS (with the very easy to use Google maps, awesome), ability to view MS Office files (even ppt) and pdf’s and provides an easier way to zoom the image so my mid-40′s eyes can see the text. The new App Store is amazing and provides a way to simply expand the capability of your phone without all those pesky monthly charges that most mobile app owners want you to pay, heck some of the apps are free!
The superior web browsing can’t be praised enough. I don’t understand the posts that claim BB browsing is better. The builtin BB browser is complete, and utter crap, get MobileOpera. But even it is crap compared to MobileSafari. It’s easier to scroll and zoom and the web pages show up as they should be. Some websites are even publishing iPhone only versions of their sites, which reduces the clutter of the PC version (why can’t all websites just use the mobile version for the PC experience, they’re easier to read?). The one thing you’ll notice if you visit a lot of video sites, is the lack of support for flash video. I personally hate flash video and don’t miss it, but some people apparently like it. If your phone supports it and you use it, beware the drain on your battery. iPhone has a builtin Youtube client, so you’ll be able to see most Youtube videos (they’re in the process of converting from flash to H.264, the video format iPod/Phone support.)
As for email, I have 5 different accounts I track and find the iPhone works for me. While it doesn’t lump all messages in one giant queue, you can easily switch between the different accounts. I know some people really like one queue for all emails, but some of my accounts get more spam and only one is dedicated to close friends and I always check it first. I don’t want to have to wade through all the spam to get to the important messages. One thing my BB does that I hate is listing all system messages (phone calls, vmails, SMS, email) in one queue, where the iPhone gives you an individual indicator in each app icon to tell you how many texts, phone calls, emails you have and I can choose which to deal with first. There are 2 different places I’ve got to select in order to make all the notifications go away for a specific message type, why?
Speaking of selecting, I absolutely hate the stupid little scroll ball!! The side scroller was easier. It’s either too sensitive or not sensitive enough and it depends on how slowly or quickly I scroll it. I’ve played with the sensitivity selection, buried in the device’s settings, but to no avail. If I have to scroll to the bottom of a message, etc. then that’s fine, but trying to select one option in a dialog box is more like a video game, “don’t push too hard or I’ll fall off the cliff instead of positioning for the jump on the floating platform”.
In 2005, BB was a boon to on-the-go professionals; they could keep up with the office in near real-time, there was no comparison in the field of mobile devices of the time. But what came with the BB was the overly complicated menus and setup. It seems some people equate lots of buttons and massive menu choices with small print with being “business oriented”. I am in sales and have a job to do and could care less about all the behind the scenes mechanics, I just want it to work; iPhone is easier, hands down, for me to get my job done.
But there are times when I’m tired at the end of the day, waiting in the airport, etc. and need to veg. The iPhone has video’s I can watch, music I can listen to or games I can play. The BB experience here sucks. Yeah, you can put music on it, but the whole way you do that is cumbersome. Getting pictures on and off is also cumbersome. I can’t watch movies on my BB (not talking about via web). Games? Brickbreaker? Give ME a break.
If you don’t currently own a BB, you will most likely be happier with an iPhone, unless you have to live by some IT wonk’s rules and they give you a BB. If you have to buy a BB, don’t get a Pearl, what a waste. Suretype sucks, a lot. The screen is too small for any type of browsing.
If you have a BB and carry an iPod and don’t have to live by an IT wonk’s rule, consider an iPhone. One device less to carry.
Excellent article, but I doubt that many of the iPhone haters posting have ever touched an iPhone for more than five minutes if at all. I retired my Blackberry last year and haven’t looked back. The iPhone is a incredible device. A computer in the palm of your hand.
It’s not perfect, but it’s definitely better than the current Blackberry line.
All this talk of which is “better” is really pointless. People have different likes and dislikes, and need/want different things from their phone. I know plenty of people with ancient flip phones that they are happy with. That said, just do your research and get the phone that works best for you.
I just switched from a T-Mobile BB Pearl 8100 to the 3G iPhone. Your review is great, and I just thought I would add some additional things that I’ve noticed.
I think that if you’re a hardcore BB user, frequently traveling and relying on your phone to help you get work done, you are probably going to want to stick with your BB until/unless Apple adds more “enterprise” features into the iPhone software. Here are some important missing features:
- On my pearl, whenever a phone number appeared ANYWHERE (web, email, text, etc.), I could select it and tell the phone to dial it. This does not happen on the iPhone. I’ve gotten emails and texts that said “call me at this number,” and all you can do is memorize the number or write it down and the go dial it.
- The lack of cut and paste is also a problem for the above reason. However, even if cut and paste was there, I’m not sure the phone dialer is set up to have numbers pasted into it (my BB could do this) – we’ll have to wait and see.
- The two above issues are especially annoying when it comes to having to join conference calls that require you to call a phone number and then enter some kind of PIN
- I use Outlook on the PC. There are MANY things lacking in this department:
1. The big one – no Notes or Tasks syncing (really sucks for me, but I’m hoping a 3rd party app shows up soon to address this; there are good apps that can handle notes and tasks on the phone/web, but none that sync between my phone and my Outlook)
2. Outlook contact categories do not sync to the phone; I just have one long group of contacts
3. Outlook calendar event categories do not sync to the phone
4. Free/Busy/Out of Office does not sync to the phone
5. 99% of my calendar events seem to show up as meeting requests on the phone, meaning they have the “Accept/Maybe/Decline” buttons on them, even Birthday reminders. Not a problem, but annoying.
6. You can’t create & send meeting requests from the phone.
6. I read that if you want to use color coding on your events, then you need to maintain separate calendars in outlook and sync them all into the phone, then each calendar will have a different color.
– There are no “hot keys” on the sides of the iPhone that you can assign functions to, so when I want to do things like turn Bluetooth or 3G on/off I have to do a lot of tapping.
- The zooming feature is nice, but I find it doesn’t lend itself well to reading long bits of text. In some areas you have to zoom in a lot to get the text size readable, but then you’ve got to constantly scroll around to read the text because it doesn’t wrap the text into the screen.
Sorry Blackberry — no Super Monkey Ball. You lose!
– Loving my iPhone for over a year.
My husband has turned our household into Mac lovers! It stared with an ipod, then he purchased a desk top and then he turned me on to the ways of the MacBook! I had no problems switching from a PC to a Mac once I understood all the pluses for my business.
Now that the new iPhones are here, I am having a very hard time deciding if my BB is where I need to stay or if the iPhone, too, is where I need to be?!?
I’m a Realtor, so I live in my car. I can do anything on my BB with one hand, I can hook it up to my Mac to hope on line and pull properties for clients on the spot or write a contract right in the house we are at. The tethering ability is what I am afraid of loosing. My husband has read a couple different things that say the iPhone will NOT support tethering, but when I asked a rep at the app store they told me I would be fine.
Can anyone who currently has an iphone give me your thoughts on the tethering abilities or lack there of?
Thank you.
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RV says: July 15th, 2008 6:32pm
Whatever happened to the good old days when you had to use your brains instead of a computer. No wonder we are turning into a generation of geeks.
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Probably the same thing that happened to buggy whip manufacturers, Grandpa.
Seriously. What part of your brain allowed you to see listings for every movie playing in a 10 mile radius from your home? Where in the hippocampus was email from different accounts stored? Devices like the BlackBerry and the iPhone allow smart people to work smarter, and not so smart people to access information in real time.
I am using a 2G Iphone(16G). Can anybody help with this: If I press the headphone button once; music playing does not pause. If I press the headphone botton twice rapidly, next music does not get selected as it suppose to be.
I agree – I miss the one-key speed dials. However, for iPhone speed dialing there is an easier way – create a favorite for each of your important numbers. Then, when you want to call, double-click the home button on the iPhone and it will bring up your favorites. Then you have one “click” to dial one of the favorites.
That’s the default setting for double-clicking the Home button – you can reconfigure it for other stuff in Settings.
Had an iphone, threw it away. Its totally unusable for serious business use.
As always, another device for kids with brain damage and trend slaves. So I’m back to my old faithful BB Pearl.
Most of the pluses of the iphone in comparison to a BB should be solved with the new OS and the Thunder (and in some ways the Bold). You might kick yourself for not waiting. I am an avid Apple fan and the iPhone looks tempting, but being stuck with ATT service and not as good email service doesn’t seem worth it just yet. I’ll stick with my BB for now.
@Melissa, according to Gizmodo and iPhone Atlas, iPhone 3G does not have tethering, cf. http://gizmodo.com/5016464/no-tethering-for-iphone-3g
I use tethering with my Blackberry Curve now, love having that feature available when I need it.
Erik IS right, rim’s stock isn’t doing too well..
But for me, I’ll stick with a sprint phone with better service than AT&T, and keep my ipod touch for everything other than a phone that the iphone has to offer.
It has been interesting for me, as I went from a Pearl, to the first generation iPhone, and then when I left my iPhone out in the rain one day, I decided to go with the BB Curve instead of the 3G iPhone. I love the Curve…. it just WORKS. I do miss a couple things on the iPhone (namely, Google Reader) but I’m glad to have something that does email well and is reliable. At first I was just trialing the Curve for 30 days or so until the iPhone’s are more available, but I think I might keep it!!!
Everyone is missing the biggest point! It’s the BES (Blackberry Enterprise Server). If your orgnization has one, then nothing will beat the Blackberry’s capabilities. It’s what allows the Blackberry to integrate into the corporate infrastructure securely. It’s more than just email, eventhough it does everything from allowing you to read, reply, delete, file, etc… mail messages and create, accept, deny meeting invitations – I’ve used it in an Exchange and Lotus Notes environment and I believe it exists for Groupwise as well. If you want to develop custom applications, you can develop client/server apps or web based apps which work securely with back-end servers because the BES provides MDS (Mobile Data Service) which makes the Blackberry part of the corporate infrastructure (behind the firewall) from anywhere. It’s orange book FIPS certified and it provides the transport that makes the device part of the enterprise. The exchange push garbage can’t hold a candle and it turns out that in my environment, we need to purchase a new server to enable it for the two users that had to have a new toy – I guess they’ll be out of luck.
going from blackberry from iphone would feel like going from iPods to the radio.
thank you so much for this article!! i too am one of many BB lovers that got the iphone in july! i have to say the iphone is a truly kick ass phone. awesome web browser.. the apps are fun! its all fun.. but all the points you make helped reinforce my decision.. im selling the iphone.. ANYONE WANT A WELLKPET IPHONE 3G?? i am looking now to buy a used blackberry for AT&T since i sold my old one to my roommate.. another reason not having the BB tortures me.. i watch my roommate loving the phone and now my boyfriend just got the curve so i’m more than jealous that we cant BB message eachother.. DAHH!! I MISS YOU BLACKBERRY CURVE!!!!
99% of my iPod use is in the gym. I’m wary of carrying my phone there, both because it might get damaged and because I don’t really want to be interrupted.
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